are parodies dead?

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hollywood woody Senior Member Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07	Posted - May 8 2012 : 7:23PM I have to say that a good movie will always sell. But I am pretty sure the parody train has pulled out of the station. The extreme comixxx stuff does well because it appeals to a wider audience. I would love to know what you want to see. There has to be the next step in adult. I believe adult movies are very much like fashion. What is in today, is out tomorrow. Then the cycle starts again. I would say that original scripted features are making their comeback. Original music that adds too the movie, not distracts. Hot newcomers as well as some proven winners is a good bet. I know gonzo will sell, but it has flooded the market. What direction would you like to see the industry go in? What would you do to make a gonzo movie better than the rest? I recently directed Super Porn, I choose the top girls in the business. We put them in one movie. We shot interviews. Do you guys dig the interviews? We shot solos too. Do you want that as bonus material? Let me know what you think. If you have favorite stars tell me who they are and what you want to see them doing. Keep it legal. [Link]
stinkfist Senior Member Subterfuge...... 7401 Posts 4/07	Posted - May 8 2012 : 7:40PM hollywood woody wrote: What would you do to make a gonzo movie better than the rest? Click to expand I would put all the wacky ideas (normal to me lol) that i have into "my movie" if i was the Director,i would not follow a "formula" and would like the viewer to enjoy the sex but also be talking about other things that he/she seen in the movie.Would it sell,im not so sure but it would be different and if i could break even then i would make another movie and hopefully win over more "fans". It would be big on visuals,i would want the viewer to go on a mindfuck while watching the movie and to keep watching for the "what is coming next" scenarios and of course for the sex..i would want more than just sex in my movie. Sleep safe Directors,stinkfist is not ready/qualified to take his place in bed amongst you,yet.lol [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - May 8 2012 : 7:45PM stinkfist wrote: i would not follow a "formula" and would like the viewer to enjoy the sex but also be talking about other things that he/she seen in the movie. Click to expand This. [Link]
picman Senior Member Nothing says I love you so much as a tongue in the ass. 2884 Posts 1/03	Posted - May 8 2012 : 8:03PM Has anybody considered doing features without the formulaic sex that they all seem to follow? You know the drill: b/g, b/b/g, b/g/g/, g/g, and an anal scene. All running for roughly a half hour and using all the common positions, with a narrative that takes up about 15 minutes, tops. Making a blue movie where the sex fits the plot and runs as long or as short as would make sense under the circumstances. I suspect that the motivation for such a thing diminished when porn moved completely out of the movie theaters and into the privacy of people's homes, but it might be worth it to rejuvenate the genre, and without the lackluster, safe sex that's also prevalent. It can be rough at times. Even dirty. As long as it fits a coherent plot and taps into realistic emotions. Just a thought. [Link]
Pentasa Deactivated User 233 Posts 9/08	Posted - May 13 2012 : 2:49AM Are parodies DEAD? They better be. I hate parodies. [Link]

angryassdrummer Member 559 Posts 3/11	Posted - May 13 2012 : 4:16AM hope so [Link]
Strongbad Senior Member 1481 Posts 5/07	Posted - May 13 2012 : 6:20AM Well, I never really liked them but as there is a new xxx parody movie with smurfs, with a blue Lexi Belle! I feel that they are running out of ideas [Link]
Cuddly Wombat Senior Member Just another bare bum in the shiower 1739 Posts 12/04	Posted - May 13 2012 : 6:46AM Probably - as soon as I get that Lexi Belle Buffy parody I will be fully sated on the parody front. What I would like to see is some high production value movies based on some famous erotic novels, like Fanny Hill or the Story of O. I would also like to see some features based on new original scripts. I really feel that the playful romantic comedy genre has been strangely absent in porn since the early 80s, but I see some glimmer of hope here in some of the various romance lines by adult companies that have popped up in the past 12 months. I love behind the scenes interviews. I don't care much for solo scenes, and in fact the whole "pretty girl" jiggling and dancing around before her scene gets really boring after a while. If you are gonna do that, have her in a strip club up on stage dancing to some kick-ass rock track in front of a dozen guys or so. A gonzo series set in a strip club would be a winner with me. At the moment my favorites are Allie Haze, Capri Anderson, Lexi Belle, Samantha Saint, Dani Daniels, Brooklyn Lee, Tracey Sweet, April O'Neil, Sally Charles and Chanel Preston. Anything with these girls in it I will buy - except solo, lol. Oh, I would still like to get a parody of Ice Road Truckers - that would be cool. Edited by - cuddly wombat on 5/13/2012 6:48:34 AM [Link]
tintintin Senior Member 1230 Posts 8/07	Posted - May 13 2012 : 7:39AM Are parodies dead?: I hope so Never understood the popularity. Ever laughed while wanking? [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - May 13 2012 : 8:52AM Cuddly Wombat wrote: What I would like to see is some high production value movies based on some famous erotic novels, like Fanny Hill or the Story of O. Click to expand While I don't think I would want to see faithful adaptations of these two (I don't think that would be possible, actually), there have been a lot of adaptations of Story of O over the years. Not sure how high budget you're looking for, but there are some classy ones out there. I would also like to see some features based on new original scripts. I really feel that the playful romantic comedy genre has been strangely absent in porn since the early 80s... Click to expand Stormy Daniels made a lot of great rom-coms. Original scripts too. [Link]
T0MBOne Senior Member 1200 Posts 5/08	Posted - May 13 2012 : 10:07AM Most of the gonzo stuff is like paint-by-numbers; stick a girl here maybe there, start with a tease and blow job, hit all the straight sex positions and maybe an anal, oh, and have at least 5 gals on the disc. Finding ways to tie the 5 scene gonzo structure together (for example, the structure of a classic French film like La Ronde that's also used in a flick called Chain of Desire should work) would satisfy some of us. The good news is that you could accomplish it without having to do much in terms of screen writing and without expecting too much from the performers in terms of actual acting. It's something that I would do to set my product apart from gonzo without going so far as to make an actual feature. Good luck. [Link]
hollywood woody Senior Member Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07	Posted - May 15 2012 : 1:21PM These are great suggestions. I believe the original scripted movie is going to be making a big comeback. I love the idea to break out of the formula, and explore new avenues. I have a big announcement coming soon that I think will make all of you very happy. Especially the ones that want to see something a little different. I love the strip club suggestion too. Thank you all. [Link]
Peoples Temple Member People tell lies my friend. Some people like publicity. I don't like publicity. 674 Posts 5/11	Posted - May 15 2012 : 2:03PM I sure will not miss them if they are dead. I have yet to see any parody that I can say I enjoyed, eventually I just stopped watching any new release parody. IMO it was a gimmick. [Link]
T0MBOne Senior Member 1200 Posts 5/08	Posted - May 15 2012 : 9:28PM I've been bitching about the Wicked features (and others) for quite awhile. Use the DVD format to your advantage by 1) making a good feature that's 75 minutes to 90 minutes with integrated sex scenes then 2) using sex footage not used in the feature make what amounts to a wall-to-wall sex thing that would satisfy the gonzo crowd. Screw the usual b-s extras unless you can find room for them---tb Edited by - T0MBOne on 5/15/2012 9:28:49 PM [Link]
Draxxx Senior Member 3831 Posts 2/07	Posted - May 15 2012 : 10:28PM Even though I'm not that big on parodies I'm in no hurry to see them go and don't understand why some people dislike them so. For people who enjoy features I don't see parodies as being so different than a feature other than it being an established property. In my eyes parodies and features are both stories with sex scenes added. I'm glad that parodies gave porn and porn sales a boost during it's hard times. The hatred for parodies is just another lame excuse for the mentality of "I don't like this so it shouldn't exist" that so many people have. What's the next big thing? I'm pretty sure it'll be something mindless and incredibly dumb like things we've already seen like...anal prolapse, the guy putting his foot on the girl's head while' he's doing her, spitting on women, slapping women, or something else that lacks creativity or artistic vision. At least the parody stuff gave writers stuff to write, gave directors more chances to actually direct a story, and gave the pornstars the chance to act and dress up. There's plenty of stuff that could make porn better but I'm pretty sure the next "big thing" will very disapointing for most people. [Link]

