ley me get this straight, i agirl came up to you in the street and said she knows a girl that (basically is a whore) and she gets 10% ? very strange.

mate to be honest with you, do what i did, find a girl on the net that you like the look of like the sound of, ring her and rxplain to her its your first time, if you think shes really nice on the phone, go and see her for 2 - 3 hours (forget the cost)

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Anyway, the young girl didn't say she knows a woman that would fuck me but that she's able to get one for me.

Of course you're right, I would want at least 2 hours even if I came after 2 minutes. I'll probably risk it and eat her pussy, too, maybe I won't have any more sex afterwards, anyway. But somehow I can't ask even a prostitute for sex... I'm way too shy and too afraid of it all. So I'll see what happens... if that young lady pulled my leg it won't kill me, and otherwise I could be the one who paid a 14 year old kid for arranging a date with a prostitute. Nothing to boast about of course but I couldn't care less even if I tried. For losing virginity I'd swallow my pride.

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you know, since i saw that 1 girl in February, ive seen her twice more and one for an overnight + dinner which she cooked by her own hands!
I also see another girl, i've seen her twice too.
it's great fun! but hard on your pocket!

The person I chose, her own website was very good, it had details and details which describes her exatly, and there are pictures of her face and body (clothed of course) and i thought she was beatiful! a person that i liked the look of and a description to make me say, shes the one..

I would suggest looking around for "Escort" in your local area or near. find one with a GFE and don't worry about the cost

good luck to you

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I also thought about advertising in a sex magazine. It'd be free for me but those who want to get to know me would have to pay to get my address. That could put quite a bit of pressure on me. But somehow I think there is no easy way to get sex. I'm just so very afraid because I have not much more to give than trying to hold back from cumming until at least she got rid of her clothes...

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I only went to a whore two times in my life, and both of the times I was pretty horny, but the whole atmosphere of the place and the dull professionalism of the girl herself were such a big turn-off for me that I didn't even properly get it up.

Vincent, the problems you have with women seem to be pretty close to the ones I have, and all I can say is that it just didn't do it for me.

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From all I read about your way of thinking Vincent, I would suggest you to travel somewhere far from your village and your homecountry to where it is just common to offer the tourist sexual services. This would place you in a much more relaxed position, making it more easy to just say yes and take the service as it is: a service. The price level in such a place would also allow you to just accept the service of another girl if the first time did not meet your expectations or you feel like you want more. And if you are lucky the situation is unclear up to that extent that you just give away gifts to the girl(s), hanging out with her, socializing with her friends, feeling even you help her/them overcome material hardship.

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I just ran a search on Adult Friend Finder, and there have been more than 100 women between the ages of 30 and 40 looking for men in Switzerland in the past week. I feel sure that some of them would love the idea of taking on a younger man for his first time. Take a look - you can search the database for free, you only have to join the site if you want to read the detailed profiles or contact someone.

If you join a site, then put a nice picture of your face on your profile, make sure you tell them you like cunnilingus, and I bet you will get all the attention you ever wanted.

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Too bad I can't see her face but I really love what you can see of the way she smiles, and her body, of course.
Yeah, I know she's young but little Vince-in-the-pants doesn't seem to be able to care less.
With condom only doesn't sound that good at first sight but I think it's very good. It would be stupid marketing to write that if there were exceptions to that rule. Or in other words, it seems to be safe to eat her pussy.

Now please don't expect too much... maybe I'm still The Fucking Virgin at the end of the year. It's just that the odds for that scenario declined a little.

Girls don't like it when the wind blows. After all it's their job.

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i must ask u before u decide on her, what age is she? and does she offer Girl Friend Experience.?

i think that becuase its your first time, she looks, how can i put it ? too young? not right?

not trying to put you of at all, my first was perfect. she offeres GFE and shes beautifull, i still see her even now

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ShiWarrior, she is very young, 18 only. I really hope she does GFE, 2 hour service and of course that the address is not anywere in the jungle since I don't drive. But on the other hand taxi cabs aren't that expensive anymore if we put it in relation.
I didn't phone yet but I'll take a look at her a few times this weekend and hope lust will overcome fear.

