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freestylah
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Posted - Jan 5 2008 : 7:12PM
Indeed, great PR: "Yeah, we're the company that is responsible for the release of 'The Awakening of Sasha Grey'. So what? You wanna know when it'll hit the street? Haha, just wait a lil' longer, so we can push the hype to even higher levels."
If they wait just a bit longer, Sasha Grey is indeed yesterday's news. Keywords here are: addicted to attention and big company arrogance.
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Posted - Jan 6 2008 : 2:06AM
Ripping the company for the perfectionist tardiness of a subcontractor is impractically harsh, mein freund. Arrogance has naught to do with it, at least not on Evil Angel or Bella Donna's part. I also think if you've seen the trailer, the content should ensure the film ISN'T yesterday's news, even if (and you'd be in the minority here) you think Sasha's popularity is waning.
That said, would they have sold more if they had released it in November instead of in May 2008? Maybe. I have a feeling this will be a cult porn which is still earning everyone decent royalties in 2012.
freestylah
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Posted - Jan 6 2008 : 10:01AM
Rest assured that I do not consider Belladonna an arrogant director/actress.
However, Evil Angel as a company (and Tricia Devereaux as their spokesperson on this Forum) could look at their own role in this in a somewhat more critical way. As a customer, I'm not interested in 'perfectionist tardiness of a subcontractor'. Bollocks! Evil Angel is releasing this movie, hence I've expectations of Evil Angel. It says a lot about how a company is run, if they don't control their subcontractors. Keyword: responsibility. "Uh yeah, we don't know the release date of our own product. It's still being edited, I think/hope/believe."
Re. yesterday's news: you're probably correct. Most people on ADT are criticless admirers of the so-called 'new superstar' Sasha Grey and her overrated movies. Not me. Any royalties forthcoming are definitely not coming out of my wallet.

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I was going to vote for this poster as the next deactivated member. I was a tad slow on the draw.
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Posted - Jan 6 2008 : 10:03PM
I'm not trying to hype this movie at all. Not until there's a finished copy in the EA offices.
For the last 6 months or so, it's always been one of you who's brought it back up, and me trying to keep the 'excitement' under wraps.
Freestylah- You should come introduce yourself at AEE. I'd love to meet you, and you can explain to me in person how Evil Angel should make it's 'subcontractors' finish a movie before it's ready.
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Posted - May 31 2008 : 11:36AM
So, is this the Heaven's Gate or Southland Tales of adult film?
-And this isn't meant as a dig at Tricia or Evil Angel (I'm a fan of most of Belladonna's movies), I was just curious as to whether or not there's some kind of precedent for this in the adult film business.
When was The Awakening Of Sasha Grey initially scheduled for release?
kh
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Posted - May 31 2008 : 1:26PM
bella said in podcast interview that it would def be out this year - prob before sept. I think she said they have the trailer done. I would rather they focused hardcore on this than the other things they were working on.
Crucifixio_Jones
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Posted - May 31 2008 : 2:28PM
It's the Apocalypse Now of adult film...duh.
Now all we need is a Hearts of Darkness-like BTS and the comparison will be complete.
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Midnight Max
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Posted - May 31 2008 : 2:45PM
Dammit! I knew there was a big one I was forgetting. Hopefully, it ends up a more fitting comparison, too.
My brain-dead moments are occurring with alarming frequency.
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Posted - May 31 2008 : 2:56PM
After all this build up and delay, it's gonna be hard for people not to perceive it as a disappointment ... unless it's really, really freaking amazing.
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Posted - Jun 1 2008 : 2:10AM
Right now, I'm watching a softcore movie where Sasha Grey is getting it in the back room of a diner. She's determined to bag every guy Michelle Maylene's slept with, I think.
Just thought I should shout that out.
Edited by - The Fly Is Open on 6/1/2008 2:11:49 AM
vicg79
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Posted - Sep 28 2008 : 5:55PM
Any news on when this movie will be released?
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The twelfth of never.
 