Peoples Temple Member People tell lies my friend. Some people like publicity. I don't like publicity. 674 Posts 5/11	Posted - May 15 2012 : 10:47PM Draxxx wrote: Even though I'm not that big on parodies I'm in no hurry to see them go and don't understand why some people dislike them so. Click to expand Speaking for myself only, I view adult content solely for the sex and find everything else as secondary. The sex in all the parodies I have seen is lethargic, mechanical, passionless, and lacking any authentic enthusiasm from the performers. If performers truly do not care about being there on the set, it shows, the director can't manipulate it to make it appealing. The concept of the Parody is fine with me, the quality of the content in the parody themes has been awful. [Link]
Herzog Deactivated User 245 Posts 2/12	Posted - May 15 2012 : 10:52PM Next big thing will be a return to porn theatres. With Mardi Gras nights like they used to have in Detroit and New York. The porn stars circulate in the audience giving HJ and BJ while their movies play on the big screen. Nerds get autographs. The whole joint stinks like pussy and sweat. Staring at a computer is boring as hell. [Link]
paulwolf Member 374 Posts 3/12	Posted - May 16 2012 : 2:21AM It seems to be all lexi Belle does these days... [Link]
LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05	Posted - May 16 2012 : 3:23AM Not exactly a big fan of parodies , but I watch them although I rather prefer a featured movie over a parody. The point is different though , the main point of a featured movie is to put a story or a general plot to justify the sex in there or at least a reason to put sex scene without forcing them out of place or to give them a strog emotion or reason , for example a best man fucking the bride in her very wedding day. The purpose of a parody is different it is not to create some sort of story , although some very good parodies do it very well , the main point is to put very well known and loved characters in a sexual situation you won't see Spiderman XXX for the story you see it to see Spiderman fucking MJ Watson , or to see Flash Thompson who fucks all spidey girls while he crawling walls the whole night. that is the purpose anyway as already said don't like don't buy , there are many things I don't like in porn especially female mistreatment but that'a me , I just don't buy such movies. Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 5/16/2012 3:27:52 AM [Link]
Draxxx Senior Member 3831 Posts 2/07	Posted - May 16 2012 : 8:27AM Peoples Temple wrote: Speaking for myself only, I view adult content solely for the sex and find everything else as secondary. The sex in all the parodies I have seen is lethargic, mechanical, passionless, and lacking any authentic enthusiasm from the performers. If performers truly do not care about being there on the set, it shows, the director can't manipulate it to make it appealing. The concept of the Parody is fine with me, the quality of the content in the parody themes has been awful. Click to expand Oh, I totally agree. The sex scenes in most of the parodies I've seen has been very generic and machanical. I've seen a couple where the sex was exciting but those were done by studios that usually do better sex scenes. That's why I say I don't see a major difference between a parody and a feature in terms of what they have to offer. Features from VIVID for example are about as equally unexciting as their parodies. At least the parodies have a stronger hook. The parodies that I thought were better sex-wise were done by studios that generally do "better" (sex scenes I like better) scenes in general. For example I thought BATFXXX from BLUEBIRD FILMS was far better than VIVID's BATMAN parody because I like the sex scenes from BLUEBIRD more than I like the stuff from VIVID. Clearly, parodies have an audience but that audience doesn't seem to include many Gonzo fans. But that totally makes sense because Gonzo shoots for a different type of sex and audience. [Link]
Draxxx Senior Member 3831 Posts 2/07	Posted - May 16 2012 : 8:37AM Laurie Cameron Fan wrote: Not exactly a big fan of parodies , but I watch them although I rather prefer a featured movie over a parody. The point is different though , the main point of a featured movie is to put a story or a general plot to justify the sex in there or at least a reason to put sex scene without forcing them out of place or to give them a strog emotion or reason , for example a best man fucking the bride in her very wedding day. The purpose of a parody is different it is not to create some sort of story , although some very good parodies do it very well , the main point is to put very well known and loved characters in a sexual situation you won't see Spiderman XXX for the story you see it to see Spiderman fucking MJ Watson , or to see Flash Thompson who fucks all spidey girls while he crawling walls the whole night. Click to expand Realistically, parodies should be a story because most of the time the concept they're doing a parody of tell stories. Just having characters have sex doesn't really work because in so many of the parodies I've seen the characters stop being in character the second the sex starts. So you would just end up with people in costumes or dressed like a character having sex with no reason or motivation behind it. That does happen sometimes but I consider it badly done parody. [Link]
BigFerret creampie scientist Searching for blonde and red bush 1985 Posts 10/02	Posted - May 16 2012 : 10:35AM hollywood woody wrote: These are great suggestions. I believe the original scripted movie is going to be making a big comeback. Click to expand I sincerely hope that is the case, Woody. [Link]
T0MBOne Senior Member 1200 Posts 5/08	Posted - May 16 2012 : 2:10PM Until then, these xxx parodies remind me of this artist trying to sell a crappy version of the Mona Lisa with her boob exposed. No one wants it at the $134 reduced price. No one should want most of the few parodies that I've reviewed. tb [Link]
stinkfist Senior Member Subterfuge...... 7401 Posts 4/07	Posted - May 16 2012 : 10:02PM Vivid are bringing out She-Hulk? [Link]
Harry Buddha Palm Member 51 Posts 3/09	Posted - May 17 2012 : 3:31AM Porn parodies have been around as long as porn has been around, but one of the problems with this modern rash of parodies is that there was no creativity in them. In the old days, they did not just copy the movie they were parodying note for note and shoehorn some sex scenes in them. They took the idea and gave it a comical twist with a funny name. These days, they do not even come up with funny pun names anymore. They just stick A Porn Parody in the title and that is that. There is no creativity or humor, well, not much anyway. The other main problem is the fact that every single movie and TV show ever made got parodied whether it was warranted or not. Doing a porn parody of Batman makes sense. Who doesnt want to see Batgirl and Catwoman get fucked? The Brady Bunch also makes sense. Even when I was a kid, I figured a house full of boys and girls that arent related must have all kinds of action going on when the lights went out. But Seinfeld? The Office? The fucking Simpsons? Who the hell wanted to see Homer banging Marge? I mean, someone made a fucking porn parody of American Chopper. A show about a bunch of dudes that make motorcycles. If it was on TV, they made a porn parody of it. Its stupid. What makes a good parody is creativity, story, humor, sex appeal, and hot costumes. The reason why the comic book shit does better is because the girls look hot in the costumes (usually). The same with pirates. The Pirates movies were kinda shitty, but the girls looked hot in the costumes. Having characters that everyone wants to bang is also a plus. Everyone wanted to bang Daisy Duke and Princess Leia. I never heard anyone ever say they wanted to see Kramer fucking. [Link]