Girls don't like it when the wind blows. After all it's their job.

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I fear that she is inexperienced, at 18 in our country is the age your allowed to start.

personally mate, i would find somebody at least 25 that offeres GFE, THEN you WILL have a good time, and it will be very pleaseurable experience, i just don't want you to pay that hard earned money on somebody that will run..

just my 2pence worth though.

good luck in what ever u decide to do

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If you ask me it would be far better to pay for a couple of lap dances at a strip club (I find these girls generally work very hard for their pay to turn you on) and then go home and whack off to a fantasy that you just had sex with the stripper. Works every time for me!

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VVG, if you just go do it, then it will be all over with. It doesn't have to be this big, scary deal in your mind, and it doesn't matter if it doesn't turn out perfect. 16 year olds do it. 90 year olds do it. Ducks do it. It only takes a minute.

Look what a great time ShiWarrior had.

If it's not perfect, it will be like a million other first times (and proms, and weddings, etc.). If you wait for perfect...

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I did a lot of searching for the right one before i phoned any one, once i found this particular one, i had an instinct that she was "the one" and i was right. after seeing her 4 or 5 times now, i feel as if i have known her all my life, i have even spent dinner with her on 2 occasions, and one was a stay at her place. her Escorting business is just that, she escorts for the discreet and concerning Gentleman (the upper class businesman) rather than pure sex.

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Based on everything I've learned about you over the past months, I sincerely believe you want the real GFE, not a simulated one.

I hope you will take licker's advice and take a few months to consider real girlfriends. I just know that somewhere in Switzerland are compatible girls, just looking for a guy like you!

We all know how much you desire to worship at the altar of pussy. Well eating a prostitute is a horrible idea. Meanwhile, there are some lonely girls just wishing they had a nice, sincere guy who would give their kitty some TLC.

Take my advice or leave it, but it is from my heart.

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VVG, do you really think you need to put the brakes on and be a little more cautious? Or do you think it's time to throw caution to the wind and put yourself out there?

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Opposing viewpoints, Vince. Trouble is they're all correct, IMHO.

It's obvious you would prefer going down on a girl with whom you had an emotional connection. Who wouldn't?
But you say you've given up trying to find love. I can sympathise, as I've given up on that front too.

There is also the one night stand to consider. While it's not love, at least you have a common goal in trying to get both yourself and your partner off.
You might find that more fulfilling than the business transaction scenario with a prostitute.
Of course one night stands are not necessarily that easy to come by either. And I'd say the dating pool doesn't exactly expand when you close in on the big 30.

What then?
The thing with a prostitute in your case is that frankly the prospect of going down on a pussy you know has most likely had quite a few other male visitors in the preceding hours is, no matter how conscientious she is about cleanliness, not too appealing (not to me anyway).
Should you get past that, there's another problem with it that IMHO is even harder to overcome: No matter how nice the actual act of cunnilingus is for you, if it does absolutely nothing for her, will it be enough for you?

Perhaps it might be worth to consider taking the prostitute route in two stages.
Go for your first time simply with the express purpose of getting your rocks off, and have her do all the work of getting you there, that's her end of the business deal.
That way you won't have any worries about measuring up to any expectations you imagine she might have. Just be clean and treat her with respect.

Having finally 'done it', you might then automatically relax enough to be able to put yourself out there for real, and not have to see a prostitute again.

One thing more:
If you do go see a prostitute, make sure she's a Swiss citizen. If she doesn't look ethnic Swiss, at least her speech should be flawless.
That way you'll stand a better chance of finding a woman who has that job because she likes the pay and the hours, not because she's desperate or forced into it. I don't think you'd like the idea of wondering whether you'd helped finance some of those bastards who deal in the trafficking of women.

Yet another thing:
I took a look at the site you linked to, and the pictures of Maryline are actually of Sophie Moone (aka Sophie Sweet).
I know my trackrecord at Walter's Mystery Babes isn't too remarkable, but trust me, that is Sophie.
Whether she actually escorts at that place or they run a bait-and-switch operation, I don't know. But they state her age as 20, which is definitely one lie already.

