Hardz
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|  Posted - Jul 14 2002 : 12:20PMAs most of you should know, BEAUTIFUL GIRLS #4 is an awesome classic. But now for the bad news .....BEAUTIFUL GIRLS # 5 is not even average.
To add insult to injury, the main reason I got this disc is because the back cover shows not one but two images of a reverse anal cowgirl and rac with gape.
Is this scene in the film ?
NO!
Is it in the extra footage ?
No! This sucks!!!!!  [Link] |
Speelie
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Fort Collins, CO
1191 Posts
5/01
| Posted - Jul 14 2002 : 1:38PM
We must have different taste in things, because so far, I like BG5, but I found Hardball 17 really disappointing. BG5 has Sharon so desperately horny that three guys can't satisfy her, then it has delicious teasea nd stripping from Lenka, followed by the always watchable Sylvia Lancome. Nicole is a good up and cummer, and then it was fun to see Tarzzan get so physical (not rough, just energetic) with Nikky Reed that she couldn't fake her way through the scene as in other movies. So it wasn't as good as BG4, but I still liked BG5 a lot.
As to Hardball 17, well, Cindy Cox is badly made up, and I didn't like how most angles hid her pony tail, making her hair seem unattractively short. Her scene with Clark was too short, though the bonus footage made up for this a bit. Myli was really good in her scene, which I found the best of the movie. I don't like Caroline DeJaie at all, and Tiffany/Blondie in the same scene didn't get to show any personality. I hope she is better in XXX Road Trip #2 (she's featured on the front cover). There's nothing wrong with the Sandra scene, but it is repetitive of her other scenes in other movies. And the final part with Cindy (now without black dye in her hair) and the other two just bored me. If Cindy had been more involved, I might have liked it better. So I found Hardball 17 to basically be Clark burning off a bunch of his boring/repetetive scenes, and I didn't much care for it.
These are just my opinions, Hardz, I'm not saying at all that you are wrong. We obviously enjoy different things in Clark's work. I know plenty of people read my reviews for this site, and wonder, "What the heck is Speelie thinking, and why does he go off on those odd tangents?" I always keep in mind how many people loved Matador 10, which was not at all to my taste. Different stroking for different folks! [Link] |
Hardz
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| Posted - Jul 14 2002 : 3:22PM
What about the missing footage ?You're quite right, we do look for different things.
Christoph Clark has a formula that works for me and that's why I expect 'repetitive' scenes that have been done before. (Thats why I buy his stuff, so I can see more of the same). I did love MATADOR # 10. [Link] |
Speelie
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Fort Collins, CO
1191 Posts
5/01
| Posted - Jul 15 2002 : 1:03AM
I don't worry about the missing footage because it often isn't really "footage." Think of the behind the scenes part of BG4. They showed Jean-Michel taking the still photos, as the various tangled bodies would hold still and pose. On the boxcover and in the gallery, it looks like the photos were taken in the heat of action, but in fact they were posed, not action moments.
BG5 doesn't have the behind the scenes moments, but I imagine the photos on the box were also taken in staged, posed moments, so the missing action quite possibly never occurred.
Tricia D. has explained before that EA tries their best to now show stills that don't reflect the actual content, but they do make mistakes with this from time to time. When they get so many other aspects of DVD production right, I can forgive the occasional lapse here. Addendum : I'm confused. I dug out my BG5 case, and rechecked the actual DVD. On the back of the case I can't find any reverse cowgirl anal gapes, though I do see one regular cowgirl anal gape from Natalka/Lenka. While that exact moment is not in the movie, the main (not extra) footage does have her briefly gaping while riding anal cowgirl (she still has on nylons, unlike in the still), as well as having a more extensive gape sequence when she rides reverse anal cowgirl. None of the other photos on the box show any gaping, in any position. Nikki Reed is shown riding reverse anal cowgirl in one still, and the main movie indeed contains a long sequence of this, so the box doesn't seem mis-representative.
Edited by - speelie on Jul 15 2002
Edited by - speelie on Jul 15 2002 [Link] |
qrop
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163 Posts
8/01
| Posted - Jul 15 2002 : 1:53AM
Speelie one question. when was the last time somebody here in ADT made a complaint about an Anabolic or Private DVD not showing in the actual movie what they saw shown on the DVD case? honestly I don't remmenber any. Now if those Porn Companies can avoid those "occasional lapses" why Evil Angel can't do the same ..besides those "occasional lapses" are happening too often lately and unlike you, some people buy their porn for what they see on the DVD case.[Link] |
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Speelie
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Fort Collins, CO
1191 Posts
5/01
| Posted - Jul 15 2002 : 12:16PM
I could make plenty of complaints about Private putting images on the box that aren't in the movie. I don't have my cases nearby, but I'll edit this later to add some examples. Meanwhile, in the case at hand, it seems that the action on the box to BG5 IS in the movie.
I'm back. I was thinking mainly of the Madness project, and sure enough, Madness 2 has images on the front that are from the first part, especially a shot of Agnes/Suzy Sweet. If you get the movie to see her, you'll be disappointed. The back of the same movie has Melody Kord getting doggy analled, and this isn't found in the VHS version. I was annoyed at the time, but that footage was restored in the DVD.
Riviera 2 features Christiane de Nerville (aka Nannes Beaumont) in two photos on the front cover, but her sex scenes in this series are all in part 1. Other Private titles such as Matador 9 have stills, with the women looking into the still camera, that aren't found in the movie.
I also found an Anabolic example. On the back of Up Your Ass 14 (and also found in the photo gallery) is a shot of Mercedes (from the last scene) getting doggy fucked by Mr. Marcus while blowing Lex. I loved this image, and serached the movie a couple of times to find it, but it didn't make the actual cut.
So these things do happen even with Private and Anabolic, but I really don't consider them more than a minor problem.Edited by - speelie on Jul 15 2002 [Link] |
tricia_devereaux
Evil Angel DVD
Patience is a virtue, but who wants to be virtuous?
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| Posted - Jul 15 2002 : 4:35PM
thanks for the posts, Speelie.
I didn't bother responding because I HAVE replied to this before.
Other companies aren't doing SIMULTANEOUS DVD/VHS releases as much as Evil Angel is, so they have more time to go back and forth between the art department and editing (if that's what they do...). At Evil Angel, very often, the movie gets finished with editing, and IMMEDIATELY goes to the DVD department. On the other end, the art department picks the pictures that go on the box cover. By the time the box cover is finished at the graphics company, the editor is well in to his next project, and since he originally saw the footage, he might see the pictures on the boxcover, and might not remember whether it made the final cut or not.We're doing our best to avoid mistakes in pictures on the boxcovers. I myself have not seen any of Beautiful Girls 5. I just wanted you all to know that whether I respond to posts or not, if the title of the thread includes the name Evil Angel, Tricia, or any of Evil Angel's movies, I read it, and pass the comments on to the appropriate people. I thought that John Stagliano's recent discussions with the person who picks Christoph's boxcovers would have all but taken care of mistakes. I myself talked to that person and Christoph's editor again today. Let's just hope that the BG5 cover was just a mistake. Keep on posting. [Link] |
Hardz
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6/01
| Posted - Jul 16 2002 : 5:16AM
Speelie, I should have said anal cowgirl (not reverse).
But the scene in question is not in the film.[Link] |