T0MBOne Senior Member 1200 Posts 5/08	Posted - May 17 2012 : 6:37AM ^ or Smurfs. [Link]
Draxxx Senior Member 3831 Posts 2/07	Posted - May 17 2012 : 8:33AM Harry Buddha Palm wrote: Porn parodies have been around as long as porn has been around, but one of the problems with this modern rash of parodies is that there was no creativity in them. In the old days, they did not just copy the movie they were parodying note for note and shoehorn some sex scenes in them. They took the idea and gave it a comical twist with a funny name. These days, they do not even come up with funny pun names anymore. They just stick A Porn Parody in the title and that is that. There is no creativity or humor, well, not much anyway. Click to expand I don't know if I agree with that. I think one extreme isn't really any better than the other. In the old days porn parodies would take the name or title of a show or movie and give it a funny sexual take on the title and the movie usually wouldn't have much to do with the actual movie/tv show it was making fun of. I'm pretty such viewers back then wished they'd actually made a movie that more closely ressembled the thing they were parodying. And the sex in those movies weren't really any different the sex in any other porn movie. These days some companies work very hard to make the movie look and feel like the thing they're parodying. What tends to happen these days is they often they follow the thing they are parodying too close and it often lacks a sexual vibe until suddenly it's time for a sex scene and a very generic out of character sex scene just seems to be dropped in the movie. It just doesn't work or flow like it should. What you end up with is a bunch of people doing an often lame impression and then BAM!..here's some sex. Both ways of doing parodies leave much to be desired. But at least the new parodies often make the effort to get the parodies accurate. How good the actual sex just depends on the company the parody is made at. The stuff from VIVID has typical VIVID style sex scenes. The stuff from ADAM & EVE has typical A&E sex. If a viewer isn't into the type of sex those companies ususally do it's silly to think that you're to see something different from their parodies. My personal thinking is the stories should have much more of a sexual slant and the characters should stay in character during the sex. I don't care if the sex is more vanilla I just think that if the performer is playing Gilligan from GILLIGAN'S ISLAND he shouldn't be having sex like the porn dude playing him. I don't want a story about something that has nothing to do with sex and all of a sudden the characters have sex I want the story to supply the reason they're having sex. The other main problem is the fact that every single movie and TV show ever made got parodied whether it was warranted or not. Doing a porn parody of Batman makes sense. Who doesnt want to see Batgirl and Catwoman get fucked? The Brady Bunch also makes sense. Even when I was a kid, I figured a house full of boys and girls that arent related must have all kinds of action going on when the lights went out. But Seinfeld? The Office? The fucking Simpsons? Who the hell wanted to see Homer banging Marge? I mean, someone made a fucking porn parody of American Chopper. A show about a bunch of dudes that make motorcycles. If it was on TV, they made a porn parody of it. Its stupid. What makes a good parody is creativity, story, humor, sex appeal, and hot costumes. The reason why the comic book shit does better is because the girls look hot in the costumes (usually). The same with pirates. The Pirates movies were kinda shitty, but the girls looked hot in the costumes. Having characters that everyone wants to bang is also a plus. Everyone wanted to bang Daisy Duke and Princess Leia. I never heard anyone ever say they wanted to see Kramer fucking. Click to expand That's why I think having a more sexual story is important. Yeah, some shows lend themselves better for a porn parody but I think almost any show/movie can work if the right story is there. [Link]
the-end Member 35 Posts 2/12	Posted - May 18 2012 : 8:47AM I've been doing a study of porn parodies and I've found out this: There are 4 types of porn parodies. 1. Movies not connected to the original work at all, except for the title and perhaps cover art. (Example: America's Next Top Model - A XXX Porn Parody) 2. Movies taking some details from the original work but not doing anything else with it (Example: the 80's Friday the 13th porn movies) 3. Movies that use the wholeness of the original work. They don't have to contain the same characters and plot but the overall tone is taken from the original and it's solid from the beginning to the end (Example: Miami Spice from the 80s) 4. Movies that copy the original work as much as possible (Example: Some movies from the new wave of porn parodies, such as Seinfeld) It's too bad, though, that most of the type 4 parodies are doing it fine in the non-porn parts but when the porn starts, the whole movie seems to change into a different one. The actors get out of their characters and the camera starts to do it's own thing. The movies are shot like the originals but as soon as sex starts, the camera goes handheld and starts to shake and gets to odd angles. It completely takes away everything that was putting the viewers towards seeing a sex fantasy of their favourite movie or tv show. Plus, these new movies are bound to the conventions of modern porn. I know it's not popular nowadays to have a bush down there but in some parodies which are trying to present us a world in the 60's or 70's it's just too much of an era clash when everything else seems to depict the 70's but the women have silicones and both men and women don't have pubic hair. [Link]
InFamous Deactivated User 1051 Posts 2/12	Posted - May 18 2012 : 11:51AM There are less parody coming out this year, Zero Tolerance is no longer making parodies. Whatever happen to the Hangover parody that they shoot two years ago? Edited by - InFamous on 5/18/2012 11:53:05 AM [Link]
Quorrl Senior Member 2835 Posts 3/11	Posted - May 18 2012 : 5:40PM InFamous wrote: There are less parody coming out this year, Zero Tolerance is no longer making parodies. Whatever happen to the Hangover parody that they shoot two years ago? Click to expand Since this week, it's listed for an August 2012 release here on ADT and on TLARaw... [Link]
draghixafan Senior Member Less identical crap, more sleaze and bush! 2378 Posts 7/09	Posted - May 18 2012 : 7:02PM hollywood woody wrote: I have to say that a good movie will always sell. But I am pretty sure the parody train has pulled out of the station. The extreme comixxx stuff does well because it appeals to a wider audience. Q. Are parodies dead? A. Its not helped by poor parodies.. Hulk and Wonder Woman were 2 I was looking forward too, but both have only a single scene with the character at the end, and whereas the Hulk character was very well done Tori Black was the wrong choice for Wonder Woman and her costume was rubbish. Q. I would love to know what you want to see. A. SLEAZE! The one thing missing today from the golden age is the sleaze. Bring back BJs with girls lovingly worshipping cock not getting skull-fucked, bring back scenes in different locations and partially clothed not setup scene then all clothes off and on the bed/couch, bring back full bodied natural girls and BUSH!!, bring back genuine sex not jack-hammering, bring back cumshot slo-mos and post facial cock play. Spank-Porn! (I just made that up) Real raincoater stuff eg Jerk-Off Encouragement full movie series. A perfect example is Whitney Stevens in Control #6 she is in a b/g scene but throughout is talking (dirty) to the camera telling you to jerk off, also lots of her doing jerk-off hand motions and finished with her calling you a pervert a demanding you cum on her face. Movies with female narration, of the sex scenes or just a J.O.E voice over or maybe her watching and enjoying the sex scenes so you hearing her get off aswell as the girl in the scene. Q. I would say that original scripted features are making their comeback. A. No more please from the companies whose cast list are full of duck billed plastic boobed emaciated girls and that Fabio lookalike. Q. Original music that adds too the movie, not distracts. A. This is such a CRUCIAL element to an erotic scene that is almost completely ignored today Q. What direction would you like to see the industry go in? A. As others have said lose the formula. Sick of the 5 scene strip/suck/fuck/facial machine. [Link]
InFamous Deactivated User 1051 Posts 2/12	Posted - May 19 2012 : 3:28AM ^^ If you go to TLARaw on the Product Info is said...Marks the return of the legendary Tori Black after a lengthy performing hiatus! Now she did this before she gotten pregnant, I wonder why Zero would finally release it after they no longer shooting parodies now? [Link]
Draxxx Senior Member 3831 Posts 2/07	Posted - May 19 2012 : 3:49AM I don't think parodies are dead or ever going away. The studios that do the better ones will keep making them but only when the subject is right for parody. The studios who tried jumping on the parody bandwagon by just sticking the name of a show/movie on their boxcover while not doing an actual parody or the ones who just did paridies badly will stop doing them because people caught on pretty quickly that those aren't worth buying. We'll see less parodies but the ones that continue will be the better done ones. I can understand people wanting the formulaic type porn porn with the standard positions in the predictible order to go away but it never will. I think most Gonzo fans actually want that type of porn even if they say otherwise. Gonzo fans seem to like watching those positions and are disapointed if they don't get them or get enough of them in a scene. I'm always seeing fans complain "There wasn't enough reverse cowgirl..." or "The blowjob didn't last long...". People have fav positions and want to see them. Meanwhile, most all scenes will continue to start with a bj because that's what it seems is needed to get the guys going. I think features should have the most unpredictible sex...even though they usually don't. Like someone already mentioned, the sex in features should fit the story. In features we should be seeing passionate loving sex, wild over the top sex, angry sex, awkward sex, short scenes, long scenes, sex where the sex has already started before the viewer gets there, sex in one position, etc....One of the things that always seemed funny about feature porn is the scenes of the girl/boy who isn't suppose to have any sexual experience but once the sex starts she/he starts going at it like a pro. I thnk it would be interesting to see awkward sex when the story calls for it. It would be funny to see guys who can't hold out when the story calls for it instead of having every guy be a long lasting dynamo. "Revenge" sex should look angry. How about some sex with people fully dressed? I don't have much problem with Gonzo because it's there to show sex being shot in the best way possible while giving viewers all the positions they like to see. Feature porn often fails for me because the sex is usually less exciting and really predictible and it's sandwiched within a story that they can't get me to really care about. If the sex were more interesting and worked better within the story it would be a much better end result. It's both strange and sad that I find a mainstream movie with no actual sex more exciting and sexy a movie with real sex in it. [Link]
scotscot New Member 2 Posts 5/12	Posted - May 20 2012 : 9:30PM hollywood woody wrote: I have to say that a good movie will always sell. But I am pretty sure the parody train has pulled out of the station. The extreme comixxx stuff does well because it appeals to a wider audience. I would love to know what you want to see. There has to be the next step in adult. I believe adult movies are very much like fashion. What is in today, is out tomorrow. Then the cycle starts again. Keep it legal. Click to expand Hi everyone , Im new here and just a punter !! hopefully this is the right place to post and I dont offend any one. " Holly Wood " In answer to you questions above ...I dont think the parody train has pulled out at all. ( I think its just arriving and now it will evolve ) I think porn in general needs just needs to evolve. You are right a good story is crucial , and thats because porn needs to be in a context. Have a look at www.SHIB.com.forum ( 10 of thousands of members ) Superheroines in peril gives context to the sex. The ideas are endless and makes a dominant Man (SuperMan ) , or woman ( wonder woman ) do things they are not suposed to, or want to do . This genre has grown dramatically over the last 10 years on the web. Girls like Rachel Steel and Christina Carter do a fabulous acting jobs as Wonderwoman , Catwoman and Batgirl being degraded by a Villian , but what they really need is for main streem porn directors to understand it. Every one does standard fully naked Porn. Main stream porn is all the same. Add some forced orgasms,good v evil, make the viewer take sides. A bit of verbal torment and bondage with the Hero Characters we know we would never normally see in these situations ...now thats a turn on. The genre is crying out for professionals like you to take the film making to a higher quality level. The girls can act. And we will buy !!! [Link]
scotscot New Member 2 Posts 5/12	Posted - May 20 2012 : 10:44PM Sorry, folks...one more thing......and have a look at the clips4sale site, they have all sorts of "Genres" being cattered for by amateur film makers because of the demand? And a few suggestive pics that suggest what comes later !! [Link]

