Attention Hetero Porn Industry: I'm Not Gay (page 2)

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Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10	Posted - Oct 24 2015 : 8:39PM killbillvol69 wrote: (snip) It's distracting from the issue at hand. (snip) Click to expand I thought what's in the hand is the issue [Link]
killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18635 Posts 4/08	Posted - Oct 24 2015 : 9:07PM ^ haha. OK you got me on that one. [Link]
BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07	Posted - Oct 24 2015 : 10:09PM Hardware wrote: I wouldn't say that I'm leaping to its defense so much as acknowledging that it will be easier for those consumers who have a complaint to deal with the issue. This isn't the first time we've heard this complaint, after all. That being so, and all else being equal, surely some producers would have seen an opportunity to get a leg up. Yet, here we are. Perhaps laziness and lack of inspiration are not at the root of the problem, then. It may be that there is an audience for guys jerking off; it may just be that including the guys jerking off keeps the costs down, and if you can't come in at the same price as your competitor then you're out of business. Click to expand For sure the director of the Hand to Mouth series was on here once and people were praising the series for the fact that each scene ended with the woman finishing the fellow off and he said that he had to discontinue the series because it look so much time and effort to get those final shots. Sad but true, I do notice some producers though, like Nubile.com or PassionHD who often end their scenes like this, I wonder what the magic ingredient is? [Link]
N00dlesDaddy Senior Member Layla...got me on my knees... 1793 Posts 7/13	Posted - Oct 25 2015 : 4:59AM I don't know what kill bill is watching but in 21 years as a porn viewer I think I could count on the fingers of one hand the occasions when I've had to sit through a protracted male jerk-off. Maybe I'm watching the wrong stuff but, for me, the OP's outrage seems disproportionate to the actual problem. [Link]

2bollocks Senior Member 3588 Posts 3/10	Posted - Oct 25 2015 : 7:34AM BlackSix wrote: For sure the director of the Hand to Mouth series was on here once and people were praising the series for the fact that each scene ended with the woman finishing the fellow off and he said that he had to discontinue the series because it look so much time and effort to get those final shots. Sad but true, I do notice some producers though, like Nubile.com or PassionHD who often end their scenes like this, I wonder what the magic ingredient is? Click to expand I believe the magic ingredient is foreskin. It's scientifically proven that intact males have much more sensation and less ED problems, american guys in porn are cut and many also have the 'death grip syndrome'. I believe that if the male performers were intact the girls could finish them off manually without so much trouble. [Link]
BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07	Posted - Oct 25 2015 : 7:49AM N00dlesDaddy wrote: I don't know what kill bill is watching but in 21 years as a porn viewer I think I could count on the fingers of one hand the occasions when I've had to sit through a protracted male jerk-off. Maybe I'm watching the wrong stuff but, for me, the OP's outrage seems disproportionate to the actual problem. Click to expand You probably just fast forward to the cumshot. It is far from rare although perhaps less common than it use to be as I think directors and editors clued in that it is not very effective to show a guy jerking off by himself for minutes at a time before the cumshot, it too clearly reveals the mechanics of shooting a scene. [Link]
N00dlesDaddy Senior Member Layla...got me on my knees... 1793 Posts 7/13	Posted - Oct 25 2015 : 8:23AM ^ No, no fast-forwarding. Protracted to me means about a minute or longer - very, very rarely have I seen this. However, as someone said in an earlier post, this can be a good time for the girl to get talkative, lick her lips, bat her eyelids, make cooing noises in anticipation of the incoming load...I absolutely love that stuff. I only have a problem with it if the length of time is absolutely taking the piss. [Link]
Ben Mockridge Deactivated User 382 Posts 9/15	Posted - Oct 25 2015 : 8:47AM We should be grateful that every cumshot these days isnt preceded by the camera cutting to the face of the guy in the throes of orgasm , thank god producers finally fathomed that is the last thing viewers want to see. However there needs to be some footage of the guy jacking off for continuity purposes and so long as its not overly long and is mitigated by the females presence then its fine. Lets face it if it was just one minute of the guy jacking off with no sight of the chick then that would be unnacceptable and basically like watching a homo flick. There are plenty of scenes where the guy jacks off endlessly, for example Arianna Mistry did a scene for Killergram where the guys jacksfor over 3 minutes - however its justabout redemed by the constant presence of Ariana. [Link]