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Posted - Sep 29 2008 : 12:27AM
Is no news good news? Maybe. On Bella's website, it says : This movie is in PRE-PRODUCTION. It's probably the longest pre-production movie ever made. But at least, fans can now enjoy a trailer and members of Bella's site pics too. I have the feeling we'll have to wait til 2009!
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Posted - Sep 29 2008 : 1:11AM
I don't think the freakin' Fashionistas finale took this long. I was really laying back on any comments for a long time, but this is truly ridiculous. It's a fucking porno ... Other than that wacky Tony T in a bear suit routine, I doubt there are any extravagant dance routines or German underground fetish parties to choreograph. I mean, they damn sure got that Alexis Texas feature out there while the buzz was happening for Alexis Texas. Unless they're still shooting new scenes for it and have changed their plan for the movie, I can't see any good excuse for why it's not out ... I mean, Sasha's "POTY" status expires in three short months. I would have thought they'd at least want to capitalize on that.
They do quality work, Bella and Aiden, but they have really dropped the ball on this one.
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Posted - Sep 29 2008 : 11:05AM
It's a fucking joke. I was pretty fired up about this 2 years ago. At this point in time, I couldn't care less. No offense to Sasha - she is still one of my faves, but I don't care if this sinks or swims, and apparently neither does Belladonna.
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Posted - Sep 29 2008 : 11:20AM
Chinese Democracy or Awakening of Sasha Grey which will be released first. I haven't followed to much of the buzz on this one but I know with Bella and Sasha involved it should be good but it does seem to be taking much longer than any dvd should unless there is a circumstance for it not being released we aren't privy to. Anything with the Fuck Junkie is worth a look for her fans so I do hope when it's finally released people will take a look with an open mind and not bash it just for taking so long to come out, I will take a look just because I like Bella and Sasha.
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Posted - Oct 20 2008 : 5:34AM
I fuckin LOVE Sasha!!! I have to work with her again. Shes slammin'!! LOL
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Posted - Oct 20 2008 : 5:34AM
I fuckin LOVE Sasha!!! I have to work with her again. Shes slammin'!! LOL
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valencia9
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Posted - Oct 20 2008 : 1:37PM
^
What scene did you work with her on Kelly? I'd like to see it.
This movie will be fantastic when it's released, I've no doubt. I'm waiting patiently for it
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Prom000
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Posted - Oct 22 2008 : 7:53PM
It comes out when its done.
I mean reallys not like the scene that where shot somehow change...
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Posted - Oct 22 2008 : 8:17PM
Nice yet uninformed and uneducated attempt at a reply.
Of course the end product doesn't change but that's not the point. Anyone who has ever released a movie or an album knows better.
It's about TIMELINESS.
Things age, become dated and become less relevant, moreso nowadays more than ever with cynical, jaded and fickle fans moving on to the next trend, style, sound or in this case, porn star, sooner than before and quickly lose interest.
That's why you have to release a project like this when a star is at the height of their popularity not when their momentum has had ample opportunity to lose steam.
Saying "it's done when it's done" isn't going to help this disc move more pieces when the porn world has already chosen it's next "it" girl and the sales suffer as a result.
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ma meeshka
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Posted - Oct 22 2008 : 8:29PM
GUESS WHAT GUYS!
Guns N Roses Officially Announce Chinese Democracy: Pre-Orders Start Today.
maybe this will be the soundtrack to the movie?
Crucifixio_Jones
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Posted - Oct 22 2008 : 8:39PM
I'll believe it when I'm illegally downloading it.
...
I'm joking, of course.
I don't listen to Guns N' Roses! (unless you count "November Rain." What can I say? I've got a thing for overly-long power ballads and the video is fuckin' bananas)
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Posted - Oct 22 2008 : 9:11PM
Crucifixio_Jones
You are right. From a sales point of view and to some extent in a way that porn also has its trends in what style, people and whatnot and trends change yes.
BUT
my reply was directed at anybody who is complaining about it. That just gets on peoples nerves.
I mean if you want to see the movie as fast as you can do something.

