There are only a few things in life that I am certain of, and I cling to them to keep a sane head in the troubled times that we live. Just to give you a taste, I’ll spew a few of them for you.
#1 Bill Cosby loves Jello Puddin Pops #2 George Bush did not win the last election #3 Broadcast television is not about entertainment, it’s about selling spots #4 Brittney Spears, Madonna, Milli Vanilli, Lindsey Lohan and Paris Hilton have no business holding a microphone. #5Contract Porn is a career killer.
With that in mind I have seen some things in porn recently that make me believe that either fans don’t care, or producer have found the right mix of star struck fans and imbeciles.
Here are multiple example of what I speak.
#1 I rented an IR anal feature last week and there was something odd about. What was odd was the fact that the final scene wasn’t IR. When I watched the BTS it showed that the female talent was screaming bloody murder about the size of the black cock in her ass. It appears that after a few minutes of trying they had to scrap the scene and bring in “Pink Pony, Bologna” To the stars credit. She said later on that she like the Black male talent, but this guy was just too big for her.
After seeing that it made the last scene make sense and also solidified my suspicion that she wasn’t into anal at all. Ironically this star is still active and anal is no longer on her card.
#2 I rented a big booty movie with an emphasis on younger women. In the main production ever girl claimed to be 18. hell, you would have though they just blew the candles out on the cake the way they portrayed their youth. Each one professed that they were non stop freaks and needed big black pole.
Once again, BTS blew this all away. In the BTS each and every girl confessed to being in their 20’s and then tried to cover by saying some bullshit like I feel 18, or people say I’m 18. Personally, I don’t care how old you are, just don’t lie about it.
My favorite part of the BTS in this one was that they had a masturbation chapter of the talent. Tell me this…. How did you get to be a stone cold freak that can’t get enough and you don’t even know how to play with yourself? Once again, the BTS tells truths that producers continue to miss. You can talk all kinds of shit, but when it time to show your worth you can’t fake it.
I’ll give another example. I thought Nicki Hunter was nasty (Not the good kind) I thought her body, face and anything about her was busted. I saw a BTS where the guy couldn’t get hard and Nicki stayed on the couch playing with herself. All I’m gonna say is she wasn’t faking. The camera kept tilting because the camera guy couldn’t hold it steady. Nicki came harder than Chloe, Cytheria and Arianna Jolie put together. Busted or not, I’ll watch her fuck anytime now.
I could go on, but something tells me that someone might get offended. It’s time to step it up people. If you can’t make your shit hot, don’t resort to lies and deception. We know the “Screw my wife series” aren’t real, so we can laugh at that, but don’t try and fool your entire customer base, it could be bad for business.
A woman may be OK with anal, she may even like anal, but that doesn't mean she's looking for the biggest cock she can find to park in there. It doesn't suprise me that so many gals stop doing anal after they've been asked to take on monster poles day after day.
As for the rest of your rant... dude, it's porn, not a reality show. The producers are manufacturing the product they think the buyers want. It's no more real than 'real' movies. The enthusiasm doesn't have to be 'real' to be hot. It just has to be well done.
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Posted - Sep 23 2006 : 9:48PM
It's disrespectful to the audience to tell audacious lies, and doubly so to expose said lies in your own production. Selling something as a teen video with a cast pushing thirty is one of the many practices that needn't exist. Why are we so obsessed with barely post adolescent girls? Isn't if enough that they're fine looking, sexy, and not very experienced? Fantasy is something that should have a screenplay and dialogue. Gonzo sportfucking should be more real and revelatory. The best scenes and videos get that. Sometimes we get lucky and reality busts through the subterfuge.
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Posted - Sep 23 2006 : 9:50PM
No one is under oath in a porn scene. Fortunately I have a well-developed sense of irony: I couldn't watch porn without it.
I totally agree with you, that's why I don't really like BTS on fetish lines like young girls or school girls.
