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You Wish
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7/07
Posted - Jul 23 2007 : 4:13PM
We noticed a lot of choking the girls going on in dvds these days. What the F---- is up with this? Is this supposed to be hot sex? Just looked at somebodys trailers to see what to buy next. I see this guy choking the shit out of this girl while slammin her. I won't buy this crap. ever. How do you defend this BS?
RandomPrecision
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Enjoy!
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Posted - Jul 23 2007 : 4:48PM
What was the name of the movie?
Festus
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Don't let me stop ya. I just likes ta watch. Heh...heh...heh.
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6/07
Posted - Jul 23 2007 : 4:48PM
I no a girl once who say she come better when she can't be breathings well. Ask me to choke on her while she use a electric vibrator on herself. Felt weird doing it but she beg at me and swears to god she won't get hurt bad if I neck choke her.
Anyway after some pleadings and her promise of a good sloppy blow job I give in and choke her a bit. She starts up the vibratings and say do it harder and tighter and eventual she come like a big old end times type earthquake with near a minute of shakings afterwards. Haven't been with her again but it was a fun night all said and done.
I says as long as its between adults and it consinshoeal sex then let it be without no harsh judgeings.
---- I am a raincoats. One day I gonna direct a hole mess of great pornoing films and get that helping of fame and moneys I deserving for.
conquistador
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Hellhamster.
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Posted - Jul 23 2007 : 4:56PM
There is no safe way to do choking.
RandomPrecision
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Enjoy!
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Posted - Jul 23 2007 : 5:54PM
[Image not found DB]
 
You Wish
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7/07
Posted - Jul 23 2007 : 7:26PM
I don't follow? A white rabbit? The question is should a guy even have his hands around a girls throat any time?
The movie is east coast assault
Gunzo
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Posted - Jul 23 2007 : 7:58PM
It can be an act of domination, which is hot. It can also be that asphyxia makes the orgasm stronger.
Some like it, some don't. That's what the fuck is up with it.
conquistador
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Hellhamster.
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Posted - Jul 23 2007 : 8:04PM
Yeah but it's fucked. There is no safe choking.
BIGmike
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Posted - Jul 23 2007 : 8:09PM
I'm not a big fan of choking in regular sex scenes, but in domination themes, breath play or choking is tolerable. I just don't find satisfaction in the act itself, but it's like anything else, some hate some things, some hate other things, the movies you looked at are not for you.
"When they're runnin' down my country, man, they're walkin' on the fightin' side of me."
MDJames
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Posted - Jul 23 2007 : 8:11PM
See? It's not just me sounding off on this!
* MD James
stinkfist
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Subterfuge......
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Posted - Jul 23 2007 : 8:16PM
This is the only thing that should be getting choked on a regular basis....[Image not found DB]
conquistador
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Hellhamster.
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Posted - Jul 23 2007 : 8:27PM
Hard to Swallow
Article by our very own Tristan Taormino (she posts here).
Roger Herraw
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Posted - Jul 23 2007 : 10:08PM
it only looks hot if it's fake or fairly gentle (you can tell because there's no tension in the fingers, no signs of pressure on the neck)
nietzsche
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El Glorioso?
nietzsche
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Posted - Jul 24 2007 : 12:30AM
+1
 
Mr. B
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Posted - Jul 24 2007 : 2:09AM
For what is worth...if there is choking...I never buy! Period!
This goes for stuffing a fist in a girl's mouth. I can NOT tolerate such a "fetish".
Edited by - Mr. B on 7/24/2007 2:09:42 AM
RandomPrecision
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Enjoy!
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Posted - Jul 24 2007 : 2:13AM
Yes. A white rabbit. It looks nice, doesn't it? It could be any color but it's white and it pleases me.
Not my place to say. It's not my throat. Nor is it my hands.
Well, there you go.With a name like that, what did you think you were gonna see? White rabbits and daisies?
"Help me! I rented "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" and it really bothered me. I had no idea it was gonna be people getting slaughtered by a maniac with a chainsaw."
" Fuck! I stuck a fork in my eye just for the hell of it and now I can't see a fuckin' thing! Stupid fork!"
Hey. Remember the old story about the guy who went to his doctor and said
"Doc. It hurts when I do this"
What did the doctor say?
"Don't do that."
[Image not found DB]

