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DeeCee
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Posted - Oct 22 2015 : 8:09AM
Given that I'm not gay, I don't understand why in the majority of scenes released nowadays I'm subjected to up to 2-3 minutes of male masturbation at the end of a scene. The typical scenario is that during a scene, the sex will just completely stop so that the male can masturbate, in front of an often bored looking female, to force out a facial. While I hate facials, they wouldn't be as bad If I wasn't forced to spend several minutes watching a guy jerk off.
My enjoyment of porn is at an all time low because of this. Is this some kind of trend that I'm behind on? Does the hetero porn-watching public enjoy male masturbation? I'm about to give up on porn.
DiamondJackman
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LCF All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Oct 22 2015 : 8:59AM
^
c'mon he's new here.
To answer the question:
The real problem is that not even a porn performer can cum on demand , especially because the time needed for shooting is actually a lot longer than what you see on screen , plus there's the stills , pictures taken for covers or websites or magazines , either solo , with both the performers or fucking , in all this time ( measured often in hours) the performer must stay hard and ready .
This they must do in every condition, cold places , hot places, with attractive women, with less attractive women ,with exceptionally attractive women but they cum too early and had to continue, having a headache , after a bad night , after a very good night with their wife, after having been shooting all day in other scenes..
sometimes as it happens some can't cum when the scene ends and have to jerk off in order to finish
in other words that little scene is not meant for your pleasure , it's a way to end a scene when needed
Edited by - LCF on 10/22/2015 9:01:11 AM
DeeCee
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Posted - Oct 22 2015 : 9:24AM
N00dlesDaddy
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Posted - Oct 22 2015 : 9:42AM
I really don't have a problem with this, except in those rare instances when it goes on for an excessive period (couple of minutes), which I put down to poor editing anyway. Don't get the hostility towards it, personally. And why would watching it necessarily make me 'gay'?
 
DiamondJackman
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Posted - Oct 22 2015 : 9:42AM
How do I become a 'senior member'? How many posts away am I?
Edited by - Diamondjackman on 10/22/2015 5:29:45 PM
N00dlesDaddy
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Posted - Oct 22 2015 : 9:45AM
^ It's 1000 posts I believe, so you've a way to go. Having said that, I seemed to hit it in no time at all. This place is nothing if not more-ish.
DeeCee
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Posted - Oct 22 2015 : 10:12AM
If you have no issues with watching male maturbation, then that's perfectly fine. There are thousands of scenes for you to enjoy. But for me, the sight of another man jerking off is an instant wood killer. Having a high tolerance for male masturbation doesn't necessarily mean you're gay, but I don't have this tolerance.
N00dlesDaddy
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Posted - Oct 22 2015 : 10:40AM
^ Cocks feature - heavily - in hetero porn, there's no getting around it. LCF already gave a good explanation for the thing you're objecting to. Me, I like to put those things out of my mind and simply imagine myself in the guy's place - if there were a hot girl kneeling in front of me, offering herself as a cum target, I'd consider it ungentlemanly not to oblige her.
DeeCee
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Posted - Oct 22 2015 : 11:11AM
It's fine that you choose to employ a coping mechanism to deal with the reality of a dude jerking off on your screen. For me, however, I'm not interested in creating a fantasy world in my mind just to get through a modern porn scene. I'm fully aware that male genitals are a feature in porn. They are absolutely necessary, in fact. However, It doesn't follow that I should have to accept excessive male masturbation just because their are male genitals in porn.
Finally, you reference LCF's response as if it closed the case on this issue. As I said before, those excuses don't hold water.
chessmaster
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Posted - Oct 22 2015 : 1:55PM
Why can't they just edit this out or let them fuck until he can orgasm naturally?
N00dlesDaddy
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Posted - Oct 22 2015 : 1:59PM
^^ I didn't say LCF closed the case, I said he offered as good - and as factually correct - an explanation as you're gonna hear for the thing that irks you. As to the subject of male genitals in porn, hey, you're the one who used the 'G' word in the title of your thread. Just saying.
