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| Derek117 Senior Member 1605 Posts 1/06 | Since Jenna Jameson has made it official, and announced her retirement from performing this week, IMO Digital Playground pint-size star, Jesse Jane, has inherited (for now) the Crown of #1 Porn Star. Her Qualifications? Jesse is well-liked by most folks in the biz, she has a loyal porn buying fan base--and, most importantly, with her Playboy TV job, having hosted the AVN Awards, and hosting the Porn Star Ball, she seems to be the go-to girl to "represent" the porn biz at mixed events. The Queen is Dead! Long Live the (new) Queen! What do you think? [Link] |
| 4theheart Senior Member pornologist 3102 Posts 8/01 | |
| Derek117 Senior Member 1605 Posts 1/06 | Being strictly objective, I think Jesse has the potential to star in several blockbusters, and give great performances, in the future. Plus Jesse has the determination and drive of a US Marine Corps battalion. If I were handicapping this on who I "want" to be the next Jenna, it would be Monique Alexander. But, Monique doesn't work for a company that knows how to market the girl. So, at this moment, it leaves Jesse Jane. |
| Drop a load Senior Member My leg hurts 1098 Posts 11/05 | |
| pis228 Member The Elusive Southern California Spearmint Rhino 88 Posts 6/07 | |
| Porn Scout Deactivated User 3735 Posts 10/02 | |
| ArinsystmaticX Deactivated User 1968 Posts 12/05 | Jenna Haze has done quiet a bit in mainstream as well. She just appeared in the movie Superbad briefly too...so she isn't a stranger to mainstream either. |
| Derek117 Senior Member 1605 Posts 1/06 | |
| Crucifixio_Jones Senior Member Arrogant & Obnoxious Narcissist 4727 Posts 10/03 | |
| DirtyDoug Deactivated User 143 Posts 3/07 | Go to your local plastic surgeon, maul your face & lips with a scalpel, get out-of-proportion bolt-ons, and a suck your eyeballs out of their sockets all to achieve that barbie doll look. I know if I had a daughter, I\'d be saying, \"Look sweetie, you should look up to a gal like her!\" |
| Johnothan Pedak Senior Member Catastrophe 1594 Posts 6/07 | |
| ArinsystmaticX Deactivated User 1968 Posts 12/05 | Instead of J James, I'd even go for her fellow Digital Playground girl Teagan Presley. She is no stranger to mainstream either, and has the looks to get noticed. She also knows how to FUCK!!! Edited by - ArinsystmaticX on 8/25/2007 9:49:18 PM |
| benderset Deactivated User 477 Posts 8/06 | |
| ShaDaBitch ArinsystmaticX Melbourne Australia 75 Posts 3/06 | If you were watching a family show with your kids and family mates like Friends, would you want Jesse James to make a guest appearance or Stormy or Jenna Haze? I for one think a porn star should not look like one, in anything to do with mainstream. I can not comment on Teagan, because I have not seen her movies yet. Though, she looks cute as a button! Shaila |
| ShaDaBitch ArinsystmaticX Melbourne Australia 75 Posts 3/06 | |
| Johnothan Pedak Senior Member Catastrophe 1594 Posts 6/07 | |
| benderset Deactivated User 477 Posts 8/06 | |
| Noriinrad Member 185 Posts 3/05 | But I think the Real Deal is CARMEN LUVANA! Why, because she can do something both Jesse Jane and Tera Patrick can't do....Carmen will take it international, reach out to the hispanic communities and keep it mainstream at the same time. And let's face it, Carmen is a better performer than Jesse Jane. And she hasn't even reached her prime yet. Carmen Luvana gets my vote. |
| pis228 Member The Elusive Southern California Spearmint Rhino 88 Posts 6/07 | +1 However, Belladonna is pretty rad. But, to me she has her own unique thing going on that lies somewhere between porn and performance art. I think Stormy is definitely a great business woman, has good acting chops, and great creative ideas, but I am not a huge Wicked fan because they always seem to use the same men. So I want to see more of her, but haven't for that one reason.---Same goes for Kirsten (love the all-brunette hair) Price. To me Haze is the one who puts it most across and through the camera that she loves to f*ck. And I think that is what a lot of porn is missing. |