I directed a movie called Fresh Outta High School 1 and 2 and they both do very well but it's obvious that the girls in there are not "real" school girls. Although I try to make it as credible as possible by ; Hiring the right cast, paying attention to details like real school girls outfits, locations....
Now you know as well as I do that porn is about fantasies, and in order to fulfill those fantasies porn directors needs to create situations and role play.
Although, mainstream directors use all the time older girls to play young girls just because they look young or when Tom Cruise is playing a secret agent in MI2 everybody knows that he's not a secret service agent in real life LOL...
I just think that either you make "real" reality like the shanes world type. or that you make surreal situations. In surreal situations the directors need to care about making the concept as credible as possible so that the fans even if they know the girl isn't really a school girl, student,neighbor... can still enoy the scene.
You're right about the BTS example about the girls saying they're 21 in the bts of a movie where they're suppose to be 18, this is bad...
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Posted - Sep 24 2006 : 12:14AM
I dunno, I find it pretty funny when they do that.Does anyone take the "teen" business even remotely seriously? To me, it's just marketing-speak for movies that are mostly 1 boy/1 girl scenes, non-anal, and with girls who have been in less than 500 movies already.
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Posted - Sep 24 2006 : 12:42AM
I think a lot of people take the teen business seriously, or the producers wouldn't be pushing it. It also gives the anti porn crusaders a big, fat target to shoot at.
I was thinking the same thing. Not necessarily that the studios intend this to be the case, but it seems to work out this way.
I love honesty in porn, and love well-done BTS segments. I like to think there is some "truth" in what the performers say... but I take all of it with a grain of salt. I could care less if the "barely legal newbie" is really in her early 20's.
As long as movies/lines are faithful to what they're marketing, what's the big deal?
There is actually much more flagrant abuse of the MILF genre -- with girls in their 20's being passed-off as "MILFs." In my book, a MILF is so much more than a biological technicality (e.g. a 20-year-old with a kid). A MILF is a killer-hot older women like Kay Parker from the "Golden Age" and Vicky Vette today.
Puleease, anybody who believes all those "girls" in the teen movies are all 18, probobly still believes pro wrestling is real. Like Hardware said it's not reality, it's just a marketing thing. I personally love it when the girls tell the truth about their ages, either accidently, or on purpose during the BTS segments! That's the reality part, the rest is just a fictional porn flick!
Situational build-ups are meant to be fantasy. Pornstar dialogue may/maynot be the truth "I want you to pound me," "Your squirt tastes sweet," "I love your cum." BTS are meant to give you the other side of a porn shoot--that porn stars fart, go to the bathroom, gossip, eat like pigs, don't look glamourous without makeup, smoke--in other words, are real people too. In the end the good thing is the sex is real.
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Posted - Sep 24 2006 : 11:21AM
How about PP's gripe about interracial scenes that aren't. Chalk that one up to fantasy too? How about all those titles with monster cocks that turn out to be ridiculous looking prosthetics? Oh well, it's only porn.
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Posted - Sep 24 2006 : 12:06PM
Hardware,
It's not uncommon for you to have an opposite opinion of mine, but as always all reasonable opinions are welcome.
#1, The male talent in the scene was Marcus and even though a solid performer, he is not in the secret circle. I don't recall him Chasing the Big Ones and never stared in Up Your Ass until Lex and Sean walked away.
That said, I'm not surprised that women stop doing anal either. My guess is some are so weak minded that they get pressured. Others do it for the money and some do it because it's the only way to get cast. Either way, it's directors job to cast these titles and at least in the example I offered the director pulled the scene. My guess is the non anal portion of that scene was used in another title.
As far as my rant... Oh well, once again you are welcome to your opinion, but if that is your standard I have read a great many rants here, including some from you.
I am aware what porn is, but unlike hollywood these people aren't actors, they're performers! If I want acting, I'll rent Citizen Kane. I watch porn to see hot talent do hot things.