wcw43921 Senior Member Look Into My Eyes-- 1252 Posts 4/08	Posted - May 20 2012 : 11:19PM hollywood woody wrote: I would love to know what you want to see. (snip) I would say that original scripted features are making their comeback. Original music that adds too the movie, not distracts. Hot newcomers as well as some proven winners is a good bet. (snip) Let me know what you think. If you have favorite stars tell me who they are and what you want to see them doing. Keep it legal. Click to expand You know what I want to see--women seduced while under Hypnosis. The two movie plots in this post are what I have in mind, and if you need someone to write them (and others like them) for you, well, I Can Do That. Hope that helps. _________________________________________________________________________________ "There can never be too many beautiful women Hypnotized for our pleasure." [Link]
herz Member 47 Posts 9/09	Posted - May 21 2012 : 9:22AM Are parodies dead? I HOPE SO [Link]
jackthetreacleeater Senior Member Shame on you! 2003 Posts 10/06	Posted - May 21 2012 : 1:03PM Lets hope so. I'm waiting for the circus to come back to town. Nothing says romance like anal sex. [Link]
hollywood woody Senior Member Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07	Posted - May 21 2012 : 7:20PM wcw43921 wrote: hollywood woody wrote: I would love to know what you want to see. (snip) I would say that original scripted features are making their comeback. Original music that adds too the movie, not distracts. Hot newcomers as well as some proven winners is a good bet. (snip) Let me know what you think. If you have favorite stars tell me who they are and what you want to see them doing. Keep it legal. Click to expand You know what I want to see--women seduced while under Hypnosis. The two movie plots in this post are what I have in mind, and if you need someone to write them (and others like them) for you, well, I Can Do That. Hope that helps. I actually love that idea. I really need to think about how it could be done. I would like to get a real hypnotist and actually try it for real. _________________________________________________________________________________ "There can never be too many beautiful women Hypnotized for our pleasure." Click to expand [Link]
hollywood woody Senior Member Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07	Posted - May 21 2012 : 7:31PM After reading all these posts I can safely say that parodies are becoming passe. One post disagrees with that, but I disagree with him. I know from sitting on the phone all day the sales are way down on 99% of parodies that come out. Here is what i am going to do. make some movies that completely different from the formula movies you have come to know and hate. We are going to try and bust the mold. We will also keep the girls partially dressed until the end, but they will get fuck with panties pulled to the side etc. The music we will use will be original music that enhances, not distracts. For features we will script our own. We will introduce extremely hot new talent. Look for this on Skow Video. A new company formed by B Skow formerly of Vivid. The reason he left Vivid is so he can break out of the limitations box and get really erotic nasty stuff produced that gets you hard and makes you want to jerk off. It wouldn't be soft and pretty and something your wife wants to watch, it will be hardcore kool. Great camera shots, with girls that are 100% into it. I hope you will enjoy it. I will announce the first title soon. It will blow your load for sure. [Link]
Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14594 Posts 3/02	Posted - May 21 2012 : 8:26PM Late to the thread, so this may be pointless, but here goes, anyway: Parodies are comedies, and comedies live and die on timing. Line up ten porn editors and threaten their lives if they don't put together a movie with great timing and you'll be lucky if you don't end up with ten dead editors. That is how bad timing has become in porn. Of course, "Garbage In" doesn't make their job any easier, but I'm pretty sure the basic problem is somebody approached the scene with a fixed length in mind - FAIL! As to what direction I would like the industry to go in, I think that's the wrong question. What the industry needs isn't somebody who can chase after the consumer. It is somebody who can lead the consumer down a new path to his own vision. Can you say, Stagliano? I knew you could. Of course, it has to be a vision that appeals to people so, Oh God, you're going to have to take risks. Sorry 'bout that. [Link]
tintintin Senior Member 1230 Posts 8/07	Posted - May 22 2012 : 11:32AM hollywood woody wrote:We will also keep the girls partially dressed until the end, but they will get fuck with panties pulled to the side etc. Click to expand Now that's my kind of stuff! And some nasty talking (to eachother) too please ;-)Hopefully no background music, no soft lenses and other artistic bullshit. The girls don't have to be very pretty (model looking).. the most important thing is that they like it and are nasty. And please both total shots and close ups.. I hate only total shots. And please.... ok for the wife but please also a bit nasty. Some saliva sometimes and arses being licked? And please not another Blue Bird company. They have such nice girls with nice outfits but terrible action. And as a last suggestion.. please no large empty warehouses with white walls and one leather couch in the middle Edited by - tintintin on 5/22/2012 5:56:52 PM [Link]
hollywood woody Senior Member Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07	Posted - May 22 2012 : 6:50PM Hardware wrote: Late to the thread, so this may be pointless, but here goes, anyway: Parodies are comedies, and comedies live and die on timing. Line up ten porn editors and threaten their lives if they don't put together a movie with great timing and you'll be lucky if you don't end up with ten dead editors. That is how bad timing has become in porn. Of course, "Garbage In" doesn't make their job any easier, but I'm pretty sure the basic problem is somebody approached the scene with a fixed length in mind - FAIL! As to what direction I would like the industry to go in, I think that's the wrong question. What the industry needs isn't somebody who can chase after the consumer. It is somebody who can lead the consumer down a new path to his own vision. Can you say, Stagliano? I knew you could. Of course, it has to be a vision that appeals to people so, Oh God, you're going to have to take risks. Sorry 'bout that. Click to expand excellent point. I agree. I will pass that on to the directors. Think outside the box. Build it and they will come. [Link]
hollywood woody Senior Member Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07	Posted - May 22 2012 : 6:59PM tintintin wrote: hollywood woody wrote:We will also keep the girls partially dressed until the end, but they will get fuck with panties pulled to the side etc. Click to expand Now that's my kind of stuff! And some nasty talking (to eachother) too please ;-)Hopefully no background music, no soft lenses and other artistic bullshit. The girls don't have to be very pretty (model looking).. the most important thing is that they like it and are nasty. And please both total shots and close ups.. I hate only total shots. And please.... ok for the wife but please also a bit nasty. Some saliva sometimes and arses being licked? And please not another Blue Bird company. They have such nice girls with nice outfits but terrible action. And as a last suggestion.. please no large empty warehouses with white walls and one leather couch in the middle Edited by - tintintin on 5/22/2012 5:56:52 PM Click to expand See I love to see girls get fucked with some clothes on and eventually ripped off. There will not be soft lenses or artistic bullshit. I would prefer to use real looking girls too. To me healthy is the new skinny. I hate seeing a cigarette with tits. Big fake tits are not sexy. Big real tits are. Also the rim job is a lost art that needs to be brought back. We will have profession rim jobbers. All sets will be built or high end houses used. Great action is 100 times better than a nice face and slick costumes. The girls will be 100% into it, in fact I like that for a title. 100% into it. [Link]
mharris127 Senior Member 1844 Posts 8/09	Posted - May 22 2012 : 8:05PM scotscot wrote: Girls like Rachel Steel and Christina Carter do a fabulous acting jobs as Wonderwoman , Catwoman and Batgirl being degraded by a Villian , but what they really need is for main streem porn directors to understand it. Click to expand I have to second Christina Carter. She is hot as hell! If she can be talked into doing a non-kinky scene I think she would be a great choice for almost any movie you do. [Link]
Galento Deactivated User 114 Posts 5/12	Posted - May 22 2012 : 8:23PM hollywood woody wrote: Also the rim job is a lost art that needs to be brought back. We will have profession rim jobbers. Click to expand I have never seen a decent g/g porn rim job in my life. Just poke poke boredom. I spend a lot of money on clips4sale as a result Edited by - galento on 6/1/2012 9:05:12 AM [Link]
jfarley Member 242 Posts 5/09	Posted - May 22 2012 : 10:51PM hollywood woody wrote: It wouldn't be soft and pretty and something your wife wants to watch, it will be hardcore kool. Great camera shots, with girls that are 100% into it. Click to expand Something women don't want to watch, with women 100% into it? Good luck trying to fit that square peg into a round hole. [Link]
wcw43921 Senior Member Look Into My Eyes-- 1252 Posts 4/08	Posted - May 22 2012 : 11:22PM hollywood woody wrote: I hate seeing a cigarette with tits. Big fake tits are not sexy. Big real tits are. Click to expand To my mind that's definitely a YMMV. While big naturals are certainly welcome (Maserati XXX comes immediately to mind) I was always a fan of the 90s big tit queens--Lisa Lipps, Wendy Whoppers, Kimberly Kupps, Tawny Peaks, Zornya Dreams and Patty Plenty, to name a few. I also liked Kitten Natividad's performances. I admit a lot of it depends on how well the augmentation went--I've always said that if you can't tell, why would you care? There are more than a few stars with augmented breasts that are sexy as all hell--Jacky Joy comes to mind, as does Daphne Rosen, and my favorite Taylor Wane. I hope you can find a use for them in these new movies you want to make. _________________________________________________________________________________ "There can never be too many beautiful women Hypnotized for our pleasure." [Link]
tintintin Senior Member 1230 Posts 8/07	Posted - May 23 2012 : 2:52AM Oh MG .. forgot the most important thing..... At least one BGG scene in every film. Only BG and one GG is soooo cheap and common these days. Ultimate but not necessary would be a steamy ggg scene... but now I am drifting away with my naughty thoughts ;-) Does Skow video have a website? Edited by - tintintin on 5/23/2012 6:31:39 AM [Link]
Flash Golden Age Classic 11018 Posts 5/01	Posted - May 23 2012 : 11:30AM Sets and locations are important. If making features, feature actual locations, even for non-sex plotted portions, I know it costs more to do a location, but it makes the movie look far better and more professional. [Link]
hollywood woody Senior Member Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07	Posted - May 23 2012 : 2:12PM jfarley wrote: hollywood woody wrote: It wouldn't be soft and pretty and something your wife wants to watch, it will be hardcore kool. Great camera shots, with girls that are 100% into it. Click to expand Something women don't want to watch, with women 100% into it? Good luck trying to fit that square peg into a round hole. Click to expand Actually we already found it and shot it. There are a certain amount of stars out there that truly enjoy what they do. We used them, and will continue to use them. Maybe I didn't make my point clear. let me rephrase it. We won't be shooting movies with couples in mind. I am sure a lot of couple will enjoy our new movies, women as well, but these are going to be sexually explosive, to get men hard and women horny. [Link]