| messhuga Member Stop the Swedes!!!!! 824 Posts 3/07 | Its not good enough just to have the Looks or a bad Boobjob and then be a Weak performer. Thats why I nominate Jenna Haze over Stormy Daniels,coz Jenna Haze can actually perform,unlike the later . |
| Draxxx Senior Member 3831 Posts 2/07 | Outside or porn Jesse's biggest exposure to the mainstream have been her part in Seymore Butts Showtime show and her flings with Tommy Lee and kid Rock. Being on PLAYBOY TV doesn't hurt and may help her DVD sales but I suspect the people who watch PLAYBOY TV are already porn fans and are already familiar with plenty of porn stars. Does anyone outside of Porn even know who Jenna Haze is? Mary carey is far more known than Jenna Haze is and Mary can't seem to capitalize on her noterity. Edited by - draxxx on 8/26/2007 1:18:45 AM |
| steeler59711 Member 427 Posts 2/03 | |
| ArinsystmaticX Deactivated User 1968 Posts 12/05 | Forget now, about 3 years ago when I was at a party on the 6th mile...Eminem was talking about Jenna and how sexy she was. I remember telling Jenna about it back then too. The only time people talk about Mary Cary, is when they're making fun of her. Jenna Haze represents what the top girl and the face of porn SHOULD represent. All natural Beauty, Class, Sexiness and someone who always brings it everytime the camera is on. Edited by - ArinsystmaticX on 8/26/2007 9:34:27 AM |
| ArinsystmaticX Deactivated User 1968 Posts 12/05 | |
| the unknown pervert Deactivated User I'd like to stay but I've got a plane to catch. 3243 Posts 5/06 | Edited by - the unknown pervert on 8/26/2007 11:15:51 AM |
| Derek117 Senior Member 1605 Posts 1/06 | IMO what Jenna Haze does score some points on is "respect" within the biz. She is seen as a honest/hardworking performer, and someone who does not engage in high school-like bad mouthing of other girls in the biz, or embarrassing behavior that gets picked up by both porn gossip sites and mainstream media. (This totally eliminates Mary Carey from consideration.) But Jenna Haze, while being a dynamite performer--and her scenes rock--she has done this work in tons of shitty videos. For no-talent directors, where the other scenes in the video have sucked. And the marketing/sales have been marginal. Contrast with Jenna Jameson, love her or not, who has starred in many sexvids that sold in the gazillions, won tons of awards, and set new standards for quality product in the biz. "Flashpoint" has just re-issued a 10th Anniversary edition, and has been on the bestsellers charts for most of that time. Ten years! Plus Jenna Haze is still an "employee" in the biz, and isn't seen as a "leader" by the other girls on ways of being more successful on a business/financial level--another thing that Jenna Jameson did. This is really what porn girls meant when they said they "want to be the next Jenna." Successful financially in an ever-changing business. None of which is knocking Jenna Haze as one of the top performers in the biz today--I'm just doing a comparison. Bottom line: one of the points of this thread is that Jenna Jameson has some really big shoes to fill...and maybe there's nobody, Jesse Jane included, who can step up. Where does that leave the Porn Industry? |
| juha Senior Member 2752 Posts 3/05 | |
| Derek117 Senior Member 1605 Posts 1/06 | The industry will almost certainly "crown" a new #1 Porn Star (Jesse Jane, Tera, or Jenna Haze are obvious choices) based upon fan support & industry marketing, and the porn press. But my question is will the new #1 be able to cross-over to mainstream celeb status like Jenna Jameson? And continue to positively represent the biz to the outside world? And, by example, recruit new, quality performers into the biz--not just girls with no other choices for paying the rent. And will the new #1 be acceptable to enough 30/40 year-old mainstream civilians to counter the stepped-up attempts by moral conservatives to shut down the billion dollar porn industry? Ultimately, this becomes not just a fan appeal contest, but a business decision. |
