I agree...I doubt there will be any family reunion there. actually, her estrangement from her parents started before her time in porn. she had already been away from then for some while when she started. I believe she had run away.
I agree there's some weirdness going on here - and the remark about getting her paypal id correct ("that's asiaC@, not just asia@"). seems suspicious enough to be a hacker - but I have seen some people act very strangely indeed in such situations. To call anyone's behavior "abnormal" in such a stressfull situation presumes that there is a single correct and expected behavior - and thats just false.
I guess time will tell, but I'm truly saddened if this is truth.
I'd rather be found a gullible, sympathetic, naive fool than a cynical, untrusting, cold-hearted one.
I'm not aware about US law on insurances but here nobody is allowed to drive if he's not covered by insurance against accident , minimum coverage is € 2,000,000.00* is it possible in the USA that the truck driver had not any insurance?
EDIT * at the change of today it's about $ 2,600,000.00
Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 6/12/2006 12:06:52 PM
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Posted - Jun 12 2006 : 7:49AM
I remember watching ET back in 2001 and ASIA was basically bragging about how she only makes one film a month but get paid lots of cash. She said she intended to retire when she turns 30,but she went a little bit longer. I would rather leave it at that.
A friend of mine called Don Lemmon's fitness business, and they said he was dead. So we can rule out the "hacker" theory.
I still don't believe the story(that's all I think it is) Asia declared him dead on her site, so they are going to stick with the story. My friend said that the people that he talked to, acted like he was a virus for asking.
When Anna Malle died it made press. When people think of porn stars they usually think of Jenna Jameson or Tera Patrick, but Asia is well known and there is not one ounce of "press" except Asia's.
Even when you aren't famous, there is still a police report or something. If she wants money, she should show an actual police report on his death. I can't see why they would hold that from her. It seems like the only thing Asia is explaining, is what to do if you want to send her more then $100 via paypal. What a joke.
Wow, that is SO not the case here in the U.S. It varies from state to state, but Nevada only requires $15,000.00 in liability coverage and Utah only $25,000.00. Utah is a "no-fault" state but I think only requires something like $3,000 in PIP coverage.
Don't pornstars ever SAVE some of the money they make for when they retire? I mean it's not like they can do porn forever. Don't they plan ahead and that's not assuming your husband will bring in all the money.
I'm reading this thread and some people simply don't believe the story and find it weird.
You have a one-year-old child, you are eight months pregnant and suddenly you lose your husband. I think it's very normal that you are acting weird at that moment and that you are worried about your (financial) future.
What would you do if this happened to you?
Some posts in this thread are horrible. This isn't XPT.
AVN finally put the story up, but as others have noted, there is no police report to be found online. When Britney Foster, Anna Malle and others passed, it was easy enough to confirm via other means...so far, all we have is Ms. Carrera's site. Nothing on Don Lemmon's website yet, either.
So is it okay to say we're saddened, but skeptical? I think that's fair.
We shall make it clear that the world is very complex, esp. the virtual Internet world. So i think it is very noral for us to suspect something about the case. The main point will be the action taken by Asia after losing her man. There shall be many thing she will need to do like Insurance matter or funeral etc apart from getting online and asking money help.
We do take sincere care abt her situation. But there is no problem for us to question as Asia is a famous porn star.
CHATSWORTH, Calif. - Don Lemmon, adult performer Asia Carrera’s husband, died in an auto accident near Las Vegas Saturday night.
Lemmon was returning to his Utah home from a business trip when he rolled his Jeep across several lanes of traffic on a highway, apparently killing him instantly, his wife said on her Web site Sunday.
She could not be reached for comment. According to police, the single-car accident took place around 9:30 Saturday night near Las Vegas.
“There was an RN (registered nurse) in the car behind him. She tried to help Don, but there was nothing she could do. I can only hope it means he died quickly and maybe painlessly,” she wrote.
“He’s never coming back to me. My husband, my soulmate, my other half. The one I was meant to grow with. I’m almost eight months pregnant with a son he will never get to see and I have a one-year-old daughter who will never be able to remember anything about her father.”
Bud Lee, AVN Hall of Fame member and Carrera’s ex-husband, was at her side Monday, assisting her with funeral arrangements.
“She’s devastated. There’s no doubt about it. She and Don were extremely close. They were best friends and you couldn’t see one without the other, so it’s a terrible loss,” Lee said.
“Her fans have really responded and she’s very appreciative of their support.”
