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Den
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911 Posts
9/02
Posted - Jan 9 2005 : 11:16AM

Best New Starlet.......................Cytherea
Best Male Newcomer.....................Tommy Gunn
Female Performer of the Year...........Lauren Phoenix
Male Performer of the Year.............Manuel Ferrara
Female Foreign Performer of the Year...Katsumi
Male Foreign Performer of the Year.....Steve Holmes
Transsexual Performer of the Year......Vicky Richter
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Congrats to the winners and to all the nominees.

Den

Walter Burns
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Posted - Jan 9 2005 : 7:12PM
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gep
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210 Posts
6/03
Posted - Jan 9 2005 : 8:03PM
one simple question Walter:
what does "Performer of the Year" mean? Best or American?

and don't tell me "both"

squirtfan1
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8/04
Posted - Jan 9 2005 : 8:05PM
YES! Cytherea is one of my favs. The fountain of youth.[/code]
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Posted - Jan 9 2005 : 8:22PM
Hey, I was/am confused. Don't expect any sensible answer from me... erm... concerning this topic, I mean.



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infimum
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189 Posts
3/04
Posted - Jan 9 2005 : 8:55PM
Lauren Pheonix --- Canadian
Katsumi --- French

Enough said.

PL
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1726 Posts
10/03
Posted - Jan 9 2005 : 9:43PM
I'm happy Steve and Manuel won - Manuel is by far my favorite male talent/director.

As for Cytherea, I don't consider her new, but at least she won an award! She deserves it!

Actually that's a damn good list, but I don't know Tommy off the top of my head....

Linus TR fan
Member

318 Posts
11/03
Posted - Jan 10 2005 : 12:22AM
I don't have too many complaints on that list, it certainly isn't the load of crap that it seems to be most years. Not sure about Katsumi being the best foreign performer though, but eh you win some you lose some.
p_ramezap
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1549 Posts
5/03
Posted - Jan 10 2005 : 12:53AM
Well at least this time some of the awards are given to people who are worthy, Cytherea, Lauren Phoenix, Manuel and Steve.
I don't agree with Katsumi choice though. You have girls like Katia Kassin, Jane Darling, Bobbie Eden, Sandra Ramain ,Sharka Blue, Stacy Silver, and many more who have done great scenes who would be deserving of the award for best foreign female perfomer, how did Katsumi beat them to it?
Crucifixio_Jones
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4727 Posts
10/03
Posted - Jan 10 2005 : 2:09AM
Cytherea was really nervous and in tears when she came up to accept her award; it was like Sissy Spacek marching up to the podium to accept Prom Queen in Carrie , something very eerie about it to me for some reason. I can understand being emotional but man...she was REALLY emotional, shaking and crying and all. Maybe it was the shock of beating out favorite, Teagan. Katsumi seemed equally as emotional when accepting her award for Best Anal Scene with Lexington Steele in Lex Steele XXX 3.

Tommy Gunn's Best Male Newcomer award was announced on the big screen and he was only one table behind me. You should've seen his face. Total shock and amazement on his part. He was genuinely surprised and happy to have won.

As far as Manuel Ferrara and Steve "Poppa" Holmes...couldn't have happened to two nicer guys, I don't care what country they're from. Both were deserving winners.

a beautiful mind
Member

94 Posts
11/03
Posted - Jan 10 2005 : 2:58AM
Katja Kassin was truly robbed of the female performer of the year award; Jada Fire and Justin Slayer weren't even nominated for a single award; and can someone please tell me how Lex can win best anal scene with Katsumi, yet not receive at least a male performer of the year nomination?
arnie
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133 Posts
7/03
Posted - Jan 10 2005 : 3:30AM
I know it's a tough one, everyone's got their own opinions but you must admit Katsumi really deserves a trophy
Lee O
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1193 Posts
8/03
Posted - Jan 10 2005 : 4:17AM
Is there some sort of backlash against Teagan ? Because as cute as Cytherea is it'd be hard to argue that she's generated as much buzz this year as Teagan P . As to Manuel Ferrera being considered the best in the world but not better than Steve Holmes : does that make Steve the best ? Or is it Manu ? Or did they just want to give awards to two guys instead of one ? And Katsumi rocks - glad to see her getting her due .
Ghost Pro
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236 Posts
9/04
Posted - Jan 10 2005 : 4:34AM
Cytherea deserved her win 100%. The main reason Teagen was favored was the fact that Cy was up for two awards, Best New Starlet and Female Performer of the Year. I am almost certain she was the only performer on nominated in both catagories.

Congratulations to Cy and the rest of the winners.

