How has Lansky not used Janice Griffith for a scene? She has done one IR scene before, so she's clearly not opposed to doing it. Maybe one exists but hasn't been released?
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Yeah, according to her words she's basically opposed to shooting a scene with a black male and having it be labeled as an IR scene. And if she shot for Blacked, there would be no getting around it being labeled as an IR scene. At best (and I doubt this would happen), he could shoot her in an IR scene for Vixen or Tushy and ignore that labeling.
^it makes sense and it doesnt make sense because there are other performers, like Riley Reid and Lisa Ann, that share similar views but I dont recall them boycotting shooting with black men altogether to establish a point on the issue
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FlacFan Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 4 2017 : 1:32AM
Or Janice has the courage of her convictions to say no unless she is comfortable with it.
Riley Reid already shot a multitude of scenes when she thought that IR wasn't the ideal way to label a scene with a black man , Lisa Ann did IR way before it was even a label. In both cases would be very strange to despise their previous work. Janice on the other hand has been consistent with the view from the very beginning and stays consistent with that, her disappointment raised because according to her it was agreed the scene wouldn't be tagged as ir less of all"first IR" she has no problem with black men , so maybe she would do it for Vixen or Tushy or Erotica X and Hard X as long as the scene isn't tagged as Ir Edited by - LCF on 1/4/2017 6:00:48 AM
^I did not know about Janice's stance on "race" in porn, or however she views it. Informative. I guess she will be out of IR on most sites for the foreseeable future if she maintains her stance.
An alternative would be for Greg to book Janice on Vixen or Tushy with a black performer and not have the IR label, i'd like to see that I understand Janice's point of view, IR shouldn't be like, "1st anal" or "1st DP" but you often see "1st IR" and it then turns that race into a fetish. I don't care so much about the label but rather erasing the stigma that comes with IR and i think Greg and many of the new models in the industry are erasing that stigma. By shooting IR early in their careers and on their own terms not their agents, it becomes like another scene. There's no need for a build up of "OMG, When is she going to do her first IR" You can't really help what people will label your scenes or you, that's true in life too, but you can help with breaking the stigma and stereotypes.
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FlacFan Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 4 2017 : 6:18PM
^ It is a fetish. It is still widely frowned upon in certain places. No, I don't agree, just stating facts. Should it be? Of course not.
calling a spade a spade - it seems counterintuitive and hypocritical to call out the stigma of the interracial connotations and then completely ban yourself from any way to produce a new positive label for it. I mean, for the sake of categorizing the films, anything with a black guy and a non-black girl will be labeled interracial at one point or another. Some do strictly for retail and others still have that stereotyping mindset involved. But how does not shooting with any black guys, but continuing to shoot with white guys, help the problem at all? Just seems like a big cop out to me Plus, Jules distributes Lansky's media so if the behind the scenes people are the same in some instances where she would cross faces again, she wouldnt shoot for Blacked. In fact, based on her feelings, she isnt going to shoot for anyone since they all play up some aspect of the interracial genre one way or another. Now my question is, did she take a pay raise to shoot with Flash? Why did she not have something binding in legal text that would've prevented Jules from sticking the first ir label on the box covers?
^ First, the behind the scenes people (in terms of shooting) are all different between Jules and Greg. All Jules distributing Lansky's material means is that the same people are the ones that accept the orders for the DVDs and maybe have some approval over the packaging (I'd imagine that someone at the head offices of Lansky's production company, if not Lansky himself, decides on things like box covers). They are entirely different production companies with entirely different employees. Second, whatever deal she has with Jules, she actually did get him to agree to not label it as her first IR on the packaging and on his website. She got angry at AEBN for talking about it on their blog (and maybe labeling it on their site, I haven't checked), which wasn't something that Jules has/had any control over. But checking Jules' website the scene actually isn't labeled as IR and has no mention at all of Flash being black in the description. And there's no mention of IR at all on the box cover either, you wouldn't know it was an IR scene until you saw the pictures on the back cover.
