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www.alexandrabelle.com / www.lance-strong.com

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Porn movies are shot everywhere. I even worked in Israel, Turkey, Serbia and Chile and many other places, but you can't call them a center. Except Florida for Internet contend.

The three cities I've mentioned have the big advantage that they have a perfect infrastructure of agencies, locations, technicians and equipment to rent. So everybody goes there. Talent as well as producers. Many male and female talent who work in this three cities come from abroad.

Steve Holmes

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Edited by - niterunner on 3/21/2006 2:50:21 PM

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la works because you've got a decent pool of 18-30 year olds with above-average looks who aren't making much money otherwise. they've got shiskas, bleached-hair, tijuana-titjobs and prop-4x sat scores galore there amongst the talent-base. they're universal-coinage, you can sell them to europeans, asians, african-americans, middle-easterners. the exploited blond cali-girl is what esperanto cries itself to sleep about failing at in terms of being a universal. just check out what they pay hookers from the states in the UAE or japan.

brazil's got the simple fact you're not dealing with FARC showing up and getting killed, kidnapped and shaken down constantly like any of the narco-democracies. so scratch central america because of the commies, killers, dealers, kidnappers and priests as places to do business-brazil may be a mess but it's politically-stable compared to neighboring countries.

germany and france have population going for them and pre-existing companies that can sell to a consumer-base of reasonable purchasing power.

russia and the CIS are scarier places to be in comparison to cz and hu, the people shooting there either have juice whether it's a native company or not or it's risky. eastern europe has lots of poor yet attractive white people and aren't the ukraine and cis countries in terms of being totally run by gangsters. the american and western-europeans generally get most of the take from farming those nations, despite the natives making something off of it.

asians seem to hate each other about as much as any two disparate races could within their own kind, so i'm not going to pretend to be an expert on who they're actually shooting porn with, just that japan can afford to buy it legally. japanese= close to the only ones in asia with governments that tolerate pornography while having enough money, stability and organization to get a company together. japan's a huge consumer-base, i'd have to ask dac how hard it is to find japanese-talent, at least in the US it seems to be mostly koreans and chinese, but that might be financial.
i'm also not sure how the very real racial issues between japanese/koreans/chinese play into it, but if you're going to start a porn company that's selling stuff with asian people in it to asians and maybe the west, you probably want to run the thing out of japan-most money/person-least scary government.

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Edited by - jamesnadt on 3/21/2006 10:38:41 PM

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@Steve Holmes: Thanks for the feedback Steve, BTW love your work. I wasn't aware of the extent of the difference between LA-Budapest-Prague vs. the rest.

@jamesnadt: That's an interesting politico-economic analysis. Makes you think about how anomalous the existence of a porn 'industry' actually is.

Edited by - eduardo911 on 3/21/2006 7:45:36 PM

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The porn industry is only an anomoly as far as being a legal buisness. It has always been underground the moment the technology became affordable. Thankfully, we are past amateur grainy 8mm.

The rich muslim countries have different rules for what goes on behind the mansion walls. But those people buy while they are in European countries where they do their drinking and pussy chasing.

In the US, court battles have made LA one of the most viable spots. At one time there was good Pro-Am talent in Florida, but what do you have for equiptment rental and editing facilities that are affordable?
LA not only keeps you free of prostitution charges, but you get busloads of young women coming into town thinking they will make it big in TV/music/movies. Cheap and never ending supply of potential talent.

Of the Asian countries, Japan is the obvious market. Korea, Singapore, and Taiwan are the only other economically well off countries.

Most of the world is not only dangerous, but corrupt. Since most locals will be shocked, this presents greater leverage in shaking a group down. There is a thread in the Porn News about a group that was arrested in Mexico. Mexico is actually less corrupt than the other Central American countries.
But even in countries where people are supposedly against these things, there is prostitution. So such things will always be made, just often by those with shady connections.

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Edited by - jamesnadt on 3/21/2006 10:38:15 PM

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To the extent that the law is a function of social/economic policy (as, for example, in the link between a flourishing sex industry and tourism), I leave it for others to contemplate.