In my eyes the question right now is: Why hasnt it come out yet?
I mean after two years it should be a more indepth answer to that question.
If people in the know dont do that thats up to them, also that could hurt the business.
Right now, any news is news.
How about a online driven campaign?
Send as many bearcostumes as you can to Belladonna Entertainment?

tricia_devereaux
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Posted - Oct 22 2008 : 11:50PM
To which I answer:
Belladonna and Sasha Grey are TIMELESS. ;)
There is no reason one way or the other that this movie has been put on hold other than Aiden said it involved a lot more work editing-wise, and Belladonna got really excited about the other projects they were working on - including the Alexis Texas one, Foot Soldiers, Cock Pigs...
In all seriousness, I hardly think that Sasha has hit her peak, and with Belladonna co-hosting the AVN Awards and starring in Pirates 2, I don't think her fanbase is going to shrink over the next year.
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Posted - Oct 22 2008 : 11:55PM
^Tricia's in on it guys! I bet she's the driver!
Sexy and diabolical... what a combo...
Crucifixio_Jones
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Posted - Oct 23 2008 : 12:14AM
Well, that's just the answer one would expect from Evil Angel's paid spin doctor *cough* I mean, PR person about a movie of theirs.
I won't say that either Belladonna or Sasha Grey's fanbase has or will shrink considerably by the time this comes out, whenever that may be (Belladonna's hasn't EVER and I don't feel like Sasha's is dwindling...but we aren't talking about hardcore, loyal 'net fans like the people who post here, I'm talking about Joe the Plumber worked-all-day, just-renting-a-movie "casual" fans) but I will say that people who aren't DIRECTLY CONNECTED to Belladonna or Sasha Grey in some way will beg to differ with Tricia Devereaux's "timeless" assessment. Though it was a cute play-on-words and playful attempt at light humor about a slightly embarassing situation.
But then again, anyone else fortunate enough to be sitting on such a hot project probably would've made some sort of effort to ensure it got released by now. I understand things get pushed back in all fields of entertainment some times and you can't put a gun to an artist's head but damn, you can't deny that what I say above about timeliness (which has ZIP to do with popularity or anyone's fanbase) is any less true. I definitely stand by that and I believe this movie would've been better served by being released around the time when Sasha was making her march towards being Female Performer of the Year instead of nearly a year (or MORE) after the fact, regardless of how popular she or Belldonna remain or whether or not her buddies think she's hit her peak yet.

cross.gifEdited by - Crucifixio_Jones on 10/23/2008 12:28:24 AM
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Posted - Oct 23 2008 : 12:19AM
Oh, I don't imagine even in the slightest that either Bella or Sasha will experience anything but an increase in popularity in the coming year. Bella's already established herself as a modern classic of porn stardom ... the Alt.Jenna in my book, and with titles like Girl Train, she makes even as moribund a sub-niche as the lesbo flick feel fun and exciting and downright kooky. Plus, who can resist those Michel Ducaroy sofas? If for no other reason than fun decor that defeats the dreaded "yellow couch effect"?
Still, and all, if you're going to promote a movie and tell people it's coming out in the near future and then nothing happens after two years, it's kinda weird. Fans got real excited about it. To not deliver the product after such a stretch is worse than a tease. It's kind of cruel. Are we being dommed? What happens when we start topping from the bottom? Or is this actually some kind of kinky game? Is someone jerking off while we rant and whine?
Edited by - skronker on 10/23/2008 12:27:45 AM
ChodeMasterJ
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Posted - Oct 23 2008 : 12:32AM
^^ +1
^ +1
I probably would have bought this a year or two ago, but now I'm not really interested in it anymore. It took waaaay to long to come out.
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Posted - Oct 23 2008 : 12:47AM
I'm even more interested ... and I've said my piece. This is some Terrence Malick level procrastination ... though.
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Posted - Oct 23 2008 : 12:59AM
It's all of you who keep bringing it up.
When it was still on the release schedule, it was on the Evil Angel site. Since then, I've never once mentioned it except when someone asks about it. It's not like I'm purposely being some kind of cock tease with it.
Yea, CJ. I'm Evil Angel's spin doctor. I get paid really well for that task, but there was no spinning here. I meant every word I said. Who would I rather have starring in a movie? A person who just won Female Performer of the Year? That would be pretty good. But a girl who's still getting more popular and is getting mainstream press? Even better.
Hell, a year ago you couldn't be bothered to listen to me sing Sasha's praises. Since them you finally jumped on the bandwagon. Like I said, even the most hardcore porn fans are still liking her more and more.
 