Edited by - randomprecision on 7/24/2007 5:46:06 AM

Hateball
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7/07
Posted - Jul 24 2007 : 3:46AM
I rather enjoy choke flicks...Everytime I've "choked" a woman, it was requested. So go figure.
Search Appliance
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Posted - Jul 24 2007 : 5:47AM
Choking is all part of the rough and tumble of hot sex! Personally I prefer hard gagging to choking though.
the unknown pervert
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Posted - Jul 24 2007 : 9:59AM
And here I thought you were attempting some obscure symbolism from Of Mice and Men.
mod: nested quote removed - see the Forum Etiquette
Edited by - hardware on 7/24/2007 12:48:53 PM
YogaDame All-Star Supporter
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bien dans ma peau
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Posted - Jul 24 2007 : 12:03PM
I assumed it was a reference to Renee. But I think Random joined long after Renee left.
I miss Renee. She's one smart and level-headed person.
Tommy Kaye
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Posted - Jul 24 2007 : 12:48PM
2 words: JENNIFER LEVINS.
To each his own. And people wonder why this Industry is under the microscope.
Izabella
Tommy Kaye Productions

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3/07
Posted - Jul 24 2007 : 3:22PM
I think the poster said "Shit" not "Fuck". There is a difference of a few centimeters. I don't like choking either... unless I'm the one doing the choking. Why can't we see some girls choking the shit out of some guys. Than tell me how sexy it is?
tricia_devereaux
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Posted - Jul 24 2007 : 7:09PM
The vast majority of the 'choking' that you're seeing in hardcore videos from reputable companies is not breath play.
That is, the carotid artery and the trachea are not being suffocated. There is pressure being put on the jaw bone, or on the muscles behind the carotid artery.
Breath play is indeed risky. I'm one of those perverted girls who loves to feel pressure on my neck in a way that allows me to still breathe.
I do like breath play with experienced people, but it's not something I do all the time. It's a calculated risk - just like when I bungee jump or when I'll one day skydive. A HUGE adrenaline rush that I know is risky, but I'm willing to take that risk to experience the pleasure.
Sometimes when I'm masturbating, I'll hold my breath for extended periods of time to achieve a stronger orgasm.
nietzsche
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Posted - Jul 24 2007 : 8:09PM
How about getting slapped around? Do you like getting slapped around?
 
tricia_devereaux
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Posted - Jul 24 2007 : 8:12PM
why? you offering? ;)
My preference in that area is to be spanked.
nietzsche
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Posted - Jul 24 2007 : 8:25PM
RandomPrecision
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Enjoy!
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Posted - Jul 25 2007 : 4:27AM
No. The industry is under a microscope because buttfucking is a matter of national security these days.
Additionally, a microscope is something you use if you're genuinely curious. A nice, wide paintbrush is what you use when you want to paint an entire industry the same color.

Edited by - randomprecision on 7/25/2007 4:35:32 AM

ma meeshka
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Posted - Jul 25 2007 : 4:54AM
You Wish: i agree with your initial post 100%. what the fuck is with all of this shit? regardless of the option of consensual safe breath play, it's a fetish that should be relegated to its own series so most people can avoid it. it should not be the next anal.
Hateball
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7/07
Posted - Jul 25 2007 : 6:13AM
The next anal...hahahahaha!
Edited by - hardware on 7/25/2007 1:34:55 PM
Hateball
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Posted - Jul 25 2007 : 6:17AM
what microscope?
The unimaginative bullshit microscope?
Porn has been around since the dawn of conception...It has ALWAYS been under fire since the dawn of religion...
All of a sudden, you have inside information that will kill the idea of SEX...COMPLETELY...?!?!....Please.
You ain't crackin something new...Try again.
Edited by - hardware on 7/25/2007 1:35:38 PM
Tommy Kaye
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135 Posts
2/07
Posted - Jul 25 2007 : 9:02AM
What microscope? The one that the US Justice dept. is looking through. We "ain't crackin something new", just stating the facts. So you need to "try again". You don't have a clue, that you don't have a clue. This Industry needs to clean up its act or someone else will do it for us. Inside information? TKP has one of the best First Amendment Attorney's in the history of the justice system advising us on issues. Do you? We are also members of the Free Speech Coalition... BTW nice avatar and screen name. Have a great day!
Edited by - hardware on 7/25/2007 1:36:14 PM
Gunzo
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Posted - Jul 25 2007 : 9:16AM
Why do everything have to be a fetish? If the girl likes some light choking (I've never seen anything else in porn) it should be just as much fetish as if she like getting pussyeaten during a scene... I think this is why some find porn boring, because it caters to separate so called fetishes.
Hateball
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Posted - Jul 25 2007 : 9:55AM
Nope. I have no clue..other than history.
You also didn't state any "facts" in your reply.
Sex will be here long after you and I are gone.
Everything else will fall into place.
Thanks for the compliment BTW!
Cheers! ;)
Edited by - Hateball on 7/25/2007 9:59:52 AM
Edited by - hardware on 7/25/2007 1:37:07 PM
Hateball
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Posted - Jul 25 2007 : 10:04AM
Nope. But I like to think I read the first amendment rather than pay a lawyer to tell me their thoughts on it...
 