Unfortunately, we didn't win for our catagory. Maybe next year!!! :)

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DVDwishes
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1060 Posts
7/04
Posted - Jan 10 2005 : 4:54AM
+1 for me on that; seems a bit shakey to me as well. everytime I turned around I was buying a DVD which had Katja performing some destructive and mind numbing anal scene, but no nomination. weird.

I won't even start on anything about JSP which is putting out the best black porn ever to be done hands down .

 
Ramsey
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10/02
Posted - Jan 10 2005 : 12:44PM
Lauren Phoenix is the only winner that makes sense.
2HOT2HANDLE
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437 Posts
11/04
Posted - Jan 10 2005 : 1:47PM
I think Manuel really deserves it! The passionate/energetic way he takes care about the girls reminds me a bit of Rocco.He's one of the rare guys who seems to pay more attention to the girl than to his dick!
oatmeal
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1738 Posts
8/04
Posted - Jan 10 2005 : 1:58PM
Did Cytherea resurrect or push the squirting genre into "mainstream?" Would they consider this in the voting?
Steve Holmes
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1235 Posts
12/02
Posted - Jan 10 2005 : 2:37PM
Manuel Ferrara and Lauren Pheonix live in America. Katsumi and I don't. Maybe that's why they put us in different categories.

Anyway, I'm very happy for myself and the other winners. The only winner which was clear from the beginning was Manuel. In his category only Michael Stefano comes close to him and he did win last year.

I wish everybody at the board a great 2005

Steve Holmes

Crucifixio_Jones
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10/03
Posted - Jan 10 2005 : 4:46PM
Katrina Kraven was given nods in those same two categories, Best New Starlet and Female Performer of the Year.
squirtfan1
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8/04
Posted - Jan 10 2005 : 6:26PM
Crucifixio_Jones, I love the trophy that you have around your arms in your new avatar. I am jealous. Lily Thai is awesome. I assume she was at this year's AEE.
AC Cream
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1066 Posts
5/04
Posted - Jan 10 2005 : 7:31PM
I am TOTALLY confused about these winners. It makes me think back to reading something about AVN getting more female voters involved. If I am remembering that correctly it may explain these STRANGE winners. Manual Ferrara, Steve Holmes, & Vicki Richter I have no major issue with. BUT Cytheria over Teagan? BULLSHIT!!!! I'm beginning to wonder why there is such a mistreatment of Teagan by the Porn Press. I'm in NO way saying bad things about Cytheria. She seems to be a really sweet girl, but take away the squirting and all you have is any other starlet. Lauren Phoenix just is an UNBELIEVABLE choice for Performer of the year. I really hoped it would be somebody more deserving. I've never seen her appeal and I don't see her holding that title well. I guess there could have been a worse choice, but that would only be giving it to somebody for simply doing unsafe crazy circus act stuff. As for Katsumi and Tommy Gunn I don't remember who else was nominated, but there had to be better choices. This brings me back to my original thought. More female voters is not a good thing. It appears they voted for Big Muscles & Big Dicks for the males then voted for Little Breasts & Little Sex Appeal for the females.

OH YEAH I'm still bringing the heat,

AC Cream

PL
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1726 Posts
10/03
Posted - Jan 10 2005 : 8:46PM
LOL WHO can be MORE deserving then Lauren?

And in my book, Cytherea out performed Teagen in every way. Yes Teagen is cuter, but Cy put more passion and enthusiasm
into her scenes. Well at least from this reviews stand point.


Oh and as for the "little breasts" comment, didn't Teagen have the same size (cup wise and PRE fake boobs) as Cytherea does?

Edited by - PL on 1/10/2005 8:49:34 PM

Harri Patel
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3/03
Posted - Jan 11 2005 : 12:39AM
It pains me to be thinking about and commenting on something as silly as porno awards, but, I'm bored, so here goes: it would have made a lot more sense to give the "new starlet" award to Teagan. Wasn't it exactly one year ago that everybody was hearing about her for the first time? She went from signing at last year's Vegas show as an unknown, with no movies yet released, to being on the covers of a bunch of gonzo videos, to getting a contract and having unnecessary plastic surgery, all within a year. Cytherea, it seems to me, has been around longer, and while she has been successful, hasn't had quite as impressive a career arc.
Brice P
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105 Posts
8/04
Posted - Jan 11 2005 : 1:15AM
Hmmm, I hope the Teagan brute squad on this forum doesn't jump all over me here, but I think Cytherea is a much better performer . Teagan may be the Britney Spears of the porn world, but other than that her scenes leave me limp.
 
tricia_devereaux
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Posted - Jan 11 2005 : 1:45AM
It was pretty fun at the EA booth on Sunday having Lauren and Vicki at the booth - they were both so jazzed!

I had told them both that I thought they were the favorites, and I meant it.

I am also thrilled for Manuel and Steve, who I think were great choices.