2bollocks Senior Member 3588 Posts 3/10	Posted - Oct 25 2015 : 9:56AM Another thing I'm sure I'm not alone in: The volume of the guy climaxing. Sometimes I find that even more distracting when the guy yells and moans so loud that you can't even hear the receiving girl anymore. Producers should tell them to tone it down. Edited by - 2bollocks on 10/25/2015 9:57:12 AM [Link]
Canadian_Cindy Deactivated User 1102 Posts 2/15	Posted - Oct 25 2015 : 9:42PM DeeCee wrote: Hardware wrote: ^ lol So, what is keeping you glued to your television, or monitor, watching something you don't want to see? Is the cum shot the focus of your attention? If not, then I don't see why this is such a big problem for you. You know you aren't going to like the ending, so don't wait for the ending. That, or edit your porn - it would probably be easier than trying to get all the producer/editors to do things your way in every scene. Click to expand As you're watching a scene play out, you don't realize that you're going to end up watching a 3 minute masturbation session. In the moment you're thinking surely he'll cum any second now, but your wrong. Then it dawns on you that you just spent several minutes watching another man jerk himself to completion. Edited by - DeeCee on 10/24/2015 2:06:31 AM Click to expand Porn should be fun. Whining and moaning about the porn you "don't like"; instead of watching the stuff you do like, is strange. You want ADT people to hear what you don't like; fine. But, why keep watching stuff you don't like? If you don't like "modern porn" (whatever the hell that means), then buy movies that were put out in whatever era you are nostalgic for. I really don't get people that will put so much energy into complaining about something they don't like, instead of putting their energy into things they do like. There are countless porn titles put out that don't have guys power jerking for an extended period before cumming; you should check it out. And it doesn't make you gay because you are watching guys jerk off (are you that insecure that you are worried about a gay label because you see a naked man jerking off?). Many men like to visualize they are the guy fucking their favorite porn girls so they do like to see a jerk and a facial or a cumshot. There is, even in this day and age, an enormous amount of porn being put out; with over 30 years of porn available to buy online as well. Unless you have 100 hours per day to watch porn, you can never watch it all so this whole discussion is moot. There is plenty of content to suit what you want. This forum would serve you better if you asked people to recommend scenes that have what you want. That is the great part of here. Making the 100th thread this month about what you don't like in porn serves no purpose. FIND WHAT YOU LIKE. Edited by - Canadian_Cindy on 10/25/2015 9:48:12 PM [Link]
N00dlesDaddy Senior Member Layla...got me on my knees... 1793 Posts 7/13	Posted - Oct 26 2015 : 2:51AM Canadian_Cindy wrote: FIND WHAT YOU LIKE. Click to expand Or, y'know, post in the hate thread? [Link]
DeeCee Member 13 Posts 8/15	Posted - Oct 26 2015 : 3:57PM Canadian_Cindy wrote: DeeCee wrote: Hardware wrote: ^ lol So, what is keeping you glued to your television, or monitor, watching something you don't want to see? Is the cum shot the focus of your attention? If not, then I don't see why this is such a big problem for you. You know you aren't going to like the ending, so don't wait for the ending. That, or edit your porn - it would probably be easier than trying to get all the producer/editors to do things your way in every scene. Click to expand As you're watching a scene play out, you don't realize that you're going to end up watching a 3 minute masturbation session. In the moment you're thinking surely he'll cum any second now, but your wrong. Then it dawns on you that you just spent several minutes watching another man jerk himself to completion. Edited by - DeeCee on 10/24/2015 2:06:31 AM Click to expand Porn should be fun. Whining and moaning about the porn you "don't like"; instead of watching the stuff you do like, is strange. You want ADT people to hear what you don't like; fine. But, why keep watching stuff you don't like? If you don't like "modern porn" (whatever the hell that means), then buy movies that were put out in whatever era you are nostalgic for.. I really don't get people that will put so much energy into complaining about something they don't like, instead of putting their energy into things they do like. There are countless porn titles put out that don't have guys power jerking for an extended period before cumming; you should check it out. And it doesn't make you gay because you are watching guys jerk off (are you that insecure that you are worried about a gay label because you see a naked man jerking off?). Many men like to visualize they are the guy fucking their favorite porn girls so they do like to see a jerk and a facial or a cumshot. There is, even in this day and age, an enormous amount of porn being put out; with over 30 years of porn available to buy online as well. Unless