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Posted - Apr 27 2016 : 1:46PM
Looks like a strong intro for Joss. If I had to choose between seeing him or Stallion added to the site I'd choose Joss (I like Stallion but I prefer Joss). Maybe he'll replace Michael Williams (Blacked's weakest performer imho)?
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Posted - Apr 27 2016 : 1:52PM
Remember all the complaints that Peta Jensen got for waiting, because I don't. This isn't a simple matter of Brandi waiting to shoot IR and then finally shooting it.
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Posted - Apr 27 2016 : 1:55PM
I'm not familiar with Brandi's prior views or work, but I read the essay she wrote that was linked above and I little to no problem with what she said (I'm a Black male, by the way). I will now go watch the trailer. If she looks hot and puts in a solid performance, that's good enough for me.
Wow at this part. ' I’m not going to be told to “suck that n***** cock”' How much IR porn did she watched that every video was like that? I guess calling her out won't matter as she got rewarded with a scene with blacked. Just sucks people keep getting away with saying that when there are several IR companies besides Blacked that don't make porn like that. Edited by - twodirection on 4/27/2016 2:02:59 PM
^^ I don't see a big problem with what she said either and people do change. "Interracial" is just a category, but If she and other porn stars really had a problem with the racism in porn they can curve that by shooting with more black performers. but i also believe that it's a choice, you shouldn't try to pressure anyone into it. There's not a problem to speak of if black male stars are getting the same opportunities/scenes/promotion as white male stars. onto the topic: the scene looks pretty good and i don't know how old she is now but her body looks amazing, the best of her career at this time. Edited by - dylan_stiles on 4/27/2016 2:16:29 PM
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Posted - Apr 27 2016 : 2:16PM
It wasn't all that long ago that Dogfart would have girls pose with signs reading, "I sucked n**** dick at Dogfart.com" and one of the cuckolds they used regularly was constantly tweeting similar things on Twitter. Look back on their timeline or on their website, I imagine you can find them still. I (and many others) complained about it to them often and it seems they have finally stopped that practice. I never wanted to, or did, watch those scenes, so I certainly understand why some performers wouldn't want to be involved in shooting them. Nowadays, as you said, there are several companies besides Blacked that aren't shooting scenes like that, so Brandi has now shot her first IR. Makes complete sense to me. Edited by - however on 4/27/2016 2:21:35 PM
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Posted - Apr 27 2016 : 2:25PM
^Dogfart? Leaving aside the fact that the word "nigger" was never used in the majority of scenes on Dogfart (I was a member then, I know), Brandi alleged that "the vast majority of the interracial video productions in the market" (emphasis mine) consisted of that kind of content. If she had singled out Dogfart's content as problematic and said that she won't shoot for them no one would have called her out for misrepresenting the IR genre. Edited by - misspornUSA on 4/27/2016 2:41:23 PM
I think there were alternatives to Dogfart at that time like Jules Jordan. Who is Blacked.com's DVD distributer if I remember correctly. Edited by - twodirection on 4/27/2016 2:28:12 PM
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Posted - Apr 27 2016 : 2:33PM
^^Indeed, I pointed out in 2014 that she could have easily shot with major performers like Lex, Mandingo, Prince, etc. without being called a "white bitch." If Brandi didn't want to shoot IR at the time, that's fine. She's being criticized for talking nonsense, not for waiting.
for a rebound for me it would be nice if they could get Kendra Sunderland - the library girl. she said she was kinda thinking about shooting for blacked. a fresh girl with no real mainstream hardcore out. She has some mainstream attention as well. she's actually worth the big paycheck. She's incredibly hot.