As for the others, well - I can't pick all the winners.

melissalauren
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834 Posts
2/04
Posted - Jan 11 2005 : 1:51AM
Lauren trully deserved to be performer of the year.
TeaganPresley
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1009 Posts
3/04
Posted - Jan 11 2005 : 3:55AM
I was so excited when Katsumi won Best Anal Scene & I think Lauren Pheonix deserved the award greatly.
AC Cream
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1066 Posts
5/04
Posted - Jan 11 2005 : 9:45AM
Speak the truth Harri.

"Cytheria is a hotter performer" SO she makes more obnoxious fake noises than Teagan. That award should go to the new female that made the biggest impact. Cytheria rode a niche(1 started and done better by others) to get to where she is. Teagan blasted out a bunch of hot ass Hardcore stuff then was offered a contract. Contracts are usually offered to females that have been around a little while. I'm glad to see Teagan posted in this thread and realizes that people are calling out that bullshit.

AC Cream

licker
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8/03
Posted - Jan 11 2005 : 10:12AM
Three out of the four most erotic scenes I saw last year were of Cytherea. She radiates pure sexual energy, and truly deserves her award.
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Edited by - licker on 1/11/2005 10:23:26 AM

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Posted - Jan 11 2005 : 1:14PM
AC, sure blame women voters because your personal choices were not awarded. So women who watch porn, probably a lot more porn than you watch, should not be allowed to vote in the AVN awards because they don't like what AC Cream likes. Whatever.
MLyons
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1617 Posts
8/02
Posted - Jan 11 2005 : 1:18PM
Amen, brother. You should have seen her at the expo. Lord have mercy.

Edited by - MLyons on 1/11/2005 1:20:10 PM

Kperv
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1818 Posts
1/04
Posted - Jan 11 2005 : 2:49PM
Impact?
I'm not knocking Teagan here, she's a very good looking girl. But exactly what impact has she had?

I haven't seen any of Teagan's movies so I can't comment on her performance, but doing a bunch of run-of-the-mill gonzo movies doesn't necessarily chisel your name into the minds of the masses.

I'd expect that Cytherea, with her 'niche' in general and the Squirtwoman titles in particular, has made herself known to more people than Teagan.
She wasn't first, but she did put squirting 'on the map' so to speak.

Also not that many of Teagan's contract titles have been released yet.

Going strictly by your own definition of impact being the most important, I'd have to say Cytherea wins it.
Which performer you or I prefer is not important here.

MLyons
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1617 Posts
8/02
Posted - Jan 11 2005 : 3:10PM
To me, Cytherea is much more than just about squirting... but perhaps I'm the only one who feels that way. It's somewhat unfortunate that her name has become synonymous with the act, when in truth she has so much more to offer than just that.

I fear that Tiana Lynn might be going down a similar path. She is so special in so many ways, but squirting alone is also fast becoming her primary marketing point.

It's yet another example of how under-utilized the incredible performers in this industry are.

Edited by - MLyons on 1/11/2005 8:11:56 PM

Lee O
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1193 Posts
8/03
Posted - Jan 11 2005 : 5:28PM
Both girls are fine , but not entirely my cup of tea . Based on boxcovers and online hype it seems pretty likely to me that Teagan is the more valuable girl . And far more widely known . Though if you're gonna use that criterea a contract girl would be the obvious choice . If you were trying to sell a movie you'd put what you considered your prize asset on the cover , right ? And the girl you thought would appeal to most punters . Teagan's been nearly ubiquitous this year on gonzo covers .

Put another way . If I had a movie I was trying to sell this year then Teagan would've been the first new girl name on the team sheet . Not personal preferance , just the way things are . As to performance ... I'm not foolish enough to dip my toe in that water ...

Shouldn't be allowed to drive either .
 
jewel denyle
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769 Posts
4/03
Posted - Jan 11 2005 : 7:11PM
Anyone who wins deserves it as we all work very hard in this industry and I'd like to congratulate all the winners.
skronker
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9/02
Posted - Jan 11 2005 : 7:32PM
Do you really mean that? The whole tone of your post seems calculated to spark some ruckus. But as much porn as you watch, you can't possibly dislike BOTH Manuel and Steve, can you? If anything, those choices reflect voters who like good, raw, flipped-on sex. And reflects also the influence the emergence of top European actors have had on the industry. If your theory was correct and the cliches held true, the winners would have been guys with more of a feature reputation.

Lauren, she's the best of both worlds. My personal choice? She's not Lauren, but Lauren was the single strongest girl with broad appeal who made a name in gonzo. If it had been Savanah Samson or Jesse Jane or someone like that, I'd complain or just say business as usual, but Lauren totally earned it. And I love small tits -- and Cytherea has had sensational scenes. Oh well -- glad we got to say hello, anyway.

licker
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8/03
Posted - Jan 11 2005 : 9:12PM
More information please . Did you get any pictures?
MLyons
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1617 Posts
8/02
Posted - Jan 11 2005 : 10:00PM
I did get a few pictures (not many though). I will post them soon. I'm sure others will have some pics as well. All I have to say is this:

Star pasties, and bondage.

