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nudity
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168 Posts
9/02
Posted - Apr 5 2005 : 1:04AM
I fully agree with arthur's arguments on this subject.

It is stupid that the porn industry is split into two separate categories: (1) straight & lesbian (2) gay. Why is it okay when a female performer first does lesbian scenes and later straight scenes, but not okay for a male performer to switch from gay to straight porn or vice versa? Clearly this has to do with homophobia on the hand and the silly male fantasy that "all porn girls are bi-sexual" on the other.

The AVN can and should do something about it, but as the examples in the (previous) thread indicate, they seem to accept the segregation. I think the example of the AVN award ceremony is striking. Yes, the AVN has awards for gay porn, however it is "better" to hand out the gay awards at a separate ceremony.... In other words: we don't want gay performers at the ceremony that really matters.

I also want to say that I reject the venomous reactions to arthur's posts.

skronker
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Scopophiliac
9780 Posts
9/02
Posted - Apr 5 2005 : 1:39AM
Except Arthur showed no interest in having a discussion. He just wanted to repeat his mantra. I think a lot of posters offered some valid reasons why there's not an issue here.

For me, most straight videos are fairly gay, in that most of what you see are naked men standing around bare-assed stroking their cocks. You also have performers who have worked both sides of the coin -- look at Nacho -- and you have gay directors making straight porn, llike Chi Chi LaRue.

I woudn't care if there was more gay content in AVN -- seems that there is a gay section, much as there are gay sections in every video store. Maybe Arthur should explore some "alternative" porn which blurs gender roles and identities. It exists, and some of it is pretty interesting.

Lee O
Forearm Trainer

mmmmmmm........ after-birth
1193 Posts
8/03
Posted - Apr 5 2005 : 3:21AM
A few points . b/b sex carries a far higher risk of STDs including HIV than g/g , so a gay star moving to straight might be shunned more than a lesbo embracing the man cock . Gay men are less acceptable in mainstream than lesbo women for a variety of reason's I don't really understand . For example , many straight girls are willing to snog a girl friend on camera for a laugh , but how many straight guys have you ever seen try that ? Many of us guys apparently have a confused view of lesbians : our heads tell us they're exclusive and not interested in us , but our balls insist that they're just warming up for the main show . It's an interesting topic given enough openness to having your views dissected and rejected .

Edited by - Lee O on 4/5/2005 3:26:06 AM

croy
Platinum Member

Discovry
4574 Posts
3/04
Posted - Apr 5 2005 : 3:53AM
I reject your rejection of the rejections.

Look, this can go on in an endless loop. You or arthur have nothing to say to the rebuttals. What venemous reactions? Most posts gave reasons why arthur could be wrong. Then arthur simply repeated himself without addressing any of those points. At that point, people got tired of it. I mean we could have read the original post again if we wanted. So we started having fun.

juha
Senior Member

2752 Posts
3/05
Posted - Apr 5 2005 : 5:15AM
Which ceremony "really" matters is up to you.
It's your personal choice that you think that the gay ceremony is less worth than the straight one.
 
scipio
Senior Member

1901 Posts
2/00
Posted - Apr 5 2005 : 7:13AM
Well said, croy.

And because that's all it has done, and the fact that Hardware obviously locked the first one for a reason , I'm locking Part Deux, too.

I'd imagine that arthur-themed topic could be more productive if there was more of a discussion involved, rather than the stating and endless reiteration of inflexible absolutes regardless of others' reasoning.

If anyone has major issues with the lockage, feel free to email Steph who can override the mod's decisions if she so chooses.

scipio




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