If you ask me the key to success of people like Jules J. and V. Styles is the fact that their work in most cases is 100% believable. Sure you can talk about camera angles and lighting, but bottom line is the fact that directors like these (Stefano , Septo and Wood included) do more than shoot and direct, THEY PRODUCE! And what they produce is quality, realistic product.
Too me that is the difference between true hardcore and feature work. in feature work hair and makeup are always flawless, and looks tend to take place or chemistry.
I've fucked young, old, short, tall, thin, heavy, black, white, christian and mormon. You want to know who the best is.....?
It's the girl who knows what she wants and ain't afraid to ask for it, or give it up Why do you think topics like "Ugly women, who really fuck" are such a hotbed around here? It's because when you take out the "Really Fuck" your left with "Ugly Women" and moderation and ownership get nervous about that.
Like most posters and readers I have fucked Top Shelf A+ solid 10 women and I'll be blunt and say that overall they were the worst of the bunch. Try telling a beautiful woman she can't fuck and see what happens. Their egos are already inflated from the attention they get and another guy will be along to stroke their ego before it even sets in that you could be right.
I would like to think that the average poster is on the inside. The inside to me means when you see a picture of Hillary Scott in a layout and it says Cheri magazine presents "Linda" that you know the bio is 100% fake and that the mystery isn't for you, it's for that 1st time reader, or for the guy that's only brave enough to sneak magazines around in his briefcase.
In the BTS I have seen women shit themselves during anal. Puke giving head and damn near ripped in two by over aggressive men. I love BTS, not for that, but because when it's done right it's real.
I've seen fights in set that explain why women are on the box or trailer and don't appear in the title. and I've seen BTS that show the intelligence of some talent, the true demeanor of people and the strong relationships between industry insiders.
Please don't attempt to insult me because I take this serious, porn is serious. People have dies from porn. be it drugs, STD's, Stalkers or alcoholism it's serious, "Dude".
I could rant for the rest of the day, but the basic sentiment of my message was, #1 Be creative and creativity doesn't mean lying or deception. #2 Respect your audience. How many times have you seen a star in their 1st anal scene or 1st IR. Yes, I understand that the 1st to shoot and the 1st to street may differ, but when I see a star do anal for 5 years and then appears in a new title boasting 1st anal. maybe you prefer 30 year old Rayveness on the box of Young Ripe Mellon's. I'll be the 1st to say that Ray is a stunning beauty and for the average person (Non porn fan) wouldn't know any different, but for me it's an insult.
Tell you what Hardware, you got my email and if you say please I'll even give you my number. I could break this one down to the ground. If you don't see the slippery slope and recognize the difference in quality between now and 10 years ago then I would have to question your knowledge of the industry.
To me the true irony comes in the fact that in most cases you rep the stars of days gone by.
We control the industry. I was one of the few people "Ranting" about how hot a revamp of Mature Porn would be. That was two years ago. Now that the slapping, spitting and foolishness is gone, MILF is the hottest new market out.
You are correct, it's the producers job to make a product that people like, and I'm just giving the type of feedback necessary to make the type of porn I like.
Whoa, obviously 'rant' holds a negative connotation for you. Sorry about that, I didn't use it as an insult. I suppose 'complaint' would have been a better choice, but sometimes I respond in a hurry and grab the first word that comes to mind.
Having said that, the health of porn performers is a serious issue, but I see nothing in your complaint, or condemnation of some industry players, that has anything to do with that aspect of the business. So, I'll make you a deal, I won't try to insult your intelligence if you don't try to insult mine. 'Nough said.
OK! First, neither of us gets to decide who is and who isn't too big. The performer does. I'm not going to put Bamboo down for not taking on a cock that Katja would approach with enthusiasm. You can blame gals for taking on more than they can handle, but, really, this is something most people do from time to time, and not just because they're greedy. Sometimes you just believe you can do more than the body really can do. As Mike Quasar said, it would be better if everybody just admitted it wasn't working and moved on to the next scene.
