Chemistry 6 is the "Orgy Edition" and in the copy on the back it indicates that "Penny Flame pushes her boundaries" and given that two of the cast members are black I'm taking this as an indication she may do a little IR. Can anyone verify this? And if she were doing anal I think this would have been duly noted as a selling point more than IR. I hope it's not just girl/girl IR because even Harmony does that.
I too am curious about this, because as a black guy who's always been a fan of her personality (and her looks of course), I'd love to see her having sex with someone who looks a little bit more like me. I'd be all over that shit.
Yup she does with tyler night, based on a trailer I've seen from the movie, I don't know the rules about linking to hardcore clips so I'd recommend you just search for a trailer for the movie, it shows her doing it I believe.
Do you mean Chemistry Vol. 4? [ invalid url ] Penny definitely has interracial sex, you see her giving a BJ and having doggy-style sex with the black male performer in the trailer. I don't really care one way or the other about IR, the male performers don't matter much to me as long as they can actually perform. What I do care about is that Penny's looking great in that movie. It's definitely going on my future purchase list. I am a bit surprised that other people haven't commented on this, or that Penny's first IR hasn't received more hype. She's such a popular performer and has received a fair amount of criticism because of the lack of IR in the past. I'd have expected it to be a bigger deal.
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Posted - May 11 2008 : 9:05PM
Vag isn't even sex. She was probably doing her nails at the time. When she does anal, there will be a bit of excitement.
Damn. 3SB beat me to it. I can't even respond to that with words. I can't believe that all this vaginal intercourse I've been having all these years isn't really sex at all. [Link]
As an aside - do porn stars fantasise about porn stars? "Tristan brings six porn stars to a secluded house for the weekend and lets them loose to live out their fantasies."
Thanks for the link. I hate to say it, but it's probably a) because her moment as the "Hot New Thing" has passed and it's not really news any longer and b) she's not a big enough star. Even she did anal I don't think it would be that much of an event. Too bad too, because I've always like Penny, obviously.
All this waiting and it ends up in a Vivid movie! I can't imagine a bigger letdown! I don't want Vivid, I want Hush Hush, Evasive Angles, West Coast Productions but not Vivid.
I don't have an answer for that but I do know that Penny Flame fantasizes about me. I'd be willing to bet she was envisioning me while she was letting Tyler Knight "fuck" her. [Link]
I know Vivid movies have a reputation for sucking, but I think this looks pretty good. From what I've seen, the amateur/reality-porn style makes it look a bit more natural and spontaneous than a lot of their contrived crap. I couldn't tell from the trailer if they were using condoms, is that one of the issues you have with Vivid?
I hope Penny never does anal. One of the things I like about Penny is that she always looks like she enjoys herself in her scenes. I'm not usually so credulous, but I really believe her when she says that she loves making porn. She's stated that she's tried anal and she's made it clear that she hates it. I don't ever want to see her do something she find horrible, it'll be obvious that she's faking it and purely doing it for the money.
That's strange because I thought the flick "Sex & Violins" was advertised as her 1st B-B-G scene. In the star crossed forum, in the Penny Flame thread, on page 39 I think, Penny sort of explains what went down as far as the IR thing, saying, "it wasn't a big deal". No Beer, No TV, Make Homer Go Crazy!
Well, the cat is out of the bag, and I feel like I have to reply to some of the stuff that's being said. It's Chemistry 4, not 6. 1) The reason there is no press release, hoopla, or cover copy that reads "Penny's First Interracial" or Big Black Monster Cock or Whatever is because the whole interracial thing is tired, problematic on many levels, and I just won't go there. It's not what I am about or what Penny is about and neither of us want to "cash in" on it or market it that way. In other words, Savoy, you're correct (although Chemistry 4 was not her first BBG, and there is nothing on the boxcover saying it is.) This issue came up with me for a movie I did for another company, and decisions were made that I did not agree with. That wasn't going to happen again. Thankfully, I have approval and say over my boxcover copy, and I *do* care about how performers and sex are represented. It is NOT as DarkPlaces said "a) because her moment as the "Hot New Thing" has passed and it's not really news any longer and b) she's not a big enough star." That is total crap. Penny won two huge awards at AVN this year, including Best Actress. Vivid-Ed signed her to direct her own line of sex ed videos, and she's been booked like crazy at a time when business is slowing down. Penny and I made a conscious, deliberate decision not to promote her work in Chemistry 4 in the usual way (as "interracial"). In fact, Penny discusses the whole "interracial sex" topic in the movie, and what she says might surprise you. We, along with all cast and crew, treated it just like any other scene, which is why you haven't heard anything about it until now. And hey Ramsey, you should give the series a try, it's not your father's Vivid. :-) Edited by - TristanT on 5/22/2008 4:08:24 PM
It's Vivid and I don't like your casting Taormino and that's why I would never buy it! I'm old school which means my porn has to be perfect otherwise I won't buy it!