you have 100 hours per day to watch porn, you can never watch it all so this whole discussion is moot. There is plenty of content to suit what you want. This forum would serve you better if you asked people to recommend scenes that have what you want. That is the great part of here. Making the 100th thread this month about what you don't like in porn serves no purpose. FIND WHAT YOU LIKE. Edited by - Canadian_Cindy on 10/25/2015 9:48:12 PM Click to expand Thank you for your sage advice about the meaning of porn and how I should be consuming porn, but I politely decline your recommendations. You keep going on about how if I don't enjoy male masturbation, then I should just watch other porn, as if male masterbation in hetero porn is some unique category that's displayed on a box cover, or in a scene description on a website. I don't know about you, but i actually spend my money on this stuff before I watch it. What this means, is that the masturbation that I am discussing comes as a complete surprise. Given that my complaint centers on the money that spend, I will complain as much as I see fit. If my perfectly valid use of a public forum to express my opinion offends your notion of what a public forum should be, then that's just an issue you'll have to deal with Additionally, in your response, you state your confusion at my use of the term modern porn. To do away with your confusion, let me state that I am referring to porn made and released in the present day, typically along a schedule determined by the content producers. Edited by - Deecee on 10/26/2015 3:58:11 PM [Link]
chessmaster Member 768 Posts 6/12	Posted - Oct 26 2015 : 9:36PM I'm confused about why so many on here are defending this practice. [Link]
Macko69 Senior Member Gone for a walk. 1985 Posts 5/08	Posted - Oct 26 2015 : 10:28PM ^ Perhaps I missed it, but I haven't seen one person defending this practice. There were a few who explained why it might happen, a number of people who essentially said "if you don't like it, fast forward", and a bunch of us who essentially said "I haven't seen that happen much in the porn I watch". None of that can be defined as "defending" anything really. [Link]

Canadian_Cindy Deactivated User 1102 Posts 2/15	Posted - Oct 28 2015 : 3:30AM DeeCee wrote: Canadian_Cindy wrote: DeeCee wrote: Hardware wrote: ^ lol So, what is keeping you glued to your television, or monitor, watching something you don't want to see? Is the cum shot the focus of your attention? If not, then I don't see why this is such a big problem for you. You know you aren't going to like the ending, so don't wait for the ending. That, or edit your porn - it would probably be easier than trying to get all the producer/editors to do things your way in every scene. Click to expand As you're watching a scene play out, you don't realize that you're going to end up watching a 3 minute masturbation session. In the moment you're thinking surely he'll cum any second now, but your wrong. Then it dawns on you that you just spent several minutes watching another man jerk himself to completion. Edited by - DeeCee on 10/24/2015 2:06:31 AM Click to expand Porn should be fun. Whining and moaning about the porn you "don't like"; instead of watching the stuff you do like, is strange. You want ADT people to hear what you don't like; fine. But, why keep watching stuff you don't like? If you don't like "modern porn" (whatever the hell that means), then buy movies that were put out in whatever era you are nostalgic for.. I really don't get people that will put so much energy into complaining about something they don't like, instead of putting their energy into things they do like. There are countless porn titles put out that don't have guys power jerking for an extended period before cumming; you should check it out. And it doesn't make you gay because you are watching guys jerk off (are you that insecure that you are worried about a gay label because you see a naked man jerking off?). Many men like to visualize they are the guy fucking their favorite porn girls so they do like to see a jerk and a facial or a cumshot. There is, even in this day and age, an enormous amount of porn being put out; with over 30 years of porn available to buy online as well. Unless you have 100 hours per day to watch porn, you can never watch it all so this whole discussion is moot. There is plenty of content to suit what you want. This forum would serve you better if you asked people to recommend scenes that have what you want. That is the great part of here. Making the 100th thread this month about what you don't like in porn serves no purpose. FIND WHAT YOU LIKE. Edited by - Canadian_Cindy on 10/25/2015 9:48:12 PM Click to expand Thank you for your sage advice about the meaning of porn and how I should be consuming porn, but I politely decline your recommendations. You keep going on about how if I don't enjoy male masturbation, then I should just watch other porn, as if male masterbation in hetero porn is some unique category that's displayed on a box cover, or in a scene description on a website. I don't know about you, but i