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And isn't that a GOOD thing? I mean, how much is there really to talk about in porn that is basically positive right now? Think of TAOSG as that new iPhone or Blackberry model on the horizon. Think about sales in a flagging economy. Think about something rad in a dishwater dull world. Why wouldn't we bring it up? You think Saw 5 is gonna do the trick?
Tricia, your people are hungry. We thirst. We cry out for deliverance. At least we're not bugging you about the Fashionistas anymore ... Oh. But, wait ... what about the Blu-Ray Box Set?
I'm getting more double bock 8.5% to guzzle.
And I'm getting a Blu-Ray player next month . Dreams never die ...

Edited by - skronker on 10/23/2008 1:11:02 AM

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Posted - Oct 23 2008 : 1:36AM
Skronker,
Actually, there was a choreographed dance routine shot during the filming of "The Awakening of Sasha Grey." Whether or not you consider it extravagant is up to you.



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Posted - Oct 23 2008 : 1:59AM
^I remember seeing that when Bella put it on Youtube, on November 2 2006. I'd long since forgotten about it.
Without sounding too critical of a movie which I'm sure will be awesome, I think this is kinda the point everyone's trying to make. At some point, it's just not going to be interesting anymore. No matter how good it is.
If I'd heard of the original iPod when it came out, saw commercials for it, all that jazz, but then never actually seen one until today... well, with all the other great mp3 players that have come out since, it really wouldn't be all that interesting to me at all.
Sasha has performed many, many times since then (ostensibly getting better all the time), and Bella has directed many, many times since then (again, ostensibly getting better all the time) - so how good can this movie be in comparison to many of their other flicks that we've seen that have been made more recently than this one?
The original iPod was fucking mind-blowing when it came out, and it will stand the test of time in terms of great audio innovations. But it ain't shit when you're holding an iPod Touch in your hands.
Oh, and here are some more [ invalid url ].
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Edited by - killbillvol69 on 10/23/2008 2:00:26 AM
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Posted - Oct 23 2008 : 9:11AM
When you say "all of you" I hope you're excluding me. Because while I certainly dig Sasha's personality and eventually came around on her onscreen performances, I've never sweated the release of this or many other movies. I think we all know you're not intentionally teasing anyone with this movie but I guess this incident should serve as a lesson for everyone in any business: don't start promoting something until you either have a finished product in your hands or can guarantee an at least somewhat timely release. I think we can ALL agree that two years is far from timely.
Sasha's been getting mainstream press since Day One so that's nothing new. The fact that she's getting a different variety lately isn't indicative of her popularity. They aren't linked as much as you'd like to think or spin it. In fact, (and I'm not saying this is true of Ms. Grey) the vast majority of the "porn stars" we see in the mainstream are also the most reviled by the people who actually buy porn. So you can't really point to "mainstream press" as proof of her alleged growing popularity. I don't think popularity is something you can "prove." The mainstream press and her having already won Female Performer of the Year at this point are merely coincidences but I don't think they'll have much effect on the reception of this movie since, as I stated, she was already in the public eye from the start and her winning an AVN award isn't all that big a deal in the eyes of most consumers. It's her putting on the performances that led to AVN actually taking notice that they care about. I'll give Sasha all the credit in the world for remaining more consistent than some past winners but her output this year, at least it feels like it to me, has dropped compared to her first two years in the business.
cross.gifEdited by - Crucifixio_Jones on 10/23/2008 9:16:04 AM