All the hate comments aside.. the trailer looks good to me. What actually sucks is the return of the word "dodger" .... SMH. Edited by - adhiraj on 4/27/2016 2:47:26 PM
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Posted - Apr 27 2016 : 3:14PM
Saying she was "talking nonsense" is a huge stretch. She wrote a lengthy essay exploring many facets of the business as regards IR and you all pull one clause out of it ("vast majority...") and use it to label and criticize her. Were a vast majority of companies releasing product like that? I don't know, but I do know Dogfart was just one example that I used -- Devil's Film and their Gangland (and other similar) series; JM Productions' White Trash Whore series, etc., etc. Were there companies out there that were not shooting these types of films? Yes, but there was enough critical mass to show that she wasn't just "talking nonsense." PS -- Sorry to all for derailing the thread. I will stop now. Edited by - however on 4/27/2016 3:15:12 PM
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Posted - Apr 27 2016 : 3:29PM
^Well considering that she wrote that article around 2014, then no way was the critical mass of IR porn raceplay style.
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Posted - Apr 27 2016 : 4:02PM
^^^Of course I'm going to mention the portion of her blog post that she is being criticized for, and yes, it was nonsense. The word "nigger" was not in most IR scenes in 2014, and while the term "white bitch" was more used than the n-word, it's "a huge stretch" to allege that it was showing up in the "the vast majority" of IR scenes. JM Productions was only releasing IR compilations by the time Brandi wrote her blog post, and the White Trash Whore series had been dead for years. "White bitch" showed up in some Devils Films scenes at the time and not in others. If the word "nigger" was being used in the IR content that Devils Films was releasing at the time it was so incredibly rare that I didn't notice.
MisspornUSA has hit the nail right on the head its not the waiting that bothered most, lots of girls have waited and never caught any hell for it Riley Reid, Keisha Gray, I could go on but they never said anything negative or generalized IR's darker side as the whole of the genre. Its when they try to explain their reasons and the statement is full of false information that is easily disputable that may work on the casual porn fan but for the fans that truly follow the genre it kinda of comes off as if they are insulting our intelligence and when you are simply pointing out that their information is completely off base you are labeled as a hater or they feel you are in someway pressuring when all you are trying to do is simply inform. I also think most IR fans are willing to forgive and forget and move on for the most part as long as the performer goes on to perform with the same passion and fire she did in her scenes that were not IR. Adriana Chechik is a perfect example. She did basically everything under the sun then went on Howard Stern did that infamous interview and it ticked off lots of IR fans and when her IR scene debuted she got some flack for it but when those same fans saw she was holding nothing back and performed just as hard in those scenes as she did in others the complaints went away. As for Brandi she made that post a couple of years ago and people do grow and change. Hell my personal porn growth went from not caring what a girl did (teens and early 20s)but then I started noticing lots of the girls I liked didn't shoot IR and I went to the fuck them bitches if they don't no matter what the reason(mid 20's) (mind you I never went after any of them or harassed never was that guy) but then I grew out of that and my opinion on girls that don't shoot IR has changed now I am a fan who can enjoy a girl if she doesn't shoot IR(Ir my fav genre) but at the same time there are things that can turn me off a girl who doesn't shoot IR and I wont buy anything with her in it.
Well They did not disappoint The scene looks pretty good. With all the rules, stipulations and time frames some people put on performers on when they should do something, it's a wonder now some get any enjoyment out of porn.
yeah @zaxmate - kinda. she said here https://twitter.com/KSLibraryGirl/status/713893639504703488 a guy asked about doing a scene there and she said she was talking to someone about that. I bet behind scenes they are trying to strike a deal. she has also liked and retweeted people asking her to shoot with blacked. To me at least that means she is down for negotiation(if the $ is right). She could be a tease though, but idk.
^ Eh I think she is just teasing. We are talking about a girl who was offered shitton of money by hardcore sites to fuck on camera and didn't do it because she knew she would earn a lot more by just selling her "Libary Girl" persona and swim in money. But then again there is a possibility that money river is starting to run dry as time goes on and people start losing interest so she might be indeed flirting around with an idea of doing hardcore with critically acclaimed and popular director like Greg for a big paycheck and instant pornstar status after her first scene on Blacked. Would be surprised if she wasn't approaced by Greg with an offer aldready. Gotta see what happens.
