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AlexPanzer
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Posted - Apr 3 2008 : 8:55PM
What is the best free operating system for general computing?
nietzsche
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Posted - Apr 4 2008 : 2:38AM
Linux.
nietzsche
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Posted - Apr 4 2008 : 2:39AM
Linux is the only decent free operating system that I know of. You won't find a lot of programs for it, but I don't know what you need. If you are a gamer, it will be useless.
Jacco All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Apr 4 2008 : 4:16AM
Plenty of programs available for Linux, most of those are free too. I've been using Linux at home for nearly 10 years now and in the office for nearly 5 years.
I am not a gamer, but I thought most gamers use consoles these days anyway.
Jacco
nietzsche
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5470 Posts
8/03
Posted - Apr 4 2008 : 10:28AM
Wel there are plenty yes, but practically every program on the planet has a Windows port, but that is nowhere near the case for Linux.
 
RandomPrecision
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3/06
Posted - Apr 4 2008 : 11:55AM
Yep. Puts me at a dead stop when I see that a lot of programs I love and use constantly aren't available for Linux. If Windows didn't come with my system and I actually needed a new OS, I might be more inclined to go with Linux because the cost for Windows is excessive. I don't mind paying for an OS but MS sells enough copies of Windows that they could easily afford to sell it for a more reasonable price.
Jacco All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Apr 4 2008 : 3:02PM
Unless you need professional video-editing or CAD or so I would say there is a Linux program for everything else.
In the office we have only one or two Windows machines left, the rest is Macs (can't beat those for video and graphics) and Linux.
Jacco
Dave_K99
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497 Posts
12/07
Posted - Apr 4 2008 : 4:37PM
I've used Linux for years on a secondary PC, and I've chucked together cheap Linux PCs for friends/relatives who just want to get online, but I still stick with Windows because of its applications.
Just today I had to fill in a couple of application forms in MS Word's document format. Neither would open 100% correctly in OpenOffice 2.4. With one the problems were fairly subtle, but the other was more complex and ended up a total mess. Even if I reformatted the document in OO, there's no guarantee that it'd still be OK when exported and opened in an actual version of Word.
I can't really demand that my prospective employers provide the documents in another format, and sending them a form with messed up formatting isn't likely to impress them...
Then there are the images in Photoshop's native format that I get from other digital photography enthusiasts. I haven't even looked to see if they'll open in GIMP, I doubt very much that things like layers would be preserved.
I like Linux, but not enough to faff around trying to get all my Windows software running on it. In my experience that often doesn't work too brilliantly, especially when I need the software to be up to date.
It's a shame, if nothing else I'd like to save a bit of money, but like a lot of other people I'm locked in to Windows thanks to the popularity of certain commercial apps.
BadKarma
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Posted - Apr 5 2008 : 3:27AM
Not to but in, but you can get the best of both worlds with virtualization.
I run Linux AND Window Apps by using either Xen or VMWare on Linux. In my
case I use CentOS (a RedHat derivative) Both Xen and VMWare work great for
most if not all Windoz applications that I use. Note that I try to avoid
any Micro$oft product like the plague. In my experience there is always a
capable free equivalent to any Micro$oft product I can think of.
Xen is free, as in beer, and VMWare is a commercial (i.e., costs money)
product.
Now, one small point, Linux gets all the press, BUT FreeBSD is a rock-solid
free OS. A lot of ISPs run their servers on BSD. I have a FreeBSD server
running Apache. It just works.
Enjoy life, use a Macintosh.
RandomPrecision
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3/06
Posted - Apr 5 2008 : 5:50PM
Well, I'm completely stupid when it comes to this particular issue but if they really want Linux to be successful, I don't understand why they can't figure out a way to make it compatible with all of the most popular software out of the box. Only geeks are going to mess around and tweak and MAKE things work. Everyone else is just going to stick with Windows. Even if they're not really that thrilled with it.
nietzsche
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Posted - Apr 5 2008 : 6:43PM
It's not up to the creators of the OS to do that, it's the people who write the programs. They are the ones with access to the code.
BadKarma
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Posted - Apr 5 2008 : 9:11PM
Very true.
And in Microsoft's case they have access to both the source code for the OS, AND the source code for their applications (e.g., MS Office).
BTW, I'm proud to be a 'geek'. I can spend my free time being a 'porn connoisseur' and not trying to make my computer work ;-)
RandomPrecision
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Posted - Apr 7 2008 : 2:05AM
I wasn't putting geeks down. Geeks are cool But I know I'm not smart enough to be a geek so I gravitate towards software that does almost all the technical stuff for me.
jrv
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Posted - Apr 14 2008 : 3:39PM
More important than having the source code is that Microsoft can change the rules at will - if anyone makes an OS run XP apps well, then the next OS might be different. That's why Windows isn't nearly as Windows-compatible as it used to be - too many people getting too close to figuring out the API.
"general computing" is too broad a term. Linux has more apps; FreeBSD is more stable, OpenBSD is more secure. There isn't a simple answer: Yahoo! used to (and may still) use Linux for development but FreeBSD on deployed servers (i.e. www.yahoo.com).
I use a Mac exclusively now, which is an Apple-proprietary GUI atop a unix/FreeBSD kernel grafted-onto/atop a Mach core. The only Windows program I still use regularly (within VMware/Fusion) is Quicken, and there is an OSX version now.
RandomPrecision
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Posted - Apr 30 2008 : 2:10PM
So. I finally downloaded Ubuntu (the last version not the one that was just released) and gave it a try.
I did really like the fact that you can run it from a CD (although it's a little slllloooow). It actually worked a lot better out of the box than I expected it to. The thing that bothered me most was not having all the applications that I've become accustomed to using over the years. I was just lost without Irfanview. I spend a lot of time on pictures. While Linux might have a photo viewer available that's comparable to Irfanview, I've found that even Windows-based image viewers that purport to be comparable to Irfanview might do most of the same things but they still aren't Irfanview.
It was just fine for web browsing (Thanks to the inclusion of Firefox). I will probably try the new version of Ubuntu when I get around to it but unless the improvements are absolutely stellar, I think they still have a ways to go.
Having said that, I think everyone would benefit from downloading a copy of Ubuntu to keep as a backup in case Windows ever completely fails them and they just need a temporary OS until they can figure things out. It's free so why not?
Edited by - randomprecision on 4/30/2008 2:10:36 PM
 
kukm4
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9/04
Posted - Apr 30 2008 : 7:10PM
Dont forget option of using Wubi (if you plan to try Ubuntu)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iILE007CMw
Harri Patel
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3/03
Posted - May 3 2008 : 4:49PM
^ Hey, thanks for mentioning that. I've just finished a totally painless Wubi installation. Seems to work great. Now I just have to install all the extra stuff manually since Automatix isn't being continued.
jonfr
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2/07
Posted - May 5 2008 : 9:57PM
I use Gentoo Linux and I have more then 120.000 programs that I can use for it. So I don't even know what you are speaking about.
nietzsche
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5470 Posts
8/03
Posted - May 6 2008 : 7:34PM
Don't get lippy with me.



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