I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13
Posted - Oct 4 2017 : 2:28PM
Blacked Raw will debut in 21 days with a scene starring Jax Slayher and Kendra Sunderland. Topic Moved by - Flash on Dec 13 2018
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Mass Facialties Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 4 2017 : 3:15PM
Huh. My initial impression is that it looks like it'll be feature stuff - like scripted scenes/movies with a lot of lines and acting - rather than another site that follows the same formula as Blacked/Tushy/Vixen, where it's just a brief setup and then straight up gonzo sex. EDIT: Scratch that! I just logged in to Vixen.com and a preview video for this new site popped up. This new site is going to be "amateur style," where a lot of the footage seems to be from cell phone video and the sex is shot in an amateur style rather than the trademark perfectly lit Blacked/Tushy/Vixen arrangements. Along with Kendra Sunderland, a couple other girls who I recognized in the preview clip were: Lana Rhoades, Abigail Mac, Sloan Harper, Evelyn Claire, Lily Love, and Kylie Page. Edited by - Mass Facialties on 10/4/2017 3:32:06 PM
The scenes we know of so far: Hannah Hays Abigail Mac Sloan Harper Lana Rhoades Lily Love Evelyn Claire Tasha Reign Chloe Scott Kendra Sunderland & Jax Slayher Kylie Page
I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13
Posted - Oct 4 2017 : 5:15PM
^^Hmm. I watch a lot of amateur/self-shot IR scenes. This could be really promising imo if the positions are more intimate than what we typically see in porn and Greg matches up performers who are capable of actually having sex with each other instead of just performing porn. Edited by - misspornUSA on 10/4/2017 5:17:05 PM
To me this site is meh. The male talent looks lame. Can't they get some good BBC? What happened to Julio Gomez, or Dingo or Dredd? I am a paying member of Blacked.com so don't want to come off as a troll. Porn is about fantasy and seeing the hottest girls with the "biggest" guys in different scenarios is appealing to me, but the lame, soft male talent that makes it all about them is annoying. Sorry but its a pass for me.
I'd Like to see Alex Blake with Jax in an unscripted scene , they already worked together and I really had the impression they really like each other another one I'd like to watch unscripted is Kasey Warner also Melissa Moore
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Posted - Oct 4 2017 : 5:51PM
I will say this has a lot of potential after watching the trailer! That Lana scene looks to be great. Would have liked to see more of Tasha, but it looked hot. Several others look promising too. Looks like it could be similar to Brothalovers, but with better sets, better casting, and more energetic fucking! Just my type of thing! Nice to see some of those straight-on shots really catching the action, but it doesn't all have to be that way. Looks to be more freestyle sex than the set-up, scripted Blacked stuff, which will be a nice change of pace. Hope there will be lots and lots of creampies. I also wouldn't mind seeing more girls with tattoos, just for the sake of having the casting pool that much bigger. Juelz Ventura and Synthia Fixx, anyone? Bringing back Peta Jensen for this would be awesome too. Anyway, I can't wait!
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Posted - Oct 4 2017 : 5:55PM
That is a very valid concern. I think the search for good male talent will have to continue. That dude with Hannah Hays barely looked black. Or they need to turn up the contrast levels or something. Edited by - SirJerksAlot on 10/4/2017 6:07:49 PM
It's funny you guys are wondering about Dredd, because he shows up in the trailer for BLACKEDRAW, at least for one scene with Chloe Scott that is. You also have to remember that the clip of Hannah Hays is being shot with the light shining bright on her and the male talent, so he looks lighter skinned than he probably is. It's either that or Hannah has gotten really pale since I've last watched her.
^^^^ Dredd appears to be in the preview with Chloe Scott. ^^^ Alex Blake and Jax have already worked together four times... which is three more times than she's worked with any other black male performer. Surely at least one of those fits your criteria (my money would be on the InterracialPass/HushHush scene and/or the HussieAuditions one. NaughtyAthletics and TeenCreeper are the other two. Edited by - Gunslinger on 10/4/2017 6:01:22 PM Edited by - Gunslinger on 10/4/2017 6:02:37 PM
^ As far as I know Alex Blake only performed IR with Jax if you know of any others I'd like to know who they are , anyway all those scene were scripted not raw , one of them had a constant interaction with the cameraman and one of them appears to be a fake rape that even involved ropes , not my cup of tea and not really the kind of stuff we'll get at Blackedraw
It's weird that they are pairing this concept with the IR concept you'd think with something so conceptual they would have just basically done this for Vixen I like the concept but I'm not huge on IR so idk why they'd make it so niche for their first foray into this concept, unless they plan on eventually doing a vixenraw and a tushyraw
^^ IR isn't really niche. You have to remember that Greg Lansky launching BLACKED and its subsequent success was what allowed him to expand and create VIXEN and TUSHY. Besides, this concept isn't new and you can find similar forays in it with vanilla porn (like Manuel Ferrara's RAW series). There's, to my knowledge, one IR site that is similar but it's very inactive so this may be Greg Lansky capitalizing on an open market. Anyways, upon rewatching the trailer, I realized that Kendra's shot at least two scenes for them, each with a different male talent. So here's to hoping the other starting girls aren't just one and done for them!