Maybe she get informed and changed her mind , is that wrong? Is everything anybody says carved in stone? Furthermore if I recall well she also said she would under the right scenario and circumstances , her plot is not the cheating wife scenario the cheating one is the man. Edited by - LCF on 4/27/2016 5:39:44 PM
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Posted - Apr 27 2016 : 5:51PM
^I haven't said that anything is "wrong" with Brandi shooting IR now (I intend to watch the scene), and she didn't claim that she would never shoot IR anyway. The only thing she was misinformed about in 2014 was the gullibility of IR fans.
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Posted - Apr 27 2016 : 5:57PM
Does she have an issue with cheating scenarios?
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Posted - Apr 27 2016 : 6:49PM
Wow what an amazing trailer with Brandi Love.She looks fantastic in that video. IR suits her really well.Brandi needs to be on Tushy as well. Blacked is getting everybody.Alexis Texas next?
Awesome get, but i'll be highly disappointed if there's no reverse cowgirl. Why waste the time getting her if we not even going to see half of her best assets. Hopefully the full length version won't let me down. Blacked has been much better lately with showing the whole girl.
This. She hit the nail on the head with her comments about what people really want to see in interracial porn; stereotypes. Big dicked black guys dominating the poor little white girl. They want to see the "savage" black degrade the "pure" white girl. The most hypocritical and loathsome thing is the pro interracial viewers who perpetuate this theme and at the same time claim to be enlightened because they watch interracial porn. Many on this very thread are the epitome of that ideology. She made insightful comments on the issue and as you have already seen the comments about her, because she wasn't willing to perpetuate or fulfil the racist fantasies of viewers she is condemned. While girls who think nothing of yelling "fuck me with that nigger dick" are lorded as progressive and examples how porn should depict interracial sex. They want the "nigger" in interracial porn because it titillates their latent sub-concious bigotry.
Yeah, this has gone about how I thought it would. And I have had some good laughs. That being said:The problem with this line of thinking (and why people are calling her out on it) isn't that there isn't a market for the type of IR porn she's talking about. There is. It's that that type of IR porn hasn't been the majority of the market for years now. There's always been a good amount of IR porn that you would never have been able to describe like that. And for the people that have known that, and known it for a while, when performers bring it up as the reason why they don't want to do IR porn, it feels like an insult to their intelligence because they can sit there and point to those scenes right now, from major producers and major companies (sometimes that those same performers have already shot for), so they can't understand how those performers don't know that those scenes (or those types of scenes) exist. To use the example I've stated before in another thread, Brandi's first mainstream porn scenes were for Naughty America. She's known the people that run Naughty America for years, and is good friends with them. She knows that Naughty America shoots interracial porn. In fact, she's even been on set during one of their interracial scenes. So she knows they don't shoot the type of scenes she's describing. So why couldn't she have shot an interracial scene for them? I mean, I know the real answer to that question, but that's why her entire argument doesn't really stand up. And that's completely ignoring that Blacked is almost literally built on the idea of the strong black man and the innocent/naive/pure white girl.
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Posted - Apr 27 2016 : 8:52PM
I agree with some of what she says there. As I mentioned in my response to LCF, Brandi did not say that she would never shoot with a black man, so her shooting for Blacked isn't some sort of a 360°. That said, I believe that she could have avoided a lot of criticism by not telling a tall tale about the state of IR.
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Posted - Apr 27 2016 : 9:01PM
No one on this thread has claimed to be enlightened because they watch IR.Nope. She misjudged IR fans as being simple children whom would believe her if she told them a made up story about what most IR is. We didn't, and that is where the criticism is coming from.That hasn't happened on this thread. What are you talking about?The criticism of Brandi isn't about a desire to hear her say "nigger." What are you talking about?
I for one can not stand when the extreme wing of IR fans harrass performers for not doing IR because it makes all of us look bad however I am disappointed anytime someone who makes negative generalizations of IR gets a big payday off of it.