Edited by - N00dlesDaddy on 10/22/2015 2:00:14 PM
Ben Mockridge
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Posted - Oct 22 2015 : 2:17PM
If they let them fuck until he can orgasm naturally then you will have a vaginal cumshot or maybe a frantic dash to an unsatisfactory facial. Satisfactory to some maybe but not the prefered outcome.
If the girl is giving oral then its a rarity that guys can orgasm from unaided oral alone.
Either way for a decent controlled cumshot your gonna need the guy to pull his own trigger. That dosnt mean the producers cant edit most of it out , they probably do edit most of it out.
Actally the pre-cum jerk off can be good if the female performer makes an effort with the dirty talk etc.
wanka
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Posted - Oct 22 2015 : 2:20PM
I like the Male member jerking off on top of a sexy girl's face and sometimes holding her down from her hair! So bloody sexy!!
Also i always finish with this move in my personal life and its all due to me telling my gf's that what they show in porn is a natural ending to all sex.Not lying about this at all!!
Absolutely love it
Gore Gore Girl All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Oct 22 2015 : 3:11PM
My favourite thread title of the week.
 
LCF All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Oct 22 2015 : 3:21PM
More than the 1 he had when he posted his , when someone unknown enters a room you don't mock him, it's just rude.
and actually you don't need any post to get this, common sense would do perfectly
Canadian_Cindy
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Posted - Oct 23 2015 : 1:37AM
I am sure the producers will see this thread and tailor all their moves just to your personal tastes. Fuck everyone else.
N00dlesDaddy
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Posted - Oct 23 2015 : 2:01AM
X 1000!
NomnoMnOm
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Posted - Oct 23 2015 : 2:03AM
Cross over to G/G porn and there will be no more worries of this.
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Posted - Oct 23 2015 : 3:26AM
I agree it happens too often and is often lame but it is hardly new.
DiamondJackman
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Posted - Oct 23 2015 : 4:51AM
Dan
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Posted - Oct 23 2015 : 5:41AM
Being gay or not gay isn't always a straightforward kind of thing. Because some people are bi, and there is no clear boundary where gayness stops and heterosexuality begins even within one person. A guy can be a little bit gay in one or two things, but mostly heterosexual in most other things. And there is nothing wrong with this, because that's the way most people normally are.
The important thing to note here is that not everybody enjoys the same sex acts. I also find it a little strange how guys withdraw from the lady and either masturbate themselves or have the lady masturbate them to orgasm. Because in real life I have no desire to do this at all. And I don't quite understand why a guy would want to do something like this.
My preference is to see the guy bring himself to orgasm by going extra hard and fast inside the lady's pussy or ass, until he is at the point of no-return, and only then he pulls out of her and squirts his cum all over her. But I understand that this last-second pullout might not be so easy for a guy to do. The natural instinct for a guy is to drive his cock deeper inside the lady, rather than pull out of her at his point.
The guy will give his lady an accidental creampie once in a while, when he does it this way with her. Which actually might be a turn-on for many viewers to watch. Because this makes the sex between the lady and her guy less predictable and more fun to watch.
But the problem with unpredictable sex that's fun to watch is that porn-contracts predict what kind of sex the guy and the lady will have, which leaves little room for spontaneity.
DeeCee
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Posted - Oct 23 2015 : 6:56AM
Just expressing an opinion here. Imagine doing that on a discussion board. I'm under no illusion that I'm going to change the world. At the end o the day, I can pay cam girls, who are as hot as any girl who has ever entered the porn industry, to make fantastically shot HD custom boy/girl sex tapes for me. I do this often, and its great having video that no one else will ever see. I'm only expressing my opinion because I want to spend some of this money on the porn industry, and the current state of things makes this hard for me.
If you don't like my opinion, feel free to start your own thread championing male masturbation, or come up with a reply stating how male masturbation is here to stay. There's nothing wrong with a healthy discussion. But I'm not going to be silent just because my chances of influencing the porn industry are slim to none.