Second, porn actors are indeed "actors" when they are required to lie about their age, "ooh" and "ah" during their scenes, and do whatever other acting the directors require of them. We're going to have to agree to disagree on that one, Pocketcomb_Pimp.
Creativity on camera and in the editing bay is a form of lying and deception, so some lies are better than others. However, I understand what you're saying, and I mostly agree. I, too, see lots of room for improvement in the overall world of porn. I, too, see disrespect for the porn viewer. As you say, sometimes I've even been known to rant about it.
It's just that, in my opinion, whether it's features or wall-to-wall, there's extraneous fluff that I don't really care about one way or the other. The 'reality' of the particular performers, which is partly defined by my idiosyncratic response to them, is at least as important as what the director brings to the table. I don't expect you to see the same thing in performers that I see. Please grant me the same courtesy.
The marketing stuff I completely ignore. I think it's stupid to make performers say they're eighteen, and I can only interpret putting footage in the BTS that proves it a lie to indicate that the director thinks it's stupid, too.
Regarding the quality of the industry, I make no claim to expertise. I know what I know and sometimes I draw the wrong conclusions. Hopefully I can admit it when somebody points out to me when and where I've done so. One thing I do know is that I've only watched a fraction of the thousands of titles that have been released over the last ten years. What I have seen leads me to believe that today the highs are higher and the lows are lower.
That's all I have to say about that.
PS - I have no sympathy for the slippery slope argument and I'll be a happy man the day it dies a well-deserved death.
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Posted - Sep 24 2006 : 2:02PM
Marcus was involved heavily in most of the UYA's of the Lex/Mike John era. As far as his size goes, he is indeed too big for many anal newbies. It's the girth that hurts them, and Marcus is very thick. Just length can be governed. There's nothing you can do if it's stretching too much. I saw the BTS for Crema Latina where Daisy tried mightily to get an anal scene done with Marcus, but it was no go.
Girls not being really 18 or MILFs? Meh, it's just the time-honored bullshit of porn. The BTS stuff can be enlightening though to see people's real attitudes to the job and one another though.
I did like PP's anecdote about Nikki Hunter, though I've liked her a lot since the first time I saw her in one of Lex's DVDs I reviewed. Either a Manhammer or Superwhores, I'll check later.
OK, the pizza has arrived. Time to put on the Springer "Too hot for TV" DVDs on that we rented this afternoon. I hope you guys aren't going to wreck that for me by telling me it's not real as well!
I got a chuckle out of your intro, but feel after reading your post that you really, really should add a number 6 to this list.
#6 Porn is make-believe, it shares more in common with the World Wide Wrestling Federation than it does with reality. While there may be some reality in it, most of it is done purely with the intent to make money. Don't believe that anything you see is real....it's fantasy.
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Posted - Sep 26 2006 : 12:23AM
Pic, you know I know IR. He may have been invoved, but it was never Mr Marcus' Up your Ass, and he was never on the box cover. Hell, I think Santino Lee was in a couple of the early episodes
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Posted - Sep 26 2006 : 12:29AM
You know what, to me that is really a large part of the problem. Gonza was supposed to be real deal "I'm fucking cause I'm a horny ass trick" and now the people can't make the heat, they are doing aporn job of faking it.
Movies are make believe and that's why they are actors and Porn stars are performers. It's not that I am too serious about this, or porn, I'm just think the fact that the creativity is fleeting is going to wreck the industry. Anytime you got two studio guys arguing over titles like "Bang My White Tight Ass" and Bang My Tight White Ass", were done. Neither title was concieved with much tough and my biggest concern as a fan/consumer is who has the nicest ass and how badly it gets banged.
Either way, my goal with this thread was to give other fans a heads up, and to let studios know that it time to step up and put out a more believable product.
If you don't agree I ain't mad atcha and that includes you too, Hardware.