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Posted - May 8 2012 : 7:23PM

I have to say that a good movie will always sell.
But I am pretty sure the parody train has pulled out of the station. The extreme comixxx stuff does well because it appeals to a wider audience.
I would love to know what you want to see.
There has to be the next step in adult. I believe adult movies are very much like fashion.
What is in today, is out tomorrow. Then the cycle starts again.
I would say that original scripted features are making their comeback.
Original music that adds too the movie, not distracts.
Hot newcomers as well as some proven winners is a good bet.
I know gonzo will sell, but it has flooded the market.
What direction would you like to see the industry go in?
What would you do to make a gonzo movie better than the rest?
I recently directed Super Porn, I choose the top girls in the business. We put them in one movie.
We shot interviews. Do you guys dig the interviews?
We shot solos too. Do you want that as bonus material?
Let me know what you think. If you have favorite stars tell me who they are and what you want to see them doing.
Keep it legal.

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stinkfist
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Posted - May 8 2012 : 7:40PM

I would put all the wacky ideas (normal to me lol) that i have into "my movie" if i was the Director,i would not follow a "formula" and would like the viewer to enjoy the sex but also be talking about other things that he/she seen in the movie.Would it sell,im not so sure but it would be different and if i could break even then i would make another movie and hopefully win over more "fans".
It would be big on visuals,i would want the viewer to go on a mindfuck while watching the movie and to keep watching for the "what is coming next" scenarios and of course for the sex..i would want more than just sex in my movie.
Sleep safe Directors,stinkfist is not ready/qualified to take his place in bed amongst you,yet.lol

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Gore Gore Girl

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Posted - May 8 2012 : 7:45PM

This.

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picman
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Posted - May 8 2012 : 8:03PM

Has anybody considered doing features without the formulaic sex that they all seem to follow? You know the drill: b/g, b/b/g, b/g/g/, g/g, and an anal scene. All running for roughly a half hour and using all the common positions, with a narrative that takes up about 15 minutes, tops. Making a blue movie where the sex fits the plot and runs as long or as short as would make sense under the circumstances. I suspect that the motivation for such a thing diminished when porn moved completely out of the movie theaters and into the privacy of people's homes, but it might be worth it to rejuvenate the genre, and without the lackluster, safe sex that's also prevalent. It can be rough at times. Even dirty. As long as it fits a coherent plot and taps into realistic emotions. Just a thought.

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Pentasa
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Posted - May 13 2012 : 2:49AM

Are parodies DEAD?
They better be. I hate parodies.

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angryassdrummer
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Posted - May 13 2012 : 4:16AM

hope so

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Strongbad
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Posted - May 13 2012 : 6:20AM

Well, I never really liked them but as there is a new
xxx parody movie with smurfs, with a blue Lexi Belle!
I feel that they are running out of ideas

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Cuddly Wombat
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Posted - May 13 2012 : 6:46AM

Probably - as soon as I get that Lexi Belle Buffy parody I will be fully sated on the parody front.
What I would like to see is some high production value movies based on some famous erotic novels, like Fanny Hill or the Story of O. I would also like to see some features based on new original scripts. I really feel that the playful romantic comedy genre has been strangely absent in porn since the early 80s, but I see some glimmer of hope here in some of the various romance lines by adult companies that have popped up in the past 12 months.
I love behind the scenes interviews. I don't care much for solo scenes, and in fact the whole "pretty girl" jiggling and dancing around before her scene gets really boring after a while. If you are gonna do that, have her in a strip club up on stage dancing to some kick-ass rock track in front of a dozen guys or so. A gonzo series set in a strip club would be a winner with me.
At the moment my favorites are Allie Haze, Capri Anderson, Lexi Belle, Samantha Saint, Dani Daniels, Brooklyn Lee, Tracey Sweet, April O'Neil, Sally Charles and Chanel Preston. Anything with these girls in it I will buy - except solo, lol.
Oh, I would still like to get a parody of Ice Road Truckers - that would be cool.

Edited by - cuddly wombat on 5/13/2012 6:48:34 AM

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tintintin
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Posted - May 13 2012 : 7:39AM

Are parodies dead?: I hope so
Never understood the popularity. Ever laughed while wanking?

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Gore Gore Girl

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Posted - May 13 2012 : 8:52AM

While I don't think I would want to see faithful adaptations of these two (I don't think that would be possible, actually), there have been a lot of adaptations of Story of O over the years. Not sure how high budget you're looking for, but there are some classy ones out there.

Stormy Daniels made a lot of great rom-coms. Original scripts too.

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T0MBOne
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Posted - May 13 2012 : 10:07AM

Most of the gonzo stuff is like paint-by-numbers; stick a girl here maybe there, start with a tease and blow job, hit all the straight sex positions and maybe an anal, oh, and have at least 5 gals on the disc. Finding ways to tie the 5 scene gonzo structure together (for example, the structure of a classic French film like La Ronde that's also used in a flick called Chain of Desire should work) would satisfy some of us. The good news is that you could accomplish it without having to do much in terms of screen writing and without expecting too much from the performers in terms of actual acting. It's something that I would do to set my product apart from gonzo without going so far as to make an actual feature. Good luck.

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hollywood woody
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Posted - May 15 2012 : 1:21PM

These are great suggestions. I believe the original scripted movie is going to be making a big comeback.
I love the idea to break out of the formula, and explore new avenues.
I have a big announcement coming soon that I think will make all of you very happy.
Especially the ones that want to see something a little different.
I love the strip club suggestion too. Thank you all.

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Peoples Temple
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Posted - May 15 2012 : 2:03PM

I sure will not miss them if they are dead. I have yet to see any parody that I can say I enjoyed, eventually I just stopped watching any new release parody. IMO it was a gimmick.