I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13
Posted - Oct 4 2017 : 7:11PM
Julio is said to have legal problems and Dredd has apparently shot for the site. Mandingo is extremely hit and miss for me, but maybe he'll eventually show up on the site too.
I hope to see many actresses that Greg doesnt normally cast. Im hoping he'll leave all the exclusive and elegance at blacked and open up about the female talent he casts.
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Posted - Oct 4 2017 : 9:36PM
Manuel's RAW is him holding the camera and POV style, isn't it? I really hate POV and am glad this is not like that. Also, there's almost nothing worse than hearing or seeing the cameraman. That's why BangBros and Hush are such a fuckin' joke.
^ BangBros doesn't really do that anymore, at least not with their IR scenes from what I've seen.As was the Rob Piper BLACKED scene that was already mentioned, she also shot with Macana Man for Superheroine Destruction. https://www.clips4sale.com/studio/116200/18380729/American+Dream+Defeated
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Posted - Oct 4 2017 : 10:07PM
I'd estimate 10-15% is POV. The vast majority of RAW is tripod/sextape style filming where the camera is stationary.
I read from another forum that Abigail Mac and Hannah Hays will be with James Jagger from www.american-pornstar.com. This a very good news, if it is true. Also you can hire [invalid URL removed]Danila and John Johnson instead of Jason Luv and Davin King.
I'm stoked to see what Greg has in store for us, it's not exactly what i've wished for, but he'll convince me at some point anyway... What's up with the Priority List though? I was pretty quick and it still said to me it's full, so did anyone actually get a look at the scenes?
No no, I wasn't responding to you. I was replying to the post above yours. The arrow count represents how many posts up to check, e.g. ^^^ = 3 posts up. It's a way of keeping the threads less cluttered with quotes. It does get a bit unwieldy after about 6 arrows though heh I hope you didn't think I was venting at you lol. I actually have the same question as you. I've seen some edits of the trailer, such as one edit of the official BlackedRaw trailer which cuts it down to only Lana's parts, and it looks great. But I'd love to see the whole trailer. It's some bullshit that the early-access passes are already filled out. It hadn't even been announced for 1 day. I suspect forced scarcity to generate hype. It's smart, but pisses me off lol Edited by - melvyn on 10/5/2017 4:26:58 PM
The footage does seem to have a unique look that I haven't seen with other sites. As an "artist" as he likes to call himself, I haven't seen much evidence that Lansky tries to push himself creatively. Maybe this will be an example of such. But his style is so repetitive with the other sites that I'm going to guess he's just developed a different style and format for this site and all the scenes will stick to that style and format, in which case I'd continue to not take his claims of being an artist seriously. It would be interesting to see someone in this industry really challenge themselves creatively and if Lansky starts doing that with this site, I'll give him credit. Just gotta see it to believe it.
^ As an artist myself, I disagree with your marrying of "creativity" with "creating art." Not all artists are creative. Actually, let me rephrase that. You don't have to constantly be innovating new things all the time to be considered an artist. Not saying Greg is, but some artists can be repetitive. Or a "nicer" way of putting it, you can develop a "style" that you use consistently and still be an artist. Not all artists have to consistently reinvent themselves or "create" a vast amount of "styles" to showcase their "art."
^^ Without actually watching a scene from BLACKEDRAW, there is one site that has a similar approach to filming the sex, BAEB.com. The way the scene is lit is very reminiscent, though obviously other things may be different.
I have been wanting to see something like this and been asking for it on the main Blacked thread for some time. This is a great look that could not have come any sooner. You see, what has happened with Blacked is that by cementing their status as the #1 trendsetter and leader of the IR genre (not only that but one of the top ranked sites overall in very short order) they found a winning formula and want to keep it that way. I understand why it's pragmatically unlikely to convince them to change when they are #1. But there IS still a market for gonzo, and it's not exactly a tiny one. It may be still the majority of the market. Does anyone here know generally speaking what share of porn production is narrative/script vs gonzo? So while it might not make sense to make any dramatic changes to the Blacked formula on the now established site, it does make sense to branch out and get after that gonzo/homemade style market with a new spinoff brand. What I've seen so far from the brief snippets on Twitter looks pretty much exactly how I'd go for it. If it flops, you guys can all blame me. lol But this is a horse worth betting on.
You have to signup to get priority access to view the trailer. You have porn girls talking to a camera and then getting railed in a hotel room. It all appears very staged. Nothing Raw and unscripted like Manuel Ferrara's Raw.
We've seen exactly 1 minute and 44 seconds of footage from the site. How about we wait until we actually get a full length scene before people start declaring it a ripoff of some other site.
How a scene is shot never really perturbed me except in a few exceptional circumstances during the more gonzo era of porn. At the end of the day, I just watch porn for the girls, and seeing as BLACKEDRAW will be debuting with talent that I get down with, I see no reason to dislike it!
Long before Brothalovers there was a lot of Amateurs who were already doing that for years some of them have been active for almost twenty years shooting in Motels, MultiOrgasmicMary comes to mind first , but even some of the early Janet Mason's Flicks were like that , all those of DFW Knight are as such and I can continue for a very long list , mind you I'm not even updated and I 'm far from knowing them all IR and Amateur iR is but a fraction of my porn interests , I'm interested in actresses I like if they do IR i watch it, if they don't I watch them regardless Edited by - LCF on 10/6/2017 5:36:24 PM