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Those sites, you can never really trust. There are so many people out there trying to make a quick buck they will try to lure anyone in. It seems that site is using fake pictures.
What happens if you finally arrage a meeting with a girl from one of the many sites and it ends up being some prostitution ring sting? That would suck hardcore.

I can't give too many words of advice. But the dont give up on love statemnt holds true for me. Only recently did I find love at the age of 28. Yes yes, I was a virgin until that age. I had given up on love as well. I was too busy, too broke and too bitter to even bother looking for it anymore.

Then along came this one girl, who I was not even expecting to fall in love with much less her with me.

It happens. People get lucky.
Save your money, wait a little longer....you never know.
I understand your urge...beleive me. I cruised many a site like that. I would wait.

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I have a lot of friends who didn't even meet their husbands until they were in their mid-thirties to early forties.

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I do agree that it's not a healthy road to take, and it does harden you in some unfortunate ways.
Garth Brooks (yeah a country singer, so sue me ) put it uncomfortably well in 'Standing Outside The Fire'.

But some habits are not easily unlearnt. Change is not impossible, nor even inconceivable, in my case.
It is however unlikely. And together with that, giving up makes for a selffulfilling prophecy if ever there was one.

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Since when does girlfriend/boyfriend=love? I have five ex-boyfriends, all dear to my heart in one way or another, but I didn't love any of them. It was like+lust, not the same thing at all, and it's why they are my ex -boyfriends.

My advice to Vincent that going down on a prostitute is a horrible idea is very sound. Tell me where I'm wrong on this.

My plea to Kperv not to give up on love had nothing to do with sex.

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Like I said in the post I did not read all 6 pages of this thread, but knew a few people were saying wait for love and I was by no means singling you out. But w all due respect, Why do you say the following and I dont think you're the only one in thread who did.

<< My advice to Vincent that going down on a prostitute is a horrible idea is very sound. Tell me where I'm wrong on this. >>

Please switch the word prostitute to PORN STAR in your above statement. Need I say more? OK, I will. :)
Ivory, if you were to say this about a porn star you would probably be warned by a moderator on ADT or maybe more. We all know that about 90% of porn stars are escorts on the side. So let us ponder ... we all know porn stars are more safe than girls at a club you meet or at Mc Donald's for that matter, due to the excessive testing they endure. Most prostitutes who are not porn stars as well are tested almost as much as porn stars. Though, due to them using condoms all the time its not even necessary, but prostitutes are into VERY safe sex. It is their job. There are exceptions, but I just didn't think VVG would be looking for a drug user on the street. I would rather go down on most prostitutes than a girl I met at a club and great chance you know she hasn't been tested for a LONG time. Typically, prostitutes always smell like roses and are clean shaven, so do your own investigating before diving in. You can take a flashlight to a prostitute before going down. And not all prostitutes are seeing as many guys per day as y'all would like to imagine -- not if VVG goes for a higher end girl. BONUS: she'll teach him how to do it right so he can be more confidant with his real girlfriend that may be in the wings. :)

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Well, you raise some interesting points about the relative safety of performing oral sex on prostitutes. Maybe you're right.

I still think it's a bad idea, though. Certainly a better idea than doing it to a girl you pick up in a club, I will definitely agree with that!

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The Girl i first saw, and still see, does EVERYTHING with a condom

Tit fuck, blow job, intercorse

she won't Kiss but she will let you go down on her, which i found bizzar

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Thank you all for your advice! I couldn't have done it without your support anyway, and somehow I hoped you all tell me I should do it so I'll have another reason to do it (not to disappoint you). Thank you all for being honest, no matter what you told me.
I'm quite depressed now and lost interest because I don't want to give my money to a company that uses fake pics. I saw that girl and wanted that girl, and now I think I'll forget about the idea again. But thanks for telling me. I prefer being depressed my whole life anytime if that's necessary to keep me from self-deception.

I absolutely can't "pick up a girl". If she's reluctant first I immediately get depressed and feel ashamed I even considered myself worthy to talk to her. I'm absolutely not a hunter, in fact there's not much on earth I loathe more than this hunting concept and the girls having to make us suffer first even if they're interested from the start. I just have not the self-confidence to believe she could be interested despite her reaction. Sometimes it even makes me hate women. You know that love/hate thing some say is going on in everyone who likes porn. Hate having to say that, love being allowed to.