Teddy Rattlesnake
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Posted - Oct 23 2015 : 7:54AM

How do I become a 'senior member'? How many posts away am I?
Edited by - Diamondjackman on 10/22/2015 5:29:45 PM
[/quote] Continually insulting people on ADT can get you deactivated.
2bollocks
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Posted - Oct 23 2015 : 10:52AM
LMAO 'g word'? That's what you call it? PC liberals are even making the word gay a slur now.
 
Flash All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Oct 23 2015 : 11:10AM
MOD:
Be considerate of each other in this thread.
Canadian_Cindy
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Posted - Oct 23 2015 : 10:03PM
I just think it is silly the number of threads here with people demanding ALL PORN be to their particular tastes. There is plenty of porn out there that suits what you want so why decry that the rest doesn't?
DeeCee
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Posted - Oct 23 2015 : 11:06PM
I don't understand your point. This is a forum where individual porn viewers discuss the porn industry, including their likes and dislikes. I'm sorry that your ideal public forum is a place where everybody just shuts up about topics that you're not interested in, but it just doesn't work that way. If you want a public space where the only thing that people do is cheer-lead the porn industry, then feel free to create that thread. Your time would be better spent in doing that rather than tracking down other posters and telling them to be silent because you don't like whats being discussed in their dedicated threads.
Additionally, you don't know anything about my tastes and how well catered to they are by the porn industry. This thread is about one gripe, i have others. My distaste for most modern porn is a result of my collective gripes. I would share them with you, but you don't seem to tolerate others expressing their tastes. In any event, thank you for contributing to my thread.
Jackie Treehorn
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Posted - Oct 23 2015 : 11:48PM
I don't view it as a gay thing, but it does feel like lazy film-making when there doesn't even appear to be an effort to try and make it look like the guy pulled out just before blowing his load. When the man has to stroke it more than a few times, it makes it look like the last hour of fucking served no purpose, as he pretty much goes through an entire jacking off session to get off.
Even worse is when the girl goes to finish the guy off and he reaches down and greedily takes his dick away from her. Look, If you are going to be like that, then just go lock yourself in the bathroom with a nudie mag and stop ruining muh porn.
MorganKane
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Posted - Oct 24 2015 : 12:08AM
^+1!
Even worse is when you think the girl is going to finish the guy off, but just before he cums he pulls her hands away like they're on fire to jerk off.
The guy jerking himself off to cum is far from my favorite thing in porn, but to me it's not the end of the world or anything. When it goes on for minutes, that is really annoying. It's the reason why I'll never join Killergram again. Not editing that is just incredibly lazy.
Macko69
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Posted - Oct 24 2015 : 12:22AM
I'm certainly no porn star, but I have a condition that's a blessing/curse that I suspect many male porn stars also have. I take a very long time to cum, and even though I can stay hard for a long time, if I want to cum, fairly often the only way I can do it is to jack off. I'm lucky my wife is patient and doesn't mind when this happens, but I've had girlfriends in the past who were frustrated that their mouth, pussy or hands weren't always enough to get the job done. Even if I jack off until I'm at the point of no return, if I turn it over to the woman at that moment, the ejaculation often isn't nearly as strong or fulfilling.
That said, I don't like to watch guys jacking off for a long time towards the end of a scene. I'm aware that the guy may have some difficulty shooting on command, but this is something that can be fixed in the edit. In most of the porn I watch, though, they don't usually show more than a few seconds of the guy "priming the pump". Any more than about 7-8 seconds of watching it and I start to think, "Cmon dude, finish up already!"
yourmomma
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Posted - Oct 24 2015 : 12:36AM
we all watch the same scenes. How come when that happens, I'm focusing on the girl and you're focusing on other things?
DeeCee
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Posted - Oct 24 2015 : 12:44AM
because its on my screen, and my eyes see it.