Lee said Carrera, 32, will hold a private memorial service and will have his remains cremated.
Don Lemmon was not the porn star. So there was no need for AVN to put up his death notice. They posted only in conjunction with his relationship to his wife Asia, a former porn star.
I think everyone on this forum should buy something from her site or donate as she's contributed to us as fans and as performers we should give her some support. I ordered some stuff off her site for my husband. My deepest regrets to her and her family.
As far as the story I beleive it. As far as sending donations, sorry I'll pass.
I've been saying for years that these girls don't make any "real" money to survive on. Now this proves my point. And this porn star is suppossed to one the most popular and succesful ones. Plus with a husband who had a job too.
I don't buy the story. She has given no reason, that has confirmed this story.
just because it makes avn.com doesn't make it true. It says the police confirmed, what police? I haven't seen a police report, it seems like Asia's words. Most of the article on avn.com seems like Asia speaking. Not a source really confirming his death. It didn't take long for the media to report on Anna Malle. And what about the lady in the porn who made a snuff film who was killed, she wasn't well known and the media picked up on it.
When someone dies in such a tragic way, like Asia's husband did(car flips over), it usually makes the news. Famous or not. I have checked the local tv news stations in Vegas, and there are no reports on this incident.
Maybe in the coming days, Asia can confirm this incident with a news article, press, obituary, police report etc. So far it is just word of mouth, and I don't believe it.
You could also wait until someone confirms this accident instead of posting these messages. When someone confirms this story some poeple have a lot to explain.
As soon as this happened, Asia went on her own website and asked for donations. Asia herself, has said she has been financially successful in the industry. I find it odd, that you think of paypal right after the incident.
By now, there would of been some kind of proof this incident happened, maybe Asia should release it. So people won't question her. And then let the donations pour in.
If it did, I would buy a few autographs from her site.
You're right niterunner. Asia is indeed financially very succesful and this is just a scam to become even more richer.
Nothing gets by you.
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Posted - Jun 12 2006 : 5:43PM
If it is true, she has my condolences, however, this bulletin and the prior one she wrote just do not sound 'right'. Something seems off. The most current bulletin reads like a paperback fiction excerpt from women's magazine. Its as if it were written specifically to evoke sympathy.
I always perceived Asia as being 'smart'. Could that itself have been a facade?
Isn't it odd that they only had one car? Most couples have two cars, his and hers.
I'm not going to get into it, because discussion of race on this board will get a poster banned, but suffice it to say these she's not a saint.
I said the same thing about Devon when her name got ripped off, and the same thing to Nikki Benz when a her company screwed her: Bad things happen to bad people. It is the world's way of balancing out good and evil.
If you do wrong in the world it will come back to you...
One day, I sincerely hope, the Karma wheel will get around to Max Harcore's mysoginistic ass.I heard he got raided by the FBI, which was nice, but not horrible enough...
Same could be said about you. To be so dimwitted to believe everything that everyone says. We are just exposing what looks like what could be a *possible* scam.
All of Shotgun Styles self-righteous babbling about "karma" has me hoping it'll get around to biting him in the ass, at least here at ADT, sooner than later.
Shotgun Styles, niterunner, etc., If you don't have to say anything positive, please say nothing at all. Asia has lost her beloved husband in a car crash. And you guys keep posting impious stuff. Please stop it.
Juha, I am sorry, but I will post what I choose to. I have never said anything in my post "horrific" about Asia, I just don't believe her story. What's wrong with that? Also be careful of "name dropping" and don't confuse, me or others(etc as you said) with those who *may* be saying cruel things about her. I have not. Opinions make the world go around, I don't share the same thoughts as you do. Deal with it. If you are unhappy, please don't go into this thread. Asia has a chat room on her site, that sounds more suitable for you.
Edited by - niterunner on 6/13/2006 12:27:16 AM
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I'd like to stay but I've got a plane to catch. 3243 Posts 5/06
Posted - Jun 12 2006 : 7:48PM
There is nothing wrong with wanting confirmation of this. Ask anyone with a background in journalism one source does not make a story you need confirmation from 2 or more different sources otherwise all you have is rumor and heresay. This may come as a shock to some people but you can't believe everything you read on the internet or any other media source (for further explanation talk to some relatives of the West Virginia coal miners). The only one being an ass in this thread is Shotgun Styles(save it for an thread on interracial sex not one on possible fatal car crashes SS).