I definitely gave up the real love thing. It's one of the most horrible things I can imagine (except going to war, maybe) to be with a girl when not have any self-confidence at all, and it hurts me to no ends to see that I disappoint her. When that chat friend from Germany visited me after we knew each other for three years and had a deep friendship, I could stand it for three days, and the rest of the time was pure hell. You know, sitting there face to face for four daytimes and no one speaking a word. I wasn't able to carry on with the friendship afterwards, I couldn't live with the shame and pain of her knowing the real me.
It seems I was made for wanting a great relationship with deep love, making a girl happy and all as my main goal in life, but I wasn't made to be able to get that. No, I was made to have a great career as a manager or CEO. But I will not because that's absolutely nothing I consider desirable.
My life is fucked up anyway, I just want to have sex one single time before I die at least, so I won't experience the greatest honour that ever happened to me at my funeral when I don't notice it anymore. And for me having sex with a woman is a great honour regardless who she is or whether you have to pay for it. When you had sex with a woman you know your life was not completely fucked up. Of course I can be wrong on that, I don't know how you feel afterwards. Well, maybe someday I'll be able to accept not getting that last thing, either. I'm just not old enough for that yet.

I stop it now before it starts looking like I'm fishing for compassion or trying to drag you down. Well, bad news, guess I already fucked that up. New try: I stop it now only about 30 lines after it started looking like I'm fishing for compassion or trying to drag you down. Believe me, if that was my goal I could easily have written ten times as much.

At least I guess I'll get quoted more often if I can maintain a certain status that makes me special and keep an eye open for all those many virginities to lose and mock at every day. (Today, I lost my watching-"Alien-vs-Predator" virginity. Not exactly my first choice but a friend brought it with him, so it was there and we watched it. Yeah, I'm a movie slut.)

Girls don't like it when the wind blows. After all it's their job.

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http://www.bordellos.ch/salons/prostitution.html

Then I clicked on "Salons Bern" because that's nearest to where I live. There I found the link to Studio LadyStar in Ostermundigen and then the girl.

Cuntry loads, shake my bone, screw my face, ride my dong, Breast Virginia

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Hey mate, don't worry about it.

Just keep looking, you will find another escort and when u find one u like, come and ask us about her, we'll make sure it's a non-faker before you make the call.

I'm a bit like you really, but I haven't given up on love/relationships, I just haven't met any girls yet, one will come along one day but I have always wanted sex since I was 16 really, and when I got to 27, I decided to ask people on this web site and then I found out That I don’t have to goto SOHO one late night to find a prostitute,. All I had to do was look for an established "Escort Agency" then I was on the right track. I didn’t realise how good escorts are compared to prostitutes.

So @ 27 I gave up and decided to just pay for it, why? because I was desperate, I was desperate to try sex for my self, it's something I wanted to do before I started getting old, I wanted to do it whilst I was young. Now that I have finally done it I feel much much better about myself. It gave me more of an open mind about life, and I'm proud of it.

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I'm afraid I can't afford an escort, though. I found a company with girls that escort, but for less than about 500$ these girls won't even turn up. I don't want to think about what spending two hours with them, sex included, will cost. And then it's absolutely impossible to bring that girl home with my family and all, so I'll have to pay for a hotel room, too. I would gladly pay that for having sex but not if I don't know whether I'll ever find a job. (Maybe I'll find a way government will pay me for shutting the fuck up what I think about them...)

Cuntry loads, shake my bone, screw my face, ride my dong, Breast Virginia

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Captain 69. This place confirms and reviews escorts. There are links to women who work independent or with agencies. It's only the basic info, but if you sign up you'll get a plethora of info that will help you find the right girl.

Once you enter, click "Rest of World" at the left-hand side of the page, then scroll down to "Switzerland". There are PLENTY of fine choices here.

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also http://www.punternet.com/index1.html
but thats UK one too, but m sure they do "International"

where abouts are you ? i'll have a look for my self if u dont mind?

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