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Posted - Apr 28 2016 : 1:05AM
Whatever her reasons for delaying her IR debut, Brandi Love made a helluva entrance in this scene! The chemistry and passion she had with her scene partner was self-evident. BTW, I don't pay significant attention to the guy(s) in a scene, unless they get in the way, but this dude put in work. Kudos to him. This scene looks like an instant classic. Edited by - ErikTheGreat on 4/28/2016 1:06:35 AM Edited by - ErikTheGreat on 4/28/2016 1:07:04 AM
She got paid because of the work she's put in building a fan base and making good scenes, not because of that blog post. I'll criticize that post for what it is, but even without it she would have gotten paid good money for her first IR because she's a good performer with a large and fairly loyal fan base.
I don't know but they were and still are the most common scenarios in IR porn , Cuckolds and all maybe she was referring to them plus I don't think any performer keeps informed every day about how is going a particular genre , maybe she talked about it with other performers , but if those had bad experience I'm betting she believes her more than she believes us. Another possibility is that she tried and only got bad offers so she declined it entirely. Now that blacked and others made their name she reconsidered.
Those who did are criticized as well , it's a Kobayashi Maru scenario, you can't win
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Posted - Apr 28 2016 : 5:33AM
All the stupid outfits I didn't care for... all the Isaiah Maxwell scenes I couldn't be bothered with... this Brandi Love update makes up for absolutely everything... EVERYTHING I say! Now... if you will get Alexis Fawx Blacked... oh my...!!! And... if you... somehow manage a (even one and done) Puma Swede video, I'll pay any price you see fit for a lifelong membership. Well... I'm already hooked for life... so...
Alison Tyler, Mia Malkova and Ivy Madison I loved to see get Blacked. I kinda given up on Briana Banks,Puma Swede, Vicky Vette, Riley Steele or Jesse Jane EVER doing IR.
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Posted - Apr 28 2016 : 10:28AM
^It's too early to give up on Jesse imho (I don't count her years with DP against her), but if she shoots IR I'd guess that it would be for Jules Jordan. I wonder if Mason isn't a more likely choice for Mia's "first IR"? In my view Alison's career could really benefit from a "first" at this point, and I think that Lansky would be willing to make an exception.
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Posted - Apr 28 2016 : 11:06AM
I think that if she was referring to those scenarios, she would have referred to those scenarios.Neither of the following scenarios that I've developed from what you wrote seems likely to me. The first one underestimates Brandi's intelligence, and the second one overestimates the prevalence of hard raceplay: Brandi spoke to several pornstars about their IR experiences and all of them or nearly all of them were called a "white bitch" in most or all of their IR scenes and told to "suck that nigger cock" in most or all of their IR scenes, so Brandi concluded that "the vast majority of the interracial video productions in the market today" have that sort of dialogue. Brandi spoke to a lot of pornstars about their IR experiences and all of them or nearly all of them were called a "white bitch" in most or all of their IR scenes and told to "suck that nigger cock" in most or all of their IR scenes, so Brandi concluded that "the vast majority of the interracial video productions in the market today" have that sort of dialogue. I think that you're reaching.She didn't write anything about declining IR offers "entirely." She said that the "the vast majority" of IR consisted of hard raceplay (a false claim) and that she wouldn't shoot that. I'm not disappointed that she waited until 2016 and I haven't criticized her for doing so. The scene looks good imo. Edited by - misspornUSA on 4/28/2016 11:07:13 AM
My point is that I wouldn't give a damn if she delayed IR or never did it *but* she decided to make a ridiculous blog filled with generalizations and inaccurate depictions of the genre for her reasons of not doing it. That's not someone I'd like to be rewarded with a big payday on a major IR site and she has doubled down on it after the scene released so it isn't like she changed. Whatever enjoy the scene but I'm disappointed.
Posted - Apr 27 2016 : 1:46PM
Does she have an issue with cheating scenarios?