At least you can trust Uncle Vinny to keep it real, to never coerce female performers, and to always treat the ladies with respect.
Remember in the Bring em young series where he made the girls hold up their ID's to the camera. How can you not trust a man with that level of integrity and belief in truth in advertising.
That should be a standard in the barely legal genre.
Maybe that's what Gonzo used to be, and can occasionally be that in individual scenes, but what it is today is simply cheaply-produced wall-to-wall sex and fucking without the distractions or costs of costumes or props or sets or acting or any of that expense and trouble of Features. And, you know, even the "horny ass tricks" wouldn't be doing it if they weren't getting paid to be laid..
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Posted - Sep 26 2006 : 6:37AM
Uncle Vinny had nothing to do with Bring Um Young. That was Jon Dough's (RIP) vehicle. And Vinny has had charges of coercion brought against him in the past, right here in these forums, as a matter of fact. St. Vouyer he isn't.
Gonzo has become such a broad definition that it's more or less useless, like fusion or trip-hop. I don't think it's gonzo if there's a full studio setting with several cameras and a director yelling 'cut!' even though there's no plot to it.
The directors and male performers I support has never made me think 'this is fake'. I'm allergic to fake...
[/quote] Uncle Vinny had nothing to do with Bring Um Young. That was Jon Dough's (RIP) vehicle. And Vinny has had charges of coercion brought against him in the past, right here in these forums, as a matter of fact. St. Vouyer he isn't. [/quote]
He had something to do with it. I know John Doe was the Dir., but the one scene I remember most is BY 3 with Aurora Snow. Vince was the one having Aurora flash the ID, and initiating all of the dialogue.
I was 1st watching Porn back then, and I thought that all movies would be like this, unfortunatley they weren't.
[/quote] And Vinny has had charges of coercion brought against him in the past, right here in these forums, as a matter of fact. St. Vouyer he isn't. [/quote]
Yeah, I know all about that, I was being a bit facetious about that. All kidding aside, I would give Vince the benefit of the doubt.
I like it when it's real and that's what I try to capture. I will not book guys who need a needle to get their dicks hard and I only book girls I fucked before or who are recommended by somebody trustworthy.
Features are a different story, but Gonzo is just about casting. If you have people who really want to fuck together, you get a good scene.
Well said Steve! Hope you'll make it out for Vegas this year, the ADT party just wouldn't be the same without you doing something romantic with our pornstar lady guests!!!
A NEEDLE, YIKES!! Here all I thought they did was take a little blue pill. What are they doing taking dick steroids now? LOL!
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Posted - Sep 28 2006 : 9:04PM
Thanks Steve. That was my point exactly. If I want fantasy or fake shit, I'll rent a feature.
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Posted - Sep 28 2006 : 9:45PM
Wha-wha-what?? You mean it's not? Darn, and here I thought the resurrection of ECW was a "happenin' thing"...shit!
As for the anal & 'black man wif da big cockeses', I say try taking a baseball bat up your ass near daily (or even just once per week), and then we'll talk.
Daredevil, re: dick enhancement. Can you imagine tapping for the vein? YIKES!!
We all know that porn is fantasy. Just because it is a fantasy doesn't mean you have to follow the "rules" to themed movies. I am so sick of the schoolgirl theme myself. For those who are into that there is a different way to do it without it being fake as you say pp. Why not incorporate the fact that it is fantasy into the scene. Have the guy want the girl to play out his fantasy, and make him beg for it. Make it role-play!
As for girls, again I will say… girls in this business who don't enjoy certain sex acts should think twice before doing them, or even being in this business. If a girl can't stand up for herself and say no, she will never be respected or be a real woman for that matter. I am sick of hearing stories of young girls being manipulated into doing things they don't want...if you are too ignorant to stand up for yourself you aren't going to make it and all of the money you make (and the pain you take for it) will probably disappear because you are probably too gullible and desire instant gratification!
