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Busta Hymen
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Posted - Feb 4 2000 : 8:03PM
I auctioned an adult DVD and the buyer lives in North Carolina (home State to Jesse Helms). Does anyone know if this is one of the States that does not allow this type of material? I'd love to know where on the web to research this.
Drew Black
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Posted - Feb 4 2000 : 9:42PM
Busta - I would take a sampling of the major online retailer's shipping policies. If a store like adultdvdempire doesn't ship adult titles to NC then I would stay away from doing it too.
There are very few States that have anti-porn laws on the books. There are a huge number of counties and municipalities that do. It's almost impossible to be 100% certain.
I think that Adult Video News has a section on their web site (www.avn.com) that could provide better insight on this issue. I know I've seen it there in the past but can't seem to find it at the moment.
DGF
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Posted - Feb 4 2000 : 10:44PM
How would any law enforcement know what you sent? It's not like they are opening all the mail into the state. And even if it were illegal in NC thay can't do anything to you because you are not in NC. This crosses state lines and would be Federal Jurisdiction. I do wonder under what grounds are shipping companies blocked from mailing to certain jurisdictions. If it crosses state lines it should be Federal jurisdiction not local.
Also I doubt if it's at all possible to break North Carolina law without being in North Carolina. Maybe if your state had a law against sending those videos. But as you are not in North Carolina that law cannot possibly apply to you. States cannot exercise influence beyond their borders.
Jesse Helms has nothing to do with it. He doesn't make state law anyway. He's in Congress not in the SC legislature.

[This message has been edited by DGF (edited February 04, 2000).]

Mastersense
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Posted - Feb 5 2000 : 9:43AM
Stay away. Trust me. Some zip codes are acceptable, but why take the chance.
Mastersense
DGF
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Posted - Feb 5 2000 : 2:20PM
Mastersense:
Do you have any examples of anyone getting in trouble over that? I really don't see under what legal grounds someone could be prosecuted for that. If you're not in NC, how can you break NC law? I would think that what is possible is that the package may be confiscated but I don't see how the sender could be held liable as he wasn't even in NC. And on top of that it crosses state lines.
And well, that's probably a moot point anyway as it's almost certainly an uneforceable law. I really really doubt that someone's gonna inspect the package on its way.
Maybe I'm wrong but if so can you enlighten us?
 
Janitor
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Posted - Feb 5 2000 : 3:16PM
I really wouldn't worry about it - it's one DVD. Ship thru a private carrier like Fedex.
Saki
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Posted - Feb 5 2000 : 3:37PM
I agree with Steph...unless you are a merchant who's selling into a jurisdiction that forbids porn, no agency is going to go out of their way to prosecute you. They'd much rather go after high profile companies that they can make an example of. The only exception would be 100% illegal things, such as child pornography.
Over the years, I've sold and traded many individual tapes and DVDs on the Internet, and have had no problems whatsoever. I usually have the buyer print out and sign a waiver (i.e. I'm over legal age, I'm not buying this in order to prosecute or harass the selle, I'm not going to provide this item to a minor, etc.).
Finally, it should be worth noting that in order to even view eBay listings, you have to attest, among other things, the following statement:
"5. I understand and agree to abide by the standards and laws of the community in which I live or from which I am accessing this site."
Certainly, if there ever was a problem, it would be the bidders, since they would be the one breaking the law and falsely representing themselves according to the terms of use.
Saki
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Busta Hymen
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Posted - Feb 5 2000 : 8:58PM
Thanks to everyone that posted their opinions. I had read somewhere on the internet that it could be a problem to ship pornographic materials across State lines, and there are a few States (in the South I believe) that some on-line vendors will not ship to (due to State and/or municipal laws). With that in mind, I know that NC is the home State of that "Atilla the Hun" Senator Helms. Even though he does not have direct influence over the State of NC, I'm sure the culture that lives there and keeps re-electing that type of thinker probably would have anti-porn laws on their books.
Bottom line is that if it is a problem, then it is not worth the $20 I could get for a used DVD. I do believe that 1 person selling a few DVD's will probably not be a problem though.

[This message has been edited by Busta Hymen (edited February 05, 2000).]

Saki
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Posted - Feb 5 2000 : 9:24PM
Another thing to consider is that while the laws and attitudes in the South may seem to suggest that they are very repressive places, the actual environment is often very different. For example, I used to live in Georgia, where there are strip clubs everywhere you turn.
As for Senator Helms' home state, it is interesting to note that there are several major adult mail order companies that are located in North Carolina, including one of the world's largest, Adam & Eve. The fact of the matter is that sex is good business, both for the companies and for the government (A&E provides tax revenue and employs quite a few people).
Saki
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nathanbrzl
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Posted - Feb 12 2000 : 5:39PM
BTW - I Do live in NC and I have never voted for Jeese Helms or any of his cronies. There is no statewise law against porn; especially since ADAM and EVE's headquarters are located in Carrboro, NC. You shouldn't have any problem shipping to anywhere in NC.
DGF
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Posted - Feb 12 2000 : 6:06PM
I agree Saki, I live in Georgia.
Actually the two states that apper to be most commonly restricted seem to be Alabama and Utah.

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trogon
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Posted - Feb 13 2000 : 4:56AM
Certain online stores' shipping restrictions have always bothered me. I live in Alabama, which really limits the places I can order from, even though I've never actually heard of anyone getting in trouble for receiving adult materials here. I've never had any problems getting adult DVDs from either place I've ordered from (Adultdvdnow and DVDExpress), so I'm not sure why these stores seem to think it's okay, but others don't (DVDExpress is a hugely successful business--if anyone has a reason to play it cautious, it's them, and yet they ship adult DVDs to all 50 states...). It's all very frustrating, especially considering there is a porn video rental store within walking distance from my apartment. I'll admit I'm not a native of the south, but from what I've seen, as long as something isn't bashing christianity (they don't call it the bible belt for nothing), most people aren't going to get too concerned about it.
torris
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Posted - Feb 13 2000 : 3:27PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by DGF:
I agree Saki, I live in Georgia.
Actually the two states that apper to be most commonly restricted seem to be Alabama and Utah.
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Add Oklahmoa to that list. Now I live in Utah and the only shops that won't send here are adultdvdempire and dvdexotic. So it's not like if you're unfortunate to live in a Neanderthal state you're shit out of luck. One more reason to patronize those that will ship. that's why I never refer anyone to empire or Exotic. Always sites like Divadee, AMB, Jaded etc
DGF
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Posted - Feb 13 2000 : 6:14PM
Actually I live in Atlanta. And recently I tried to order from AdultDVD but they wouldn't. Strange 'cause I had ordered from them before without a problem. I ordered from them a year ago so that made me think maybe it's the new governor but I didn't hear anything about that. So I ordered from someone else. Even stranger because I've never seen Atlanta on any banned list. And well, Atlanta has plenty of strip clubs and sex shops.
yerbud
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Posted - Feb 14 2000 : 1:35PM
I understand why you'd be concerned. The company I get satellite TV from has a XXX service (Extasy). They will not sell the channel to someone in:
Tennessee, Alabama, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Mississippi, Utah, or the City of Cincinnati
But I don't think you'll have a problem with a DVD once and awhile to any of the above. What are they going to do, ask for extradition?
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