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| Keith_1 Member 66 Posts 3/05 |  Posted - Jul 1 2011 : 11:18PMNot sure if this is the correct place but since it is a device I am posting here. Anyone ever try this water penis pump called bathmate? If so, how has it been and do you recommend it? Discuss. Topic Moved by - astroknight on Jul 9 2011 [Link] |
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| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | Posted - Jul 29 2011 : 4:56PM But they have a deal with mattersofsize.com who sell it at a discount. I've seen loads of threads with loads of info on it. 2 problems I've noticed: Defects, and poor customer service. I see lots of threads where the guy is waiting weeks for a response-even though bathmate (the company) comes on that forum. Also seen lots of mild injuries with it, most appear at the base, like on scrotum, etc. Water blisters, stuff like that. Anyway, go to that site before you buy, probably the best place to research it. Also-I see lots of guys get the wrong size (they talk about trading it in later), there is the hercules and the goliath, i forget which one is the bigger one but it seems most need that. And while you are there-study up, lots of good info on PE (Penis Enlargement) there. I've learned a lot there and increased my girth (circumference) about 1.2", which is a lot, in less than 2 months. I've increased length too-but did neither with bathmate or any other pump. Good Luck [Link] |
| angryassdrummer Member 559 Posts 3/11 | Posted - Jul 29 2011 : 9:10PM you have increased the girth and length of your penis? sounds like spam emails i get daily is there for real? if so, details baby details [Link] |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | Posted - Jul 29 2011 : 9:39PM I gained about 1/2" in about 4 months. So see... it ain't easy. Girth is very easy, or it was for me. And personally, regardless of what some women say, I believe most women care more about girth (assuming you are at least 5 inches long). I gained that girth with jelqing and got most of it the first month. That one isn't as hard-about 20 minutes in the shower and you can make your dick look pretty huge. You do this for about 6 months and it will be permanent. Speaking of that, extenders ARE permanent also-I quit it all of a sudden after about 4 1/2 months and haven't lost a millimeter. Again, if you want to learn about this, I recommend a penis enlargement site called mattersofsize.com. There are others, but most of them are more like junior high school clubs. This one is the best. You'll find a mountain of info there-how to increase length and girth with your hands. As well as with devices, devices DO work. This ranges from hanging (hanging weights from your dick-sounds scary, but lots of guys have done this with no injuries, and it's the original way to penis enlarge going back centuries), clamping (this is a girth thing and there are many hand exercises that also use similar principles), and again stretching devices like the one I mentioned, all day extenders (which are fun anyway for going out to a bar-really shows off your cock), pumps, etc. Just go to the web site, you'll see-it's beyond possible, lots of guys are doing it RIGHT NOW. And it's fun to enlarge it while with a woman to see her reactions. I also tend to use a cock ring during sex now for much of it, to enlarge it even further-I can get my girth to almost 7" with a cock ring and kegeling. Let me know if you have any more questions-but I have nothing to gain by lying, I sell real estate, I don't sell penis devices-I just use them. [Link] |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | Posted - Jul 29 2011 : 9:45PM Stretchers are pretty simple in principle: Think of those Africans that get a plate in their lip. They do it by PUSHING their body to the limits-the body then reacts by splitting cells-so you actually have your body adding more cells to handle the stress it is being put under. You can stretch arms, ears, lips, neck, AND penis.... same principle. Girth isn't that much different-instead of a device, you're actually using your own blood to stress the blood chambers of the penis. Technique is important, you can get injuries if you get overzealous or careless. But the risk is pretty minimal, you can mess up your dick being stupid having sex too right? I have never had an injury myself. [Link] |
| angryassdrummer Member 559 Posts 3/11 | Posted - Jul 29 2011 : 10:48PM assumed it was all just a myth one question......what is jelqing? i wouldnt mind more girth, then again i wouldnt mind more length either...who would say no to being bigger? [Link] |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | Posted - Jul 30 2011 : 12:03AM There are other exercises too, like 60 second clamping... this is very easy and a newbie can do it: You get a full (100%) erection, then kegel, to bring MORE blood into it, and clamp it off at the base, continuing to kegel as necessary. Should be all engorged, showing veins and ribs. Then you hold this engorged state for about 60 seconds... then rest a few minutes, repeat a few times. This is called a "ULI". Lots of other exercises but this is a very good base to begin with and you'll have girth gains doing this. [Link] |
| CaseyJ New Member 5 Posts 8/11 | Posted - Sep 1 2011 : 4:55PM 3-5 sets of 5-10 min water pumping, alternated with 5-10 min of clamping. After each set, I increase pressure for the next a little bit, progression is key. Start sessions with 5 min of jelqing, and finish with 5 min. Works wonders for me. I've been very on/off, undisciplined with my 'workouts' the last year, but I've gained almost an inch in girth in that time frame. Girth went from 5 to 5.8 inches. Only 1/3" in length, but then again I haven't done any specific length work, and I'm pretty satisfied with my approx 6.3 inches. Consider yourself lucky if you already have a decent length, girth work is much more pleasant to do than pulling your penis, in fact I see it more as pleasure, than work. I can see more and more are appreciating the Extender tools out there, so who knows I might try it out just to experiment. Manual stretching is a bitch though. Anyways Clamping is the KING of quick girth gains, if you're doing a couple of 5 min sets, an hour before intercourse, you will be temporary 1/4 - 1/2 inches thicker the rest of the evening. However to cement gains, you gotta be somewhat consistent, and mix techniques & methods up in your program. Just sharing my experience :) [Link] |