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T0MBOne
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Posted - May 15 2012 : 9:28PM

I've been bitching about the Wicked features (and others) for quite awhile. Use the DVD format to your advantage by 1) making a good feature that's 75 minutes to 90 minutes with integrated sex scenes then 2) using sex footage not used in the feature make what amounts to a wall-to-wall sex thing that would satisfy the gonzo crowd. Screw the usual b-s extras unless you can find room for them---tb
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Draxxx
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Posted - May 15 2012 : 10:28PM

Even though I'm not that big on parodies I'm in no hurry to see them go and don't understand why some people dislike them so. For people who enjoy features I don't see parodies as being so different than a feature other than it being an established property. In my eyes parodies and features are both stories with sex scenes added. I'm glad that parodies gave porn and porn sales a boost during it's hard times. The hatred for parodies is just another lame excuse for the mentality of "I don't like this so it shouldn't exist" that so many people have.
What's the next big thing? I'm pretty sure it'll be something mindless and incredibly dumb like things we've already seen like...anal prolapse, the guy putting his foot on the girl's head while' he's doing her, spitting on women, slapping women, or something else that lacks creativity or artistic vision. At least the parody stuff gave writers stuff to write, gave directors more chances to actually direct a story, and gave the pornstars the chance to act and dress up. There's plenty of stuff that could make porn better but I'm pretty sure the next "big thing" will very disapointing for most people.

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Peoples Temple
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Posted - May 15 2012 : 10:47PM

Speaking for myself only, I view adult content solely for the sex and find everything else as secondary. The sex in all the parodies I have seen is lethargic, mechanical, passionless, and lacking any authentic enthusiasm from the performers.
If performers truly do not care about being there on the set, it shows, the director can't manipulate it to make it appealing. The concept of the Parody is fine with me, the quality of the content in the parody themes has been awful.

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Herzog
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Posted - May 15 2012 : 10:52PM

Next big thing will be a return to porn theatres.
With Mardi Gras nights like they used to have in Detroit and New York.
The porn stars circulate in the audience giving HJ and BJ while their movies play on the big screen.
Nerds get autographs. The whole joint stinks like pussy and sweat.
Staring at a computer is boring as hell.

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paulwolf
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Posted - May 16 2012 : 2:21AM

It seems to be all lexi Belle does these days...

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LCF

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Posted - May 16 2012 : 3:23AM

Not exactly a big fan of parodies , but I watch them although I rather prefer a featured movie over a parody.
The point is different though , the main point of a featured movie is to put a story or a general plot to justify the sex in there or at least a reason to put sex scene without forcing them out of place or to give them a strog emotion or reason , for example a best man fucking the bride in her very wedding day.
The purpose of a parody is different it is not to create some sort of story , although some very good parodies do it very well , the main point is to put very well known and loved characters in a sexual situation you won't see Spiderman XXX for the story you see it to see Spiderman fucking MJ Watson , or to see Flash Thompson who fucks all spidey girls while he crawling walls the whole night.
that is the purpose
anyway as already said don't like don't buy , there are many things I don't like in porn especially female mistreatment but that'a me , I just don't buy such movies.
Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 5/16/2012 3:27:52 AM

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Draxxx
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Posted - May 16 2012 : 8:27AM

Oh, I totally agree. The sex scenes in most of the parodies I've seen has been very generic and machanical. I've seen a couple where the sex was exciting but those were done by studios that usually do better sex scenes. That's why I say I don't see a major difference between a parody and a feature in terms of what they have to offer. Features from VIVID for example are about as equally unexciting as their parodies. At least the parodies have a stronger hook.
The parodies that I thought were better sex-wise were done by studios that generally do "better" (sex scenes I like better) scenes in general. For example I thought BATFXXX from BLUEBIRD FILMS was far better than VIVID's BATMAN parody because I like the sex scenes from BLUEBIRD more than I like the stuff from VIVID.
Clearly, parodies have an audience but that audience doesn't seem to include many Gonzo fans. But that totally makes sense because Gonzo shoots for a different type of sex and audience.

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Draxxx
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Posted - May 16 2012 : 8:37AM

Laurie Cameron Fan wrote:
Not exactly a big fan of parodies , but I watch them although I rather prefer a featured movie over a parody.
The point is different though , the main point of a featured movie is to put a story or a general plot to justify the sex in there or at least a reason to put sex scene without forcing them out of place or to give them a strog emotion or reason , for example a best man fucking the bride in her very wedding day.
The purpose of a parody is different it is not to create some sort of story , although some very good parodies do it very well , the main point is to put very well known and loved characters in a sexual situation you won't see Spiderman XXX for the story you see it to see Spiderman fucking MJ Watson , or to see Flash Thompson who fucks all spidey girls while he crawling walls the whole night.
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Realistically, parodies should be a story because most of the time the concept they're doing a parody of tell stories. Just having characters have sex doesn't really work because in so many of the parodies I've seen the characters stop being in character the second the sex starts. So you would just end up with people in costumes or dressed like a character having sex with no reason or motivation behind it. That does happen sometimes but I consider it badly done parody.

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BigFerret
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Posted - May 16 2012 : 10:35AM

I sincerely hope that is the case, Woody.

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T0MBOne
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Posted - May 16 2012 : 2:10PM

Until then, these xxx parodies remind me of this artist trying to sell a crappy version of the Mona Lisa with her boob exposed. No one wants it at the $134 reduced price. No one should want most of the few parodies that I've reviewed.
tb

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stinkfist
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Subterfuge......
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Posted - May 16 2012 : 10:02PM

Vivid are bringing out She-Hulk?

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Harry Buddha Palm
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Posted - May 17 2012 : 3:31AM

Porn parodies have been around as long as porn has been around, but one of the problems with this modern rash of parodies is that there was no creativity in them. In the old days, they did not just copy the movie they were parodying note for note and shoehorn some sex scenes in them. They took the idea and gave it a comical twist with a funny name. These days, they do not even come up with funny pun names anymore. They just stick A Porn Parody in the title and that is that. There is no creativity or humor, well, not much anyway.
The other main problem is the fact that every single movie and TV show ever made got parodied whether it was warranted or not. Doing a porn parody of Batman makes sense. Who doesnt want to see Batgirl and Catwoman get fucked? The Brady Bunch also makes sense. Even when I was a kid, I figured a house full of boys and girls that arent related must have all kinds of action going on when the lights went out. But Seinfeld? The Office? The fucking Simpsons? Who the hell wanted to see Homer banging Marge? I mean, someone made a fucking porn parody of American Chopper. A show about a bunch of dudes that make motorcycles. If it was on TV, they made a porn parody of it. Its stupid.
What makes a good parody is creativity, story, humor, sex appeal, and hot costumes. The reason why the comic book shit does better is because the girls look hot in the costumes (usually). The same with pirates. The Pirates movies were kinda shitty, but the girls looked hot in the costumes. Having characters that everyone wants to bang is also a plus. Everyone wanted to bang Daisy Duke and Princess Leia. I never heard anyone ever say they wanted to see Kramer fucking.

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T0MBOne
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Posted - May 17 2012 : 6:37AM

^ or Smurfs.

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Draxxx
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Posted - May 17 2012 : 8:33AM

I don't know if I agree with that. I think one extreme isn't really any better than the other. In the old days porn parodies would take the name or title of a show or movie and give it a funny sexual take on the title and the movie usually wouldn't have much to do with the actual movie/tv show it was making fun of. I'm pretty such viewers back then wished they'd actually made a movie that more closely ressembled the thing they were parodying. And the sex in those movies weren't really any different the sex in any other porn movie.
These days some companies work very hard to make the movie look and feel like the thing they're parodying. What tends to happen these days is they often they follow the thing they are parodying too close and it often lacks a sexual vibe until suddenly it's time for a sex scene and a very generic out of character sex scene just seems to be dropped in the movie. It just doesn't work or flow like it should. What you end up with is a bunch of people doing an often lame impression and then BAM!..here's some sex.
Both ways of doing parodies leave much to be desired. But at least the new parodies often make the effort to get the parodies accurate. How good the actual sex just depends on the company the parody is made at. The stuff from VIVID has typical VIVID style sex scenes. The stuff from ADAM & EVE has typical A&E sex. If a viewer isn't into the type of sex those companies ususally do it's silly to think that you're to see something different from their parodies.
My personal thinking is the stories should have much more of a sexual slant and the characters should stay in character during the sex. I don't care if the sex is more vanilla I just think that if the performer is playing Gilligan from GILLIGAN'S ISLAND he shouldn't be having sex like the porn dude playing him. I don't want a story about something that has nothing to do with sex and all of a sudden the characters have sex I want the story to supply the reason they're having sex.