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Posted - Oct 24 2015 : 12:47AM
This amuses me because scientists have demonstrated time and again that our brains ignore much of what our eyes see.
DeeCee
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Posted - Oct 24 2015 : 12:56AM
If my brain can ignore the sight of a guy furiously beating off for 3 minutes in the middle of a 55 inch HD TV screen, then my brain isn't working properly.
 
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Posted - Oct 24 2015 : 1:44AM
^ lol
So, what is keeping you glued to your television, or monitor, watching something you don't want to see? Is the cum shot the focus of your attention? If not, then I don't see why this is such a big problem for you. You know you aren't going to like the ending, so don't wait for the ending.
That, or edit your porn - it would probably be easier than trying to get all the producer/editors to do things your way in every scene.
N00dlesDaddy
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Posted - Oct 24 2015 : 1:53AM
You've completely misunderstood the reason for my phrasing it in that way.
DeeCee
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Posted - Oct 24 2015 : 2:05AM
As you're watching a scene play out, you don't realize that you're going to end up watching a 3 minute masturbation session. In the moment you're thinking surely he'll cum any second now, but your wrong. Then it dawns on you that you just spent several minutes watching another man jerk himself to completion.
Edited by - DeeCee on 10/24/2015 2:06:31 AM
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Oct 24 2015 : 2:58AM
I find it strange that so many here are so quick to leap to the defense of lazy, uninspired pornography. Don't we have a right to ask for better made, more passionate porn as much as we have a right to ask for better made films, music or any other kind of medium?
Ben Mockridge
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Posted - Oct 24 2015 : 4:29AM
It could be argued that for most people after watching 25minutes of arousing porn your brain function is no longer working properly and you are elevated to such a heightened state of arousal that you are even inclined to beat off to things that in a normal state you woudnt.
For example - who hasnt finished themselves off after the film has finished altogether.
Maybe you just have a particular dislike of guys masterbating that isnt overcome even when your brain isnt working properly due to extreme sexual arousal.
Most people can at least nurse their arousal through the few minutes off male masterbation until the final payoff and the girl gets her cum-uppance , to loose all arousal at the sight of the guy masterbating would be a problem.
Dan
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Posted - Oct 24 2015 : 7:04AM
I usually skip over parts of the porn scene that I don't especially enjoy watching. I almost never watch the entire scene from start to finish.
I suspect that this is the way a lot of porn-fans watch their porn-scenes too. Because not everybody enjoys the same things in porn.
It's probably possible now to collect statistics for what parts of a scene most people skip over, when they watch online video. And once the website has statistics for what's popular and not popular in a scene, then this can be used as a guide for making better porn-scenes in the future. And it might be even possible now to have artificial intelligence software personalize your porn-movies for you by selectively showing you the parts of the scenes that you always like to watch.
This isn't possible to do with DVDs, but with online porn videos, there is no limit to how much artificial intelligence software can analyze your likes and dislikes and personalize your porn movies for you.
Perhaps this is the next big thing in porn that will either make or break porn-companies.
Rosco Fuji
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Posted - Oct 24 2015 : 8:13AM
One could make the argument that there is a little bit of gayness to all guys watching porn. Once one gets past the hotness of the girl, the focus turns to the guy's cock. The complaints range from the cock is too big or too small, to being cut or uncut. Do you want to see a semi flaccid cock? No, you want to see a guy's hard throbbing cock! Guys want to see 2 hard cocks rubbing together in a girl's mouth, pussy, or ass. Now with the genre of Triple Anal, the shot almost eliminates any aspect of the girl and you only see guy junk. plus you could take the girl out of the equation, but as long as she's still in the general vicinity of all the cock action, it's only called homo erotic and not gay. Finally, guys complain about how weak the guy's load is once he does actiually drain his balls. So, to recap, DeeCee, you are soooo gay, just like the rest of us hetero porn viewers.
Note to everyone: this was an humorous observation about the silliness of porn and not to be insulting so don't get sand in your vaginas.