| purplehayes2006 Member 391 Posts 4/06 | And no, Jenna Haze doesn't has 10+ years of marketing behind her. Just an add (my 2nd edit, sorry): also there is lots of Jenna Haze movies where her scene was over the top, but you also have good scenes in the rest of the video, like in "Dirty Little Stories", "Grand Theft Anal 9", "Semen Sippers 5", "A-List 2", "Fashionistas Safado: The Challenge", "Evil Anal 2"... just to name afew. Porn Queen? sure she is. She has such a strong career and fan base in the bag, and still working harder everyday; I don't even need to talk about it, because her career and professionalism talk by itself. Jenna Haze is smart, funny and cutest... creative and talkative... adorable... and she is a strong person. Derek117 did a nice and fair illustration of Jenna's attitude in the biz: "IMO what Jenna Haze does score some points on is "respect" within the biz. She is seen as a honest/hardworking performer, and someone who does not engage in high school-like bad mouthing of other girls in the biz, or embarrassing behavior that gets picked up by both porn gossip sites and mainstream media." And for sure she has the "looks". She always looks classy and sexy. What fans think about her is very easily to see EVERYWHERE, and who meet her, always say the same... shes nothing but the best. The mainstream thing? if she wants and she has the right support, sure she can get it. But people, let The Sweet Sexy Porno Princess to do her way... :-) BTW... I find this whole thread kinda funny... Luis Edited by - purplehayes2006 on 8/26/2007 3:11:35 PM Edited by - purplehayes2006 on 8/26/2007 3:34:24 PM |
| Derek117 Senior Member 1605 Posts 1/06 | But there is also a serious side to the Porn biz--that, IMO, needs a "spokesmodel." That was one of Jenna Jameson's jobs within the industry. I believe that, over time, if the industry doesn't have a new "spokesmodel" the image of the biz--in the Real World--will suffer. And it will be easier to pass more laws that "control" the biz. Wait & see. |
| noahped Senior Member 2978 Posts 8/02 | But for fun forum discussion: hmmm most popular pornstar right now, the porn queen? If Stormy hasn't been crowned yet, it's not happening. For anybody that knows porn, Jenna Haze is it right now. Teagan Presley is still in the running. Tiffany Rayne had her chance, and I don't think Hillary Scott wants it even though she could have it. Brea Bennett could if she can figure things out and get a better PR team behind her. But if you look at popularity at conventions and appearances, Tera Patrick and Belladonna seem to have the longest lines next to Jenna Jameson's...but they still seem to be a tenth of her lines. |
| purplehayes2006 Member 391 Posts 4/06 | |
| Draxxx Senior Member 3831 Posts 2/07 |
I'm not saying Jenna Haze couldn't get to that place but as of now I just don't think she's there yet from what I can tell. |
| Uncle Fester Deactivated User I rock, therefore I am! 131 Posts 6/07 | |
| Tinaka Member 953 Posts 8/03 | |
| pis228 Member The Elusive Southern California Spearmint Rhino 88 Posts 6/07 | A picture of Jenna Jameson with tiara titled 'The Potentate' A picture of Belladonna titled 'The Innovator' A picture of Jenna Haze and Jules Jordan in a kitchen at breakfast with traditional husband and wife morning garb on...e.g. curlers in hair, wife-beater (on him). All photos taken by Annie Leibovitz of course. |
| Derek117 Senior Member 1605 Posts 1/06 | |
| Jaktarn Senior Member 4798 Posts 5/05 | |
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| Johnothan Pedak Senior Member Catastrophe 1594 Posts 6/07 | |
| JennaRulez2006 Member The Best things In Life Are Chocolate 732 Posts 11/05 | Also with so many fans buying gonzo over features, that plays a big part as well for the mainstream. Until Jenna J's movies start to lose steam, she will still be the Queen of Porn to many. Not sure if anyone will overtake her anytime soon. Regardless that alot seem to bash her, her sales seem to still be steady and no piss poor. |
| Alexander Portnoy Member Sydnee Steele, Savanna Samson or None. 275 Posts 12/05 | Edited by - alexander portnoy on 8/27/2007 8:26:29 AM |