::shudder::

p_ramezap
Senior Member

1549 Posts
5/03
Posted - Jan 12 2005 : 12:47AM
If anyone has doubts about why Cytherea won, just check out her scene in Third Degrees' What Gets You Off. She is a great performer, and I'm not just talking about her squirting ability. I think Teagan is a very cute girl with one juicy ass, but at the performance level, she is not as good as Cytherea, yet.

Jenna
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139 Posts
12/03
Posted - Jan 12 2005 : 12:56AM
Cytherea is in a league of her own. I did a scene with her in My upcoming film Burn... and she blew my friggin doors off. She was on par with Belladonna... Such passion!
She deserved her award, no doubt...

JJ

noahped
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2978 Posts
8/02
Posted - Jan 12 2005 : 1:54AM
Cytherea's got some moves too...she was working that pole inside the AVN convention! haha
jewel denyle
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769 Posts
4/03
Posted - Jan 12 2005 : 1:56AM
I was glad to see her win I nominated her for starlet this year and it was a win well deserved.
Lee O
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1193 Posts
8/03
Posted - Jan 12 2005 : 3:31AM
Somewhere Steve Holmes is grinning broadly !
Nice to see Steve get his due , he's always impessed me with the care he's shown for his partners . And Manuel's an impishly likable bloke .
christianx
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1883 Posts
9/04
Posted - Jan 12 2005 : 7:27AM
Teagan definitely should have won.....there is no question.....
Walter Burns
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Posted - Jan 12 2005 : 12:21PM
I am in no way interested in the pissing contest between the Cytherea and the Teagan fans, but I have to wonder about something here.
Kperv, you have stated yourself that you haven't seen any of the gonzos made by Teagan, yet you describe them as "run-of-the-mill". Am I correct to conclude that you believe that any gonzo is "run-of-the-mil"? And that, consequentially, features or contract work are not?




Harri Patel said:
"I suspect that this discussion is of even less interest to the great bulk of the ADT readership than most of the feet-related posts are of interest to me."
Kperv
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1818 Posts
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Posted - Jan 12 2005 : 12:28PM
Has that hype extended much beyond ADT? I'm asking, I don't know.
Are you sure?
Cytherea Iz Squirtwoman had her name in the title. Wouldn't that go a long way towards cementing her name in the minds of punters everywhere?
None of Teagan's covers had her name in the title.
True. But Teagan and Digital Playground haven't had much time to increase her fame yet.
Me neither. Especially as I have no basis to judge Teagan's performance on.

Either way, I'm just trying to explain why I think Cytherea winning could well be justified.
As I said I'm not knocking Teagan. She looks lovely. I may yet see her in a movie in the future.
I wouldn't have cried foul if she had won.

Kperv
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1818 Posts
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Posted - Jan 12 2005 : 12:44PM
Poor choice of words perhaps. But with the exception of "Weapons of Ass Destruction #3", none of the descriptions of movies featuring Teagan posted here on ADT, have made me expect them to stand much out from the crowd.
It wasn't a comment on her specific performance being run-of-the-mill, just that each movie as a whole was pretty quickly forgotten when the next volume in the series was released.
Not all. But their sheer number almost guarantees that a lot of them will be.
I'm definitely not saying that.
Without doing a detailed count, it's my expectation that the percentage of unremarkable features is in the same ball park as that of gonzo titles.
Tons of features are mindnumbingly dull. Both where the sex and the non-sex parts are concerned.

Gonzos often being series may actually make it harder for them to stand out. Making it even more remarkable when they do.
Judging by how many ADT'ers remember it fondly, WOAD3 is apparently one such title. Ass Worship 1&2 are others.

Walter Burns
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Posted - Jan 12 2005 : 1:13PM
No wait...

Keep your eyes open for a littlke post I am planning to make to the general forum. Look at '#10'.




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BigFerret
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1985 Posts
10/02
Posted - Jan 12 2005 : 1:28PM
Cheers to Steve Holmes--very deserving of his award.
Kperv
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1818 Posts
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Posted - Jan 12 2005 : 1:45PM
The idea I was desperately trying to get across (I wish I had the excuse of posting while intoxicated) was that it might be less likely for one specific volume out of a long running series to be remembered.
A title like "Space Nuts" ought to be easier to remember that "Bugger me gently #15" out of a series of 25. At least if you've also seen most of the others.
Quick, what volume of "North Pole" featured Teagan?
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