All the gang bang money spent for therapy for all the drugs you did to forget the gang bang which you only did to get your boyfriend out of jail for getting in a fight with the other girl he fucked while you were getting gang banged, well, that other time.
I'll have to agree with Steve and the Pocketcomb_Pimp. While I do believe that porn is mostly fantasy, I don't necessarily believe it has to be or always is. You get two or more performers together, who really "want" to fuck each other, with the right directors, and you'd be surprised just how "real" sex scenes can get. Unfortunately that rarely happens. Contrary to all the ranting, real sex doesn't always move units, and probably rarely does. The hottest chicks aren't always the prettiest, especially toned, thin, or young. Porn is a business first and foremost. I don't really follow porn sales that much, but from what trend I can see, the same ole stuff or crap is the same stuff selling the most. Ultimately people have to vote with their cash. If enough people don't buy a certain type of film or films with certain people in them, they'll both probably get made or used less. Money talks!
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Posted - Oct 2 2006 : 1:21AM
(SMACK) Sssssh, Tony...dammit!! A pornstar thinks highly of us pervs, let us revel in it for a couple days!
Skronk, that is friggin' poetry man,...marvelous!!
These are the girls from my latest movie [invalid URL removed]Anal Romance #3: Mia Rose, Tobi Pacific, Adrianna Nicole, Georgia Peach, Mia Bangg and Marie Luv. They all love to fuck if you give them the right guy. And that's what I did. I didn't direct the sex at all. I just shot some nice intro and than followed what happened.
Casting is key in gonzo. I rarely book a girl which I haven't fucked before. Being a performer who works for a lot of different companies helps finding the right talent.
I have a family and I need to make a living. But I could make much more money than I do by cutting costs. I purposely don't do it. I love porn and I want to create something special. And I'm not the only one. Look at the products of Manuel Ferrara, Christophe Clark, Erik Everhard or Joey Silvera. You may or may not like my or their style, but you can tell that it is made with passion.
You and some of the others you mentioned seem to be the exception to the rule Steve. But to be honest, even those directors who strive to produce truly hot, have been faked-out before. Chemistry can be misjudged, and I've heard even the best performers admit to it over the years. I don't expect perfection, but I do expect some consistency. I gotta see some of your films, even though I'm really not into anal. Hot sex is hot sex though, and if its hot, I gotta see it.
Just how can you be sure certain performers are gonna hit-it-off Steve? Really nice to see a director who actally cares though. Also good to see a director who isn't afraid to step back and just film the action. Sex scenes shouldn't have to be micro-managed like I seem to see all the time. If the performers really don't want to fuck each other, then the director has to handle it. Sometimes being a good director is knowing when not to direct and knowing when to get out of the way of the sex.
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Posted - Oct 2 2006 : 8:43PM
One of these days I'm going to combine the end of the BTS from [invalid URL removed]Anal Romance 2 with the main Tiffany Mynx/Manuel Ferrara scene and the extra sex and label it Chemistry 101. I know that nobody can successfully predict when it's going to happen, but Steve certainly recognized it immediately, just pointing the camera at the molten lava that was pouring all over the set. Then he jumped in and got a piece of Tiffany for himself. There was no acting in this scene, and even performance is too cheap a word. It caught some reality, even if it was only for the moment. I hope the new edition has some of the same fire. Maybe he caught Marie Luv on one of her horny days.
It's an educated guess. You can never be 100% sure. But knowing the people well by working with them before for other productions helps me selecting. And it works most of the time.
Does Marie Luv have any other kind of day. Lol! It's all good though, I just appreciate an honest effort, which I don't always see unfortunately. As for Tiffany Mynx, man that chick always "brings" it as far as I'm concerned. That girl needs to be giving lessons.
Steve, your last posts on ADT have to be engraved into stone...what a great sense for putting down thoughs.