The other main problem is the fact that every single movie and TV show ever made got parodied whether it was warranted or not. Doing a porn parody of Batman makes sense. Who doesnt want to see Batgirl and Catwoman get fucked? The Brady Bunch also makes sense. Even when I was a kid, I figured a house full of boys and girls that arent related must have all kinds of action going on when the lights went out. But Seinfeld? The Office? The fucking Simpsons? Who the hell wanted to see Homer banging Marge? I mean, someone made a fucking porn parody of American Chopper. A show about a bunch of dudes that make motorcycles. If it was on TV, they made a porn parody of it. Its stupid.
What makes a good parody is creativity, story, humor, sex appeal, and hot costumes. The reason why the comic book shit does better is because the girls look hot in the costumes (usually). The same with pirates. The Pirates movies were kinda shitty, but the girls looked hot in the costumes. Having characters that everyone wants to bang is also a plus. Everyone wanted to bang Daisy Duke and Princess Leia. I never heard anyone ever say they wanted to see Kramer fucking.
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That's why I think having a more sexual story is important. Yeah, some shows lend themselves better for a porn parody but I think almost any show/movie can work if the right story is there.

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Posted - May 18 2012 : 8:47AM

I've been doing a study of porn parodies and I've found out this:
There are 4 types of porn parodies.
1. Movies not connected to the original work at all, except for the title and perhaps cover art. (Example: America's Next Top Model - A XXX Porn Parody)
2. Movies taking some details from the original work but not doing anything else with it (Example: the 80's Friday the 13th porn movies)
3. Movies that use the wholeness of the original work. They don't have to contain the same characters and plot but the overall tone is taken from the original and it's solid from the beginning to the end (Example: Miami Spice from the 80s)
4. Movies that copy the original work as much as possible (Example: Some movies from the new wave of porn parodies, such as Seinfeld)
It's too bad, though, that most of the type 4 parodies are doing it fine in the non-porn parts but when the porn starts, the whole movie seems to change into a different one. The actors get out of their characters and the camera starts to do it's own thing. The movies are shot like the originals but as soon as sex starts, the camera goes handheld and starts to shake and gets to odd angles. It completely takes away everything that was putting the viewers towards seeing a sex fantasy of their favourite movie or tv show.
Plus, these new movies are bound to the conventions of modern porn. I know it's not popular nowadays to have a bush down there but in some parodies which are trying to present us a world in the 60's or 70's it's just too much of an era clash when everything else seems to depict the 70's but the women have silicones and both men and women don't have pubic hair.

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InFamous
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Posted - May 18 2012 : 11:51AM

There are less parody coming out this year, Zero Tolerance is no longer making parodies. Whatever happen to the Hangover parody that they shoot two years ago?
Edited by - InFamous on 5/18/2012 11:53:05 AM

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Quorrl
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Posted - May 18 2012 : 5:40PM

Since this week, it's listed for an August 2012 release here on ADT and on TLARaw...

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draghixafan
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Less identical crap, more sleaze and bush!
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Posted - May 18 2012 : 7:02PM

hollywood woody wrote:
I have to say that a good movie will always sell.
But I am pretty sure the parody train has pulled out of the station. The extreme comixxx stuff does well because it appeals to a wider audience.
Q. Are parodies dead?
A. Its not helped by poor parodies.. Hulk and Wonder Woman were 2 I was looking forward too, but both have only a single scene with the character at the end, and whereas the Hulk character was very well done Tori Black was the wrong choice for Wonder Woman and her costume was rubbish.
Q. I would love to know what you want to see.
A. SLEAZE! The one thing missing today from the golden age is the sleaze. Bring back BJs with girls lovingly worshipping cock not getting skull-fucked, bring back scenes in different locations and partially clothed not setup scene then all clothes off and on the bed/couch, bring back full bodied natural girls and BUSH!!, bring back genuine sex not jack-hammering, bring back cumshot slo-mos and post facial cock play.
Spank-Porn! (I just made that up) Real raincoater stuff eg Jerk-Off Encouragement full movie series. A perfect example is Whitney Stevens in Control #6 she is in a b/g scene but throughout is talking (dirty) to the camera telling you to jerk off, also lots of her doing jerk-off hand motions and finished with her calling you a pervert a demanding you cum on her face. Movies with female narration, of the sex scenes or just a J.O.E voice over or maybe her watching and enjoying the sex scenes so you hearing her get off aswell as the girl in the scene.
Q. I would say that original scripted features are making their comeback.
A. No more please from the companies whose cast list are full of duck billed plastic boobed emaciated girls and that Fabio lookalike.
Q. Original music that adds too the movie, not distracts.
A. This is such a CRUCIAL element to an erotic scene that is almost completely ignored today
Q. What direction would you like to see the industry go in?
A. As others have said lose the formula. Sick of the 5 scene strip/suck/fuck/facial machine.

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InFamous
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Posted - May 19 2012 : 3:28AM

^^
If you go to TLARaw on the Product Info is said...Marks the return of the legendary Tori Black after a lengthy performing hiatus! Now she did this before she gotten pregnant, I wonder why Zero would finally release it after they no longer shooting parodies now?

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Draxxx
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Posted - May 19 2012 : 3:49AM

I don't think parodies are dead or ever going away. The studios that do the better ones will keep making them but only when the subject is right for parody. The studios who tried jumping on the parody bandwagon by just sticking the name of a show/movie on their boxcover while not doing an actual parody or the ones who just did paridies badly will stop doing them because people caught on pretty quickly that those aren't worth buying. We'll see less parodies but the ones that continue will be the better done ones.
I can understand people wanting the formulaic type porn porn with the standard positions in the predictible order to go away but it never will. I think most Gonzo fans actually want that type of porn even if they say otherwise. Gonzo fans seem to like watching those positions and are disapointed if they don't get them or get enough of them in a scene. I'm always seeing fans complain "There wasn't enough reverse cowgirl..." or "The blowjob didn't last long...". People have fav positions and want to see them. Meanwhile, most all scenes will continue to start with a bj because that's what it seems is needed to get the guys going.
I think features should have the most unpredictible sex...even though they usually don't. Like someone already mentioned, the sex in features should fit the story. In features we should be seeing passionate loving sex, wild over the top sex, angry sex, awkward sex, short scenes, long scenes, sex where the sex has already started before the viewer gets there, sex in one position, etc....One of the things that always seemed funny about feature porn is the scenes of the girl/boy who isn't suppose to have any sexual experience but once the sex starts she/he starts going at it like a pro. I thnk it would be interesting to see awkward sex when the story calls for it. It would be funny to see guys who can't hold out when the story calls for it instead of having every guy be a long lasting dynamo. "Revenge" sex should look angry. How about some sex with people fully dressed?
I don't have much problem with Gonzo because it's there to show sex being shot in the best way possible while giving viewers all the positions they like to see. Feature porn often fails for me because the sex is usually less exciting and really predictible and it's sandwiched within a story that they can't get me to really care about. If the sex were more interesting and worked better within the story it would be a much better end result. It's both strange and sad that I find a mainstream movie with no actual sex more exciting and sexy a movie with real sex in it.

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scotscot
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Posted - May 20 2012 : 9:30PM

Hi everyone , Im new here and just a punter !! hopefully this is the right place to post and I dont offend any one.
" Holly Wood " In answer to you questions above ...I dont think the parody train has pulled out at all. ( I think its just arriving and now it will evolve ) I think porn in general needs just needs to evolve. You are right a good story is crucial , and thats because porn needs to be in a context. Have a look at www.SHIB.com.forum ( 10 of thousands of members ) Superheroines in peril gives context to the sex. The ideas are endless and makes a dominant Man (SuperMan ) , or woman ( wonder woman ) do things they are not suposed to, or want to do . This genre has grown dramatically over the last 10 years on the web. Girls like Rachel Steel and Christina Carter do a fabulous acting jobs as Wonderwoman , Catwoman and Batgirl being degraded by a Villian , but what they really need is for main streem porn directors to understand it. Every one does standard fully naked Porn. Main stream porn is all the same. Add some forced orgasms,good v evil, make the viewer take sides. A bit of verbal torment and bondage with the Hero Characters we know we would never normally see in these situations ...now thats a turn on. The genre is crying out for professionals like you to take the film making to a higher quality level. The girls can act. And we will buy !!!

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scotscot
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Posted - May 20 2012 : 10:44PM

Sorry, folks...one more thing......and have a look at the clips4sale site, they have all sorts of "Genres" being cattered for by amateur film makers because of the demand?
And a few suggestive pics that suggest what comes later !!