In most states, liability insurance is required. So if the driver does something to someone else or someone elses property, there is money to pay for the damages. Since this was a single car accident, there's liability on anyone else's part.
With something like this, the only insurance that is relevant is life insurance. If Asia's husband owned a company and was the sole breadwinner in the family, it boggles my mind that he did not have life insurance.
As many have pointed out, it is odd that she flaunted herself as a stock whiz and very successfull porn star, only to be suddenly crying poverty now. A couple of thoughts:
I believe this is genuine, and not a scam: Asia has run that website for close to 10 years, and I highly doubt that if this was a hacker, that the message would still be up.
I believe that Asia's current state of mind should be taken into consideration with her request for donations: She just lost a husband, has been unemployed for 3 years, is 8 months pregnant, has a 1-year old, and is probably unemployable for the near future, beyond what small revenue she can make through her website. Combine that with the fact that she had no life insurance policy, and she lost her only automobile in the crash, and I can see where a state of panic might initially set in that would cause her to grieve and beg in the same breath.
As to what happened to all her supposed money she made from lucrative porn contracts and stock investments:
First, I believe it's been pointed out that she and her husband at some point moved to Hawaii, and then moved back, citing expenses. That double move might have eaten up a fair amount of her savings, though not enough to drive her to the poorhouse.
Second, she may have lost a lot in the markets: her FAQ says she was heavy into Mutual Funds, and I know that the whole Mutual Fund sector took a huge hit when the dot com bubble burst in 2000 and '01.
Third: I would not be at all surprised if her husband convinced her to invest a significant portion of her savings into his business. A business that was based in large part on the brand of his name, and now may very well not survive.
So, I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that she might be genuinely panicked about her financial situation, and her begging for money may be a manifestation of her grief and confusion.
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Posted - Jun 12 2006 : 9:35PM
Right. Lemmon is a well-known nutritionist and was successful long before meeting Asia. Asia has never once even come CLOSE to behaving in such a manner. And now he's gonna wreck his rep and she's gonna throw it all away for what? Some Paypal donations?
Healthy cynicism is a good thing, but yours is sickening.
So, since she didn't want to perform with who you wanted her to perform with, she deserved to have her husband die. Interesting idea of "karma" you have there...At least we're in agreement on this. The day when he catches drug-resistant aids, gets struck by lightning, and is then raped to death by Hell's Angels, can't possibly come soon ebough.
Honestly this sounds like a scam for free money..I'm not trying to be harsh or anything but these are facts:
1. No Life Insurance Policy? This is totally absurd. For someone so damn smart. (remember she's a member of Mensa) No way someone that smart can't have life insurance to cover them in case something happens to either one of them.
2. She claims to be unemployed? How is this possible? She runs her own website which generates tons of cash. So collecting money from your own website that you run makes you unemployed? That's total bs.
3. There seems to be no sorrow on her behalf to her deceased husband. Where's the emotion and sorrow?
4. I almost forgot this..and this is the most important part..Let's just say he had no life insurance policy. (EVEN THIS GUY IS A VERY ESTABLISHED PERSON IN THE BUSINESS WORLD) He does have car insurance..so no matter what she will be getting a significant amount of money.
I gotta be really dumb to give a dime to a suspicious cry for help. Post the Death Certificate since you practically posted everything else already. No proof = no money ..NO EXCUSES.
Ummm forget all that Mutual Fund BS.. FACT: In order to drive a car you need car insurance. FACT: He died in a automobile accident. FACT: They will be getting money and lots of it if he did indeed die in a auto accident like she claims.
I love how passionately some folks want to jump in and annihilate this woman, as if she was some undesirable second cousin who might drop by and raid the pantry for a few cans of commodity meat. No one personally came by ADT begging for your money. Although the tone of the web plea has an odd ring to it, and I can't find any obits in the Las Vegas or Utah papers (at least online), it's all more or less hearsay. Maybe it's wiser to suspend judgment for a little while and see what happens. Even if you're right, you still come off like an asshole, and it has zero impact on your life anyway so who cares?
Y'all act like a bunch of housewives sitting at the beauty parlor gossiping while getting your beehives shellac'd.
No, need to suspend judgement. If this happened there would be some kind of info proving he is no longer alive. It doesn't take weeks to show that someone died.
You are right it doesn't affect me, but it is not ethical to steal either.
If Asia wants donations from her fans, the least she can do is show some kind of proof he is no longer living. She is yet to do that.