To me, Greg Lansky and Mason are the best porn directors. They have different styles, but I like them both. And there are only a few pornstars as hot as Megan Rain, no one hotter than her. Her DP scene on Tushy is one of the best DP scenes I ever saw. And though I'm mostly interested in anal scenes I also enjoy her non-anal scenes too, because she's so incredibly sexy. But I was a little disappointed by this new scene, from the advertising I had expected more. I found the actual DP part too short. Don't get me wrong, the scene is excellent. I had just expected more DP action. Edited by - Keishaddiction on 1/5/2017 6:02:39 PM
^^Oh boy, are they actually going to make the next update a G/G scene only, and not just a bonus on the side? That seems a bit risky. I don't think the members are going to like that. I can only see 2 outcomes, a lot of backlash or barely any reaction at all, neither of which is good. It's a bold move, I'm interested in seeing what happens.
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Fknzz Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 5 2017 : 4:32PM
I don't like g/g and I will not watch it. But I will not cry either just because its one g/g update over hundreds scenes and that I have to wait like 5 more days for another new scene. Why ? because its the same when the update is a girl I'm not into and that I will not watch. So its not as risky as updating a girl that is not attractive.
^^I don't know. Will you still be as forgiving if it becomes more frequent and like 1 out of every 4 updates is a G/G scene? Blacked is technically an IR site and not strictly B/G, so they could justify it.
She'd do anything for a bag of chips! 430 Posts 8/15
Posted - Jan 5 2017 : 6:35PM
Instead of rattling on about g/g scenes I think we should address the disappointingly short time that Megan got DP'ed. 4 minutes is no time, hopefully Megan will be back for another double helping of BBC sooner rather than later and for a longer time.
^ if i had the choice of random no-names getting a b/g scene as opposed to two popular girls doing a g/g with the possibility of those two doing a B/G/G in a future, I'm taking the latter choice 10/10 times
What Have You Done To My Little Cable Boy? 2966 Posts 5/10
Posted - Jan 6 2017 : 10:25AM
Maybe you're expecting the wrong things from GL. Blacked is not DarkX or "back in the day" JJ. It's erotica. It's porn for a different audience IMO and maybe that audience isn't that much interested in long anal parts or anal in general. You should't hold your breath for "better" or longer anal sex next time. Edited by - InstantClassic on 1/6/2017 10:26:45 AM
I don't think so. This is part of a showcase, thus an exception. At this point, with no g/g updates in Vixen, i think he will launch a g/g site this year. He recently followed Jenna Sativa in twitter so... who knows
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JackSparrow Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 6 2017 : 1:50PM
^ bringing Jenna Sativa to do a B/G scene for one of the three excisting sites,would bring much more attention ,than making her the opening lady for a planned G/G site ,just my opinion.
I expected that the scene would be what had been advertised. And I expected that the DP part would be considerably longer, just as it was in the other DP scenes Greg Lansky shot for Tushy and for Blacked. Many of these DP scenes are among the best I ever saw. So I definitely didn't have wrong expectations.
One of those never say never things, but from talking to people who would know, it would take so much money for Jenna to do a b/g scene that it won't happen anytime soon, if ever. She takes so much pride in being g/g only. Same with Kenna James.
Kendra Sunderland is so blantly the next preview trailer.
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Fknzz Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 6 2017 : 8:26PM
Funny vid.but I agree only on the cuckold part. Both the fact that blacked puts too much cuckold lately by forcing us to see the guy jacking off DURING THE SEX! And I'm scared to see that sadly cuckold could become more "normal"and not staying as a category you could avoid before. I really thought we were alone(in this forumà thinking about that but I guess it really is a general problem and Lansky should be aware of that.
I'm not much for G/G by itself, which is why I'm hoping the preview is to throw us off and later reveals a male figure. That'd be HOT. If anyone has seen the recent excellent Brazzers scene with Flash Brown, Osa Lovely and Elsa Jean, you'd see what I mean.
He's done those set ups before but the issue is that you likely cut the g/g parts short when you eventually introduce the male. I cant recall if it was this thread or not where a poster suggested using the male first, let him finish, and then shoot another extra 15-20 minutes of the remaining girls rock each other to climax. I've never seen that(except for a couple of minutes before the eventual kiss and fade to black) where you shoot all the g/g after the stud part is done
^It would be interesting to see someone try that. It would be a total reverse of the usual convention. This way, the male would be the "warm-up" for the main event which is the G/G. Anyways, less than a day to see if Lansky dared tto put up a lone G/G scene.
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Posted - Jan 6 2017 : 10:52PM
I thought she had a B/B/G but this appears to be only a B/G.
Posted - Jan 3 2017 : 2:32AM
Love it! 