| laikike1 Member 173 Posts 6/11 | Posted - Sep 20 2011 : 9:02AM [Link] |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | Posted - Sep 21 2011 : 11:18PM Just sayin'. [Link] |
| CaseyJ New Member 5 Posts 8/11 | Posted - Sep 26 2011 : 10:32AM What are you talking about dude. Just because that's my routine now, it doesn't mean that it's the only thing method that has given me gains. I've used clamping only in periods, and same goes for pumping & clamping (talking 4-5 week periods, the amount of time you need in order to judge gains, although sometimes it happens faster). What I've found out like many others, is that a combination is the ticket to the fastest gains. Did I grow when doing the respective routines isolated? Yes definitely, did I grow as much? No. The reason I believe the Bathmate is a key to faster gains, is the increased bloodflow I get to work with when doing jelqs & clamping afterwards. Another important factor, is the increased kegel sensation you get in the BM, my kegel sessions while pumping, are much more intense & effective than when doing kegels (training the PC muscle) without it. Kegels = increased blood-flow (and other things). After 5 min in the BM, I get much more expansion, and as a result when I clamp, my clamp-girth is much bigger than if I clamp without pumping first (and no it's not fluid expansion, you very quickly learn the difference between fluid build up & increased bloodflow when pumping). Also the post-girth 5-10 hours later is significantly bigger if I do both clamping & jelqing, than if I only did one of the two. In fact the first 8-9 months I only did jelqing + clamping, and I only grew girth, after I added the bathmate I grew more in girth and a little bit in length. Don't imply anything on my behalf, when you don't know about my background, I only voiced what I'm doing now because that's what works the best for me. As for scientific proof, I can't prove either that kegels, clamping or jelqing in fact work, how could I prove that to you? All the proof I need, is the reactions I get from my girlfriend every time I gain size, and of course the measuring tape, which is a pretty big deal, if you believe in numbers. I could give a damn if you believe me, but if anyone else got something useful out of my post, I'm happy because that's all I wanted to do. PE has improved my sex-life so much, and I hope it will help many others too. Cheers. PS: I encourage anyone, to NOT buy the Bathmate right away, find a routine with simply, free techniques, and then decide after a few months, if you're willing to spend cash on adding new tools, it all depends on your goals & dedication. [Link] |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | Posted - Sep 26 2011 : 7:52PM I'll reiterate my point since you blindly took it as a personal attack. Please read it this time, and if I'm wrong-show me regarding the point, and don't make it personal, it's unnecessary and immature. My point is that with an ADS, or Extender, or Pump (water or air), etc.... the ONLY way to know if you got ANY actual gains is if you ONLY do that device, exercise, whatever. For example, On MOS, it's very difficult to find anyone that JUST uses an extender. If they are combining it with manual stretching, jelqing, etc.... They could be putting their dick in a vice for 4-6 hours a day for no reason for all they know. Now I DO believe extenders work, even wikipedia says so. Also, as I gained from them myself. But the point was-for a while on MOS, I think I was the only guy that had ONLY done an extender routine for more than 6 months without doing anything else. By isolating the exercise, device, pill, etc.... you CAN find out if it works or not. This is all the more true with "Bathmate" which is quite new. Some guys swear by it. But I will also say that for every 1 man that says it's great, I see at least 20 posts about injuries from it and breakage (it's clearly flawed or they wouldn't have so many returns). I would compare bathmate to MaleEdge. Male Edge is the best CONCEPT for an extender, but unfortunately, Jes Mueller designed it to be made of pretty cheap plastic. So... once you get to the 6 hour a day routine, and add tension of 2000g or more, that fucker is gonna snap within 2 weeks. I don't know if bathmate works, I haven't used it (mostly due to the 20 to 1 ratio of poor feedback) but I don't think anyone who hasn't isolated the product and scientifically tracked their gains would know either. If you are doing several things in your routine, basic logic (again) says you too don't know for sure. And regarding the clamped increase, I do not see that as proof of anything other than what all pumps promise: Short term gains. Now that is an OPINION, I'm not calling you a liar. I simply disagree with you. You MUST isolate a variable to prove what it does or does not do. And the scientific method doesn't say "look for some proof and then believe it." No, it says try to disprove your theory-which means that you'd have to try to isolate JUST the bathmate to prove what you say to be true. And the burden of proof is always on the positive statement, not the negative (disbelief) statement. I'm simply saying I don't see any science in your claim. However, nice to have a fellow PE'er on here-it's highly likely we know each other on another forum, heck, maybe we're even friends. [Link] |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | Posted - Feb 2 2012 : 5:02AM [Link] |
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