Lastly DeeCee, to combat your complaint, try using the FF button on your remote. It's there for a reason.
DeeCee
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Posted - Oct 24 2015 : 9:14AM
Allow me to play with your example a bit. Let's say you're watching a hot hetero mmf threesome for 15 minutes, and you're more turned on than you've ever been in your life. All of a sudden, male #1, pulls out of the female, and male #2 unexpectedly starts to suck off male #1 for 20 seconds, before male #1 ultimately delivers an enormous facial to the female. Would your previous arousal carry you through this? This example assumes that you're not bisexual. If you are, then you're happy either way.
Watching another man engage in an extended masturbation session, similar to watching male on male fellatio, is an act that my mind just can't associate with heterosexual voyeurism.
I don't mean any offense to people who are gay or bi. My sexuality is in no way superior to theirs. I'm just stating my personal point of view.
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Posted - Oct 24 2015 : 10:05AM
I wouldn't say that I'm leaping to its defense so much as acknowledging that it will be easier for those consumers who have a complaint to deal with the issue. This isn't the first time we've heard this complaint, after all. That being so, and all else being equal, surely some producers would have seen an opportunity to get a leg up. Yet, here we are.
Perhaps laziness and lack of inspiration are not at the root of the problem, then. It may be that there is an audience for guys jerking off; it may just be that including the guys jerking off keeps the costs down, and if you can't come in at the same price as your competitor then you're out of business.
Ben Mockridge
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Posted - Oct 24 2015 : 2:43PM
^^If your as aroused as youve ever been in your life you should have the momentum to carry you through just 20 seconds of male on male action. Im strictly hetero and although the scenario you describe would do nothing to enhance my arousal , im also not horrified by the sight of male masturbation or m/m action to the point where the smallest sight of it would totally obliterate any existing arousal i had built up. So long as it didnt go on forever that is, if it was 20 minutes of male/male action then for sure that would be a mood killer.
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Posted - Oct 24 2015 : 2:48PM
Look for anal scenes.
They don't have any gay overtones
geralt
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Posted - Oct 24 2015 : 3:53PM
If all porn scenes ended with a creampie that wouldn't bee an issue.
I think it comes down to the logistics, to achieve a great facial or cum shot in the mouth the girl have to get into the right position with her face, and the guys need to able to "aim" as mentioned before there is the option of "pull out" but if all scenes where like that there would probably be lots of accidental creampies and cum flying in the wrong directions instead of into the girls mouth or on to her face it would might end up on the floor :P
jlumero
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Posted - Oct 24 2015 : 7:26PM
Let's be realistic you know when the facial is coming, i.e. the last 2-3 mins of the scene. Seems a pretty easy way to get around this is to finish at a different part of the scene, perhaps during a position you prefer to view like reverse cowgirl. Voila no viewing of a male masturbathon required.
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Posted - Oct 24 2015 : 8:13PM
I have a feeling most of the people responding to the OP in this thread are missing his point, because he keeps going back to the "I'm not gay" business. It's distracting from the issue at hand.
Here's the issue, as I understand it: in years past, the guy would jerk to finish, but it would seem, through good editing, to only take a few seconds between end of fucking and blowing a load.
Now, there are sites/directors where the guy will pull out and jerk it until he cums, which does and probably always did take several minutes; but now you get to watch the entire several minutes that it takes.
Sometimes you want to see the cumshot. And you don't even mind if there's a few seconds of tug before he blows his load. But honestly, some scenes I've seen in more recent years have had a full four minutes of stroke while the girl just looks bored, before the guy finally says "I'm ready!" and the girl jumps into baby bird mode and takes his load in her mouth.
Again, I'm sure this always happened, but they used to have the good sense to edit out the part where the girl is checking her nails while a guy is standing above her jerking off.
Editing is not a bad thing there.
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Posted - Oct 24 2015 : 8:27PM
^I think it's annoying too. It tends to take me out of the scene.
2bollocks
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Lol @ baby bird mode.
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