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wcw43921
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Look Into My Eyes--
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4/08

Posted - May 20 2012 : 11:19PM

You know what I want to see--women seduced while under Hypnosis. The two movie plots in this post are what I have in mind, and if you need someone to write them (and others like them) for you, well, I Can Do That.
Hope that helps.
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herz
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Posted - May 21 2012 : 9:22AM

Are parodies dead? I HOPE SO

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jackthetreacleeater
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Shame on you!
2003 Posts
10/06

Posted - May 21 2012 : 1:03PM

Lets hope so. I'm waiting for the circus to come back to town.
Nothing says romance like anal sex.

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hollywood woody
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Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin
1567 Posts
2/07

Posted - May 21 2012 : 7:20PM

wcw43921 wrote:
hollywood woody wrote:
I would love to know what you want to see.
(snip)
I would say that original scripted features are making their comeback.
Original music that adds too the movie, not distracts.
Hot newcomers as well as some proven winners is a good bet.
(snip)
Let me know what you think. If you have favorite stars tell me who they are and what you want to see them doing.
Keep it legal.
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You know what I want to see--women seduced while under Hypnosis. The two movie plots in this post are what I have in mind, and if you need someone to write them (and others like them) for you, well, I Can Do That.
Hope that helps.
I actually love that idea.
I really need to think about how it could be done.
I would like to get a real hypnotist and actually try it for real.
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hollywood woody
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Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin
1567 Posts
2/07

Posted - May 21 2012 : 7:31PM

After reading all these posts I can safely say that parodies are becoming passe.
One post disagrees with that, but I disagree with him. I know from sitting on the phone all day the sales are way down on 99% of parodies that come out.
Here is what i am going to do. make some movies that completely different from the formula movies you have come to know and hate.
We are going to try and bust the mold.
We will also keep the girls partially dressed until the end, but they will get fuck with panties pulled to the side etc.
The music we will use will be original music that enhances, not distracts.
For features we will script our own.
We will introduce extremely hot new talent.
Look for this on Skow Video. A new company formed by B Skow formerly of Vivid.
The reason he left Vivid is so he can break out of the limitations box and get really erotic nasty stuff produced that gets you hard and makes you want to jerk off.
It wouldn't be soft and pretty and something your wife wants to watch, it will be hardcore kool. Great camera shots, with girls that are 100% into it.
I hope you will enjoy it.
I will announce the first title soon.
It will blow your load for sure.

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Hardware

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Your other left
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Posted - May 21 2012 : 8:26PM

Late to the thread, so this may be pointless, but here goes, anyway:
Parodies are comedies, and comedies live and die on timing. Line up ten porn editors and threaten their lives if they don't put together a movie with great timing and you'll be lucky if you don't end up with ten dead editors. That is how bad timing has become in porn. Of course, "Garbage In" doesn't make their job any easier, but I'm pretty sure the basic problem is somebody approached the scene with a fixed length in mind - FAIL!
As to what direction I would like the industry to go in, I think that's the wrong question. What the industry needs isn't somebody who can chase after the consumer. It is somebody who can lead the consumer down a new path to his own vision. Can you say, Stagliano?
I knew you could. Of course, it has to be a vision that appeals to people so, Oh God, you're going to have to take risks. Sorry 'bout that.

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tintintin
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Posted - May 22 2012 : 11:32AM

Now that's my kind of stuff! And some nasty talking (to eachother) too please ;-)Hopefully no background music, no soft lenses and other artistic bullshit.
The girls don't have to be very pretty (model looking).. the most important thing is that they like it and are nasty.
And please both total shots and close ups.. I hate only total shots.
And please.... ok for the wife but please also a bit nasty. Some saliva sometimes and arses being licked?
And please not another Blue Bird company. They have such nice girls with nice outfits but terrible action.
And as a last suggestion.. please no large empty warehouses with white walls and one leather couch in the middle

Edited by - tintintin on 5/22/2012 5:56:52 PM

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hollywood woody
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Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin
1567 Posts
2/07

Posted - May 22 2012 : 6:50PM

Hardware wrote:
Late to the thread, so this may be pointless, but here goes, anyway:
Parodies are comedies, and comedies live and die on timing. Line up ten porn editors and threaten their lives if they don't put together a movie with great timing and you'll be lucky if you don't end up with ten dead editors. That is how bad timing has become in porn. Of course, "Garbage In" doesn't make their job any easier, but I'm pretty sure the basic problem is somebody approached the scene with a fixed length in mind - FAIL!
As to what direction I would like the industry to go in, I think that's the wrong question. What the industry needs isn't somebody who can chase after the consumer. It is somebody who can lead the consumer down a new path to his own vision. Can you say, Stagliano?
I knew you could. Of course, it has to be a vision that appeals to people so, Oh God, you're going to have to take risks. Sorry 'bout that.
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excellent point. I agree.
I will pass that on to the directors.
Think outside the box.
Build it and they will come.

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hollywood woody
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1567 Posts
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Posted - May 22 2012 : 6:59PM

tintintin wrote:
hollywood woody wrote:We will also keep the girls partially dressed until the end, but they will get fuck with panties pulled to the side etc.
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Now that's my kind of stuff! And some nasty talking (to eachother) too please ;-)Hopefully no background music, no soft lenses and other artistic bullshit.
The girls don't have to be very pretty (model looking).. the most important thing is that they like it and are nasty.
And please both total shots and close ups.. I hate only total shots.
And please.... ok for the wife but please also a bit nasty. Some saliva sometimes and arses being licked?
And please not another Blue Bird company. They have such nice girls with nice outfits but terrible action.
And as a last suggestion.. please no large empty warehouses with white walls and one leather couch in the middle
Edited by - tintintin on 5/22/2012 5:56:52 PM
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See I love to see girls get fucked with some clothes on and eventually ripped off. There will not be soft lenses or artistic bullshit.
I would prefer to use real looking girls too. To me healthy is the new skinny. I hate seeing a cigarette with tits. Big fake tits are not sexy.
Big real tits are.
Also the rim job is a lost art that needs to be brought back. We will have profession rim jobbers.
All sets will be built or high end houses used.
Great action is 100 times better than a nice face and slick costumes.
The girls will be 100% into it, in fact I like that for a title. 100% into it.

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mharris127
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Posted - May 22 2012 : 8:05PM

I have to second Christina Carter. She is hot as hell! If she can be talked into doing a non-kinky scene I think she would be a great choice for almost any movie you do.

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Galento
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Posted - May 22 2012 : 8:23PM

jfarley
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Posted - May 22 2012 : 10:51PM

Something women don't want to watch, with women 100% into it? Good luck trying to fit that square peg into a round hole.

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wcw43921
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Look Into My Eyes--
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Posted - May 22 2012 : 11:22PM

To my mind that's definitely a YMMV. While big naturals are certainly welcome (Maserati XXX comes immediately to mind) I was always a fan of the 90s big tit queens--Lisa Lipps, Wendy Whoppers, Kimberly Kupps, Tawny Peaks, Zornya Dreams and Patty Plenty, to name a few. I also liked Kitten Natividad's performances.
I admit a lot of it depends on how well the augmentation went--I've always said that if you can't tell, why would you care? There are more than a few stars with augmented breasts that are sexy as all hell--Jacky Joy comes to mind, as does Daphne Rosen, and my favorite Taylor Wane. I hope you can find a use for them in these new movies you want to make.
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tintintin
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8/07

Posted - May 23 2012 : 2:52AM

Oh MG .. forgot the most important thing.....
At least one BGG scene in every film. Only BG and one GG is soooo cheap and common these days.
Ultimate but not necessary would be a steamy ggg scene... but now I am drifting away with my naughty thoughts ;-)
Does Skow video have a website?
Edited by - tintintin on 5/23/2012 6:31:39 AM

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Flash

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5/01

Posted - May 23 2012 : 11:30AM

Sets and locations are important. If making features, feature actual locations, even for non-sex plotted portions, I know it costs more to do a location, but it makes the movie look far better and more professional.

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hollywood woody
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Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin
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2/07

Posted - May 23 2012 : 2:12PM

Actually we already found it and shot it.
There are a certain amount of stars out there that truly enjoy what they do. We used them, and will continue to use them.
Maybe I didn't make my point clear. let me rephrase it.
We won't be shooting movies with couples in mind. I am sure a lot of couple will enjoy our new movies, women as well, but these are going to be sexually explosive, to get men hard and women horny.

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