actually spend my money on this stuff before I watch it. What this means, is that the masturbation that I am discussing comes as a complete surprise. Given that my complaint centers on the money that spend, I will complain as much as I see fit. If my perfectly valid use of a public forum to express my opinion offends your notion of what a public forum should be, then that's just an issue you'll have to deal with Additionally, in your response, you state your confusion at my use of the term modern porn. To do away with your confusion, let me state that I am referring to porn made and released in the present day, typically along a schedule determined by the content producers. Edited by - Deecee on 10/26/2015 3:58:11 PM Click to expand There are fast forward features if you happen to pay for a movie and are shocked there is a 3 minute jerk off scene. Also, magically enough, this message forum is connected to REVIEWS!!!. Maybe read some before making a purchase. And again, ask around before buying, that is what this place is really great for. [Link]
Dildoslime Member 177 Posts 4/09	Posted - Oct 28 2015 : 4:07AM I completely understand and agree with the OP. The only thing that makes it worse is when they flash to his face......... [Link]
BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07	Posted - Oct 28 2015 : 4:55AM The FF advice is practical but isn't an excuse for poorly editing your porn. Shooting a scene with few cuts is a legitimate choice but it has to be done for a reason. Even if you don't view porn as 'art' it at the very least is a craft, nothing the matter with demanding the directors and editors do a better job. [Link]
chessmaster Member 768 Posts 6/12	Posted - Oct 28 2015 : 1:03PM ^exactly. That's all we're asking. Just edit it out or get guys that don't have to jerk off for more than 45-60 seconds. [Link]
Canadian_Cindy Deactivated User 1102 Posts 2/15	Posted - Oct 28 2015 : 2:08PM chessmaster wrote: or get guys that don't have to jerk off for more than 45-60 seconds. Click to expand That is tough to do. ED drugs make it harder to cum and also, you have to think a porn guy gets desensitized fucking porn girls every day as well. The power jerk is their only hope. I grant that companies could edit it out; and they are lazy for not doing so. [Link]
Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07	Posted - Oct 30 2015 : 6:15AM Canadian_Cindy wrote: Porn should be fun. Whining and moaning about the porn you "don't like"; instead of watching the stuff you do like, is strange. You want ADT people to hear what you don't like; fine. But, why keep watching stuff you don't like? If you don't like "modern porn" (whatever the hell that means), then buy movies that were put out in whatever era you are nostalgic for. I really don't get people that will put so much energy into complaining about something they don't like, instead of putting their energy into things they do like. There are countless porn titles put out that don't have guys power jerking for an extended period before cumming; you should check it out. And it doesn't make you gay because you are watching guys jerk off (are you that insecure that you are worried about a gay label because you see a naked man jerking off?). Many men like to visualize they are the guy fucking their favorite porn girls so they do like to see a jerk and a facial or a cumshot. There is, even in this day and age, an enormous amount of porn being put out; with over 30 years of porn available to buy online as well. Unless you have 100 hours per day to watch porn, you can never watch it all so this whole discussion is moot. There is plenty of content to suit what you want. This forum would serve you better if you asked people to recommend scenes that have what you want. That is the great part of here. Making the 100th thread this month about what you don't like in porn serves no purpose. FIND WHAT YOU LIKE. Click to expand I'd say finding porn that a person likes in every way often isn't possible. Because such porn hasn't yet been made. When you find porn without jerking off, then there might be something else that either you don't like, or it's missing there. In a half-hour scene there are probably hundreds if not thousands of different little things that go on. And any one of them can either turn you on or off. I'd say that most possible porn hasn't yet been made. And it will probably never be made, because a part of the enjoyment is the porn-star in it. People will always want to see the new chick take hard dick the way they've seen some other hot lady do it. For many people, it's not possible to find porn that they like in every way. The only way they can get porn that they like is if they make such porn themselves. Which isn't possible now. But in the future, with the assistance of artificial intelligence, ordinary people might be able to make their own porn movies. And that's when complaining about porn will become a waste of time. Because then you can say, why don't you make the porn you like, instead of complaining about the porn other people have made? Edited by - Dan on 10/30/2015 6:16:19 AM [Link]