So knowing people is the key..so now I know where all the hot czech chicks come from, hehe...they are surely friends of poeople involved into adult biz. Sounds logical.
Now I have to get to know some poeople in the biz to jump into it hehehe.
Feature porn is about fantasy. Gonzo is about fucking. What I want to see is lust in front of the camera,pure animal reaction it can't be acted. Chemistry is; I like that person we can get along. Lust is unmistakable, some producer substitute ahletisim or extreme acts. If a performer is lusty it wouldn't come across on the screen because the producer will micro-manage it right out of the product. Producers are making us work too hard. Why is there behind the scenes in gonzo? As it is now porn sex can barely be called sex. I made the observation before that porn has same relation to actual sex as a street fight has to pro Wrestling, hence there will always be a certain sameness to porn. Do we actually need all these position that are unique to porn, most look uncomfortable as hell, and force the viewer to stretch the imagination. Cadence is set by the producer, rhythm set by the producer, depth of penetration etc etc. How would he know what feels good, he doesn't, he's concerned with what looks good. Sex is hard-wired into us, it might need a tweak to come across on camera, although I doubt it. Let em enjoy themselves. Go manage the camera guy.
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Posted - Oct 7 2006 : 12:34AM
Lamont what about features that cast real life couples? I am thinking particularly of Nicole Sheridan and Voodoo and Brad Armstrong and whoever he is fucking at the time(currently Jessica Drake, but in the past also Stormy and Jenna Jameson). Wouldn't cases like this also provide real chemistry?
Has always been a case of semantics to me. Fucking is fucking as far as I'm concerned. A 30 minute gonzo sex scene with absolutely no passion or chemistry is just as much about acting as any feature film. Throwing a so-called gonzo label on it doesn't automatically make it hot. And if you put two or more people together in a feature, who really want to fuck one another, with a director who'll actually let them fuck, the sex will probably still be hot. I think the majority of gonzo films produced nowadays absolutely suck. I'm not nearly as impressed with the genre as many others seem to be. Hot sex is much more than simply filling many holes or catering to a certain fetish and/or niche.
Not IMHO. Familiarity isn't necessary to enjoy a hot urgent romp some of the porn star have known and performed with each other for year's meet a dame at a bar and have the best hot anonymous sex ever I believe the production method has become formulaic the producer acts as a wet blanket to any authenticity, stop and starts, keeping a distance at all times, touching is done in the most prefunctional manner possible Porn performer who profess they will not and do not wish to be intimate with their partner of the moment all this reduces the sex in porn to insert tab A in to slot B. The problems as I see it is the producers intrusion its counter-productive. The porn studs a metronome, I find myself counting. Have you watched any of the cream-pie vidz. The studs fuck the woman ass with the tip and jack-off at the very door-way, that deserves a repeat (jacks-off at the entrance while fucking) phony, contrived and now the viewers uses his imagination to fill in the loss, "oh yeah look at that cum, yeah he's cumming hard, she loves it", No. She doesn't and he didn't, what was captured on film? .Just another porn stud jacking off, just masturbation, the girl could have been across the room or at home for all her involvement, phony and contrived, would the scene have been better hotter if he'd allowed the couple to fuck to a cream-pie and shot their reactions and of their genitalia. I think so. Gonzo was, as in used to be, the BTS footage.
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Posted - Oct 7 2006 : 4:42PM
How about this? Unless you're actually on set watching every last second of uncut footage, will you then know if there is any chemistry in the scene.
It's like telling someone all about the industry they work in, but the only thing you know about it is the pictures you see in magazines.
Aplus, "porn" is all about FUCKING and "filling holes" as far as I'm concerned. It's about guys who like to (and are capable of) nailing girls, and girls who like to fuck...both parties who chose to make a legal income off of it. To each his own regarding the true definition of "porn", but if you want chemistry, go to match.com or something.
Secrets Shared By Two - review by Captain Jack
Posted - Sep 23 2006 : 8:53PM