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I don't agree with it at all, there are many totally professional, world class productions coming from France, Marc Dorcel, Blue One. Even JTC and Colmax sometimes produce world class stuff.

I don't agree with your comments on Italy and Spain either.

IMVHO you should do a little bit of homework before castigating other countries productions with such limited knowledge of the subject.

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Some of the stuff that made it here from Spain isn't bad. But how do they compare in volume?

Florida makes sense for internet stuff. A lot of young people who move there whose sole ambition is time on the beach. Many hot ones working crap jobs to fulfill that dream.

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Edited by - eduardo911 on 3/22/2006 7:17:25 PM

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Doyle Gatsby

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I just cannot believe how he can find these gals and how he can director them to do thoses things.

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However, as other have pointed out, currently its only legal to shoot in California because of the Freeman case.

I'm expecting more prosecutions outside of California for adult production like the CumOnHerFace.com situation.

Michael
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Now there are many companies producing porn such as Rude Britannia, Harmony, Relish, Pornostatic, Ben Dover, Killegream, Your Choice and several others.

You have to remember that it has only been legal to purchase R18 movies in the UK since 2001, so there is still plenty of potential for growth.

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Sadly, recent events may mean that 2007 will be a massive retrograde step; not only are there proposals to criminalise the possession of so-called 'extreme porn', but, even worse, a Scottish Parliament committee’s recent announcement of a 'porn summit', which looks set to try and outlaw ALL adult porn in Scotland! Dark days, indeed.

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Someone once verbally contended that New York adopted the Freeman v. California decision, too --can a state actually do that, AND make it legal, or just BS?

Dave

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As for NY adopting Freeman, not that I am aware of. The case I think people are referring to involved a criminal prosecution of a madame. In her defense, she invoked the argument that porn is protected speech and her job as a madame really isnt that much different and therefore she should not be convicted.

I dont believe that case ever went beyond the trial court and is not controlling. Also since the case didnt involve the prosecution of a production company any reference to porn production is basically considered dicta. Meaning pointless comments made by a judge that lawyers like to cite in cases but really mean nothing to the next Judge.

The next case that is going to address this issue will be the CumOnHerFace.com prosecution in Florida. That case might have serious implications for production there.

Michael
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Of course I understand that, my mistake, what I really meant was that porn was available to purchase from licensed sex shops since this time.

I tried looking on the Scottish Parliament web-site for more information of this summit but could not find any further information.

If such a summit is to be held, then the relevant stages of consultation and papers would have to go through parliament. There is no chance that this will happen prior to the elections in May 2007, and you may find that proposals to look at porn may either be forgotten or greatly delayed by this. As part of my work in local government I have been working in an area that has been reviewed by the Scottish Parliament and it has taken 18 months for recommendation to be published.
I cannot see what they will achieve by banning pornography in Scotland, as for all the movies I have watched I have maybe only seen one or two Scottish homemade films in that time. It will have no effect on the production of pornographic material and no change to sales as most people will just order online instead. Maybe it will stop people from getting ripped off too.

Also worth noting is that "sex shops" in glasgow do not have a license to sell R18 films yet it is seen as acceptable to allow their continued operation. I know that one temporarily closed but I believe this was not as a result of the content being sold.

Should ther be a full consultation regarding porn in Scotland I will do my utmost to seek support to allow consential adult films to be legally sold, bought and owned legal... I cannot do it myself, and will need a lot of help but it is time people stood up to the beaurocrats and asked them to listn to the majority and not just the voiciferous few from religious establishments and feminist groups as well as the few "do gooders" that know it all.

You just have to look at what has happened in Ipswish to see that our primitive approash to prostitution is not working... and do they really think by making kerb crawling and picking up a prostitute an offence is going to stop street workers or stop violence towards them?? All that this causes is for the crinemal gangs to smuggle innocent girls from Eastern Europe in to a live of sex slavery and pain in order to satisfy demand, while the street workers, still the sam in number will become more desperate and more at risk.

Sorry to everyone for going off topic here, just had to get my feelings on the issue off my chest!!

PS, Stuan, if you wish you can send me an e-mail with any info you have or reply to this post.

Regards,

Lee

Edited by - LeeScott on 12/27/2006 10:33:54 AM

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