Tristan, thanks for replying to this thread and providing your insights. I, too, loathe the "Her first interracial" and "Black monster cock"-type of advertisements. As a black man, I can't help but find so much of it racist. But like you, I won't bother going there in this thread. I'm only replying to say thank you for approaching sex between a black man and a white woman with the same respect that you would approach sex between any other two people of whatever races. If this happened more often in porn, "interracial" would no longer be a business decision - it would just be sex.
Ignorant Comment of the Day. Nothing wrong with not agreeing with someone's casting decisions but I can't decide if that last bit is stubborn, stupid or both. Edited by - Crucifixio_Jones on 5/22/2008 6:56:22 PM
Was just chatting with Penny online, she's doing a cam show and mentioned this thread. Not sure if she'll reply or not, she was looking real good but had to hide her boobies because it was a free chat and it's a no no to show boobies.
Sorry if it came off insulting. It was not intended as such. Penny is one of those solid, first class performers who always improves whatever film she's in, but she's just not such a superstar that this is major news. It's great that you don't pander and play to stereotypes, but if she were Jesse Jane, it would be a whole 'nother ball game and out of your hands, if not by corporate decision, by simple fan response. And her moment as the "hot new thing" has passed. I'm sorry, but it passes for everyone. Even Sasha Grey and Bree Olsen aren't the "hot new things" any longer, so it's ridiculous to say it hasn't passed for Penny. That said, I've been a fan since your column in the Village Voice and have enjoyed your video work since Evil Angel.
I don't think there's any disputing that Penny's not a "new thing" (so to speak), as she's been in the business for several years now. But that's not pertinent to whether she's "hot", is it? A performer's newness doesn't make her more appealing to me. In fact, I often find it painful (in a number of ways) to watch the performances of just-off-the-bus newbies. I'd much rather see a favorite performer (such as Penny) explore her sexuality as a woman and expand her repertoire as a performer over time. The less "new" she is, the more of Penny there is for me to watch. [:P)] ---------------- Edited by - bob on 5/24/2008 11:54:36 PM
Maybe this should be in another thread, but I'll start it here. First, this is the first time I can recall seeing Penny engaged with more than one cock at a time -- however briefly. Can anyone recall any other times? Second, if IR isn't such a big deal for her, anyone have any idea when we can expect an encore?
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Posted - Jul 8 2008 : 6:09AM
Who cares about Penny Flame? an average performer who is to obviously as fake as a wig in her scenes good body but nothing to write home about either.
^Do you ever write anything about performers that isn't negative? Of course there's a lot of fakeness in porn, but I think Penny's a performer who often shows genuine enjoyment in her scenes. Unlike some, she has a fair few scenes where she really works up a sweat.
I missed this the first time around. TristanT has restored my faith in humanity with his enlighten and progressive point of view I'm off to buy this movie.
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Posted - Jul 8 2008 : 12:46PM
It is unusual to associate class with porn. This is clearly the case. Tristan & Penny edit:fast fingers - sticky keyboard Edited by - Clam Digger on 7/8/2008 12:47:45 PM
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^I hope you don't take my inquiry in a negative way but I've noticed a trend in your posting. You often post in threads that have been dormant for a year or more and I'd love to know why you do that. I could see revisitng some threads but you seem to target threads that ran their course or threads that simply don't matter anymore.
So why did you dig up to this thread just to repeat was was already posted on May 11 2008 : 05:24:26 PM without adding anything new to the thread at all?
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Posted - May 11 2008 : 1:27AM
Tristan & Penny