tricia_devereaux
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Posted - Oct 23 2008 : 12:52PM
LMAO. You're fuckin' going to drive me to drink... Oh wait, I do that anyway.
So, are drinks on you at the Circle Bar?
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Posted - Oct 23 2008 : 1:37PM
Donald Petrie's Fashionistas will be on the big screen before we ever see Stagliano's Fashionistas box set released.
I waited on that elusive box set for a long time, too. I didn't buy the 2nd or 3rd movies because I was waiting on the box set that we were originally told would come out in January, 2007.. I ended up renting the 2nd one but have never bothered to watch the 3rd, and have gradually lost interest. TAOSG is in the same boat. I put movies on my informal wish list. The longer they sit there, the further they get pushed to the bottom as I add more and more things to the top until eventually I just lose interest, anticipation, and no longer care to send my money that direction.
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Posted - Oct 23 2008 : 4:07PM
Actually, our first peek at what me and Skronker (I forget who between the two of us actually coined the term) affectionately deemed the "Sasha Bear" came on October 17, 2006 on Bella's website (it was unceremoniously tacked onto the end of the trailer for the first "Dark Meat"). I found it so hilarious I even rocked a Sasha Bear avatar for a good while...like I swore I would after nearly suffering internal bleeding laughing so hard at Bella shaking her ass in that damn suit.
avatar-sashabear.jpg"Remember me, motherfuckers???"
Man, those were the days. We were all so young and innocent then. So, so so much has changed...
cross.gifEdited by - Crucifixio_Jones on 10/23/2008 4:14:49 PM
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Posted - Oct 23 2008 : 4:24PM
The amazing part (after just watching it again right now for fun) is that even through the suit, you can tell that Belladonna has a great ass. Wow.
As a side note, I wonder how much one of those suits would set a brother back. I can think of tons of hilarious things I could do with one of those (none sexual, in case anyone's interested in the inner workings of my mind).
As a second side note, anyone know who made the music? If Aiden or Bella did, that's pretty good for amateur stuff.
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you can borrow my copy of F3 ... it's good!
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Weep for our shattered innocence.
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Haha ... maybe the first one ... I'm looking for a new job.
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Ahh... well then you buy me the first and I'll buy you the second. :)
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Deal.
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I would advise bothering to watch the 3rd. Like, now.
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Posted - Oct 24 2008 : 3:11AM
I've been so confused not to see anyone else talk about this, but glad to see I am not the only one who has noticed it. Her new movie Anal Acrobats 3 looks promising though. I really have no interest left in the Awakening of Sasha Grey either, to be honest. Bella has directed Sasha in so many scenes since then, chances are...the movie would not meet anyone's expectations and would be a disappointment.
I just hope she doesn't go completely soft like almost all the porn girls who get a little bit of work in mainstream and only think Hollywood.
Edited by - ExtremeGonzoFan on 10/24/2008 3:12:06 AM
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Posted - Oct 24 2008 : 11:38AM
I think Belladonna is waiting for right moment for launching 'The Awakening of Sasha'. Maybe with the suggestion in mind Sasha will accept a big studio contract one day. (Hope not soon) There are a lot similar movies with Sasha on her dirtiest. When the moments arrives that there will be less Sasha-dirty-energy, Belladonna will release The Awakening en than there will be the ultimate Sasha flick.. For the fans as a collectors-edition, and for Belladonna the sky-rocking sales-movie..
Just my opinion
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