| Clam Digger Deactivated User Many a man fails as an original thinker simply because his memory is too good. 2268 Posts 1/05 |
Stormy directs and performs. She has appeared in non-porn roles such as Fox's DIRT. I'm not sure if she has her own production company, but I am sure that if she wanted to she could. Besides her looks, she is tough, funny and appears to be a pretty smart woung woman who ghoes after what she wants. I think she has a better opportunity for that Jenna-like role in the industry. |
| the unknown pervert Deactivated User I'd like to stay but I've got a plane to catch. 3243 Posts 5/06 | |
| Drop a load Senior Member My leg hurts 1098 Posts 11/05 | |
| ArinsystmaticX Deactivated User 1968 Posts 12/05 | |
| monkey power Member Tim? 868 Posts 1/03 | If Teagan was more prolific, I'd be checking her out more often. I went her way often when she was putting out lots of stuff. I still do like her and I think she has a way of including the viewer in her act more than most starlets. You feel like she's bringing you along with her, you know? Nice kid. But the movie I checked out just the other day? Jesse in Pink. Because she's just turbo hot. And she's genuinely funny on her DVDs, which is an often overlooked thing by guys who just want to jizz (which is ALL guys.) But still, if you're looking for THE ENTERTAINER of the current day, she's the triple threat--energetic fucking, beauty, and.... a comedienne. (And Haze's fuck-faces outfuck the rest of the universe.) (And when Shyla is turning out a masterpiece, she creates a new universe via her big bang) Edited by - Monkey Power on 8/27/2007 11:48:37 PM |
| imak Adult Film Legend 3345 Posts 2/04 | |
| Anal Terrorist Member 14 Posts 8/07 |
But Stormy is HOT!
I think the days of having "one queen to represent" are over too. Not to mention, I think customers' tastes are becoming harder and harder to satisfy as well. Hence, fewer and fewer viewers are being loyal to one girl to allow for a "queen of porn." I think for the next few years we're going to have "several princesses" who all represent on a smaller level...but that's it. I know for me, my tastes change. For awhile there, I was big into Hilary Scott, then Chelsie Rae really did it for me, then Roxie Jezel, and now I'm really digg'in Taryn Thomas. So for me, my tastes rarely stay on one girl "long-term." Like a lot of people, I like variety, and tend not to have an "it" girl. But instead I have several "it" girls at once--and they change over time. And I think that's what's happening on the "macro-level" for the business too. There seems to be a bunch of "it" girls doing their thing right now. But none of whom could be honestly deemed as "current queen" per se IMO. I think this will continue to be the trend for some time, if not indefinitely. I just think the industry is different now. Just my two cents... A.T. |
| Derek117 Senior Member 1605 Posts 1/06 | Nobody seems to be able to put forward a girl with the ability to represent, intelligently, the industry with the mainstream press. Who can replace Jenna Jameson as the "Spokesmodel" for Porn. Also, what about Jenna as a "role model" for other girls in the biz. She led the way as a successful business woman in a very (owner) male-dominated industry. Example: Jenna pulled off the classic small business entreprenuership thing in starting "Club Jenna", making it a valued product in the industry, then selling it (to Playboy) for a huge payday. This could be a Harvard Business School Case Study. I repeat: this is what porn girls mean when they say they want to "be like Jenna" or "be the next Jenna." A successful business woman. Who is that role model now? |
| monkey power Member Tim? 868 Posts 1/03 | So there's like 1000 signal fires now instead of any need to huddle together around one bonfire. But if Kate Hudsen turned pornstar, I think she would automatically become the spokesperson. It would take something like that, though. So that leaves us with the question of who's going to be porn's butler. (I believe that title should go to Travis over at Zero T.) |
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