BigFerret
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Posted - Jul 25 2007 : 3:15PM
For me at least, I find the choking antics to be the equivalent of cock euthanasia.
Mr. B
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Posted - Jul 25 2007 : 4:15PM
Probably because for the same reason you don't see in a "standard" threesome scene one of the guys "accidentally" firing one up in the second guy's ass.
Different people have different preferences and that is why
the colorful world of fetish covers just about anything you could think. And gagging/chocking is definitely not the norm in porn, hence the variety of replies in this thread.
threesomebody
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Posted - Jul 25 2007 : 8:04PM
I think it was my buddy Mason who said that spanking is for pussies; slapping's where it's at. I'd take either over choking any day.
nietzsche
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Posted - Jul 25 2007 : 9:15PM
This thread has officially reached the status of stroke valid.
Edited by - hardware on 7/25/2007 10:48:38 PM
RandomPrecision
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Posted - Jul 25 2007 : 9:44PM
Like it or not, HB is right about one thing. It doesn't have a thing to do with choking....or pissing or anything else. Porn would be under attack in some fashion by the same people who are pulling Alfonso Gargoyle's strings no matter what.
Of course, those are the things they're most likely to go after because they're easy targets.
And porn will never be anything but the same old boring in and out if people are afraid to take risks and do what interests them. Some of this stuff, I find tasteless but so what?
And here's the thing. The folks behind the curtain on this whole thing with the justice dept. want to wipe porn off the map. They don't care if it's nice, soft couples porn, Glam posing or balls to the walls hardcore. They hate it all. That's why porn is "under a microscope". And HB is right about something else. It always has been and always will be. Nothing will ever change that. And it'll always be the same buncha ignorant assholes.
So if you think that keeping porn nice and soft and clean will keep these people at bay, you're about as naive as the next guy. That isn't their goal. Again, they want porn gone. They don't care how soft or hard it is. Anyone who's been paying attention could tell you this.
Tommy Kaye
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2/07
Posted - Jul 25 2007 : 10:40PM
Your opinions and HB's are as valid as mine are....
Trust me you don't start up a major company as we are attempting to do and be naive. That's why we pay lawyers to interpret where the current line is. I have been in this business a lot longer than most people on this board.
Of course the Justice dept, especially under the Republicans, are trying to eradicate porn, You aren't telling us anything we haven't known for years. But in civilized societies there has to be rule of law and common sense invoked as part of daily life. I quaranfuckingtee you that you are giving the government what they want with some of these "Fetishes". You are just waving a red flag and saying na,na,na,na,na to the Justice dept.
Whomever wants to waste there money trying to defend asinine practices.. more power to you brother. I am an erotic filmmaker and a business man... not a crusader and martyr for the lunatic fringe that enjoy watching young women be choked and degraded. When that becomes boring whats next? Snuff films?
So lets just agree to disagree..... Peace out :)
kripes
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Posted - Jul 26 2007 : 12:48AM
Sure there is, between two consenting people who care for each other. I would like to hear the logic behind your post
heart pure
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7/07
Posted - Jul 26 2007 : 1:01AM
ya I'm against hnad-choking. You wanna torture the throat, do it inside out (deepthroat)
dvd4dvd
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Posted - Jul 26 2007 : 3:29AM
sure why not...choke her..but you'd better have a good lawyer if you go to far!
also! if after you choke her and cum all over her face and you had the most intense hell of a fuck, then you look at her and ask her to count to 5..and she said..1..2...8..13..and 5..guess what dude?
I think the choking went a little too far, and you mighta sufficated a few brains cell up there. in which case.."you get to call the lawyer..once again".
many girls (most) prefer to be in control of the choking..
in other words. they dont mind choking a little with a cock shove down her throat, just as long as they are able to control it and pull it out. they prefer to choke on the inside rather than the outside.
if your babe begs you to choke her, ask her if you can do something else.
like slap her, bang her up the ass, come all over her, bend her and twist her like a rubic's cube. but I would try to stay away from choking, cause if you go too far, you might not be able to type on this site till you come outta prison.
most professional chokers that I've ever heard of are currently on deathrow.
take care guys
~dvd4dvd
conquistador
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Posted - Jul 26 2007 : 6:19AM
Are these two consenting people doctors or even CPR certified?
Because you know your partner doesn't make it suddenly safe to restrict their air supply.
Is there something that isn't inherently dangerous about choking?
There are enough people who are painfully uninformed that encouraging this behavior through porn isn't doing them any services. I can't think of any other porn maneuvers which, if done incorrectly, would have fatal consequences were the viewer to imitate them. (Not counting unprotected sex, of course).
Edited by - conquistador on 7/26/2007 6:43:59 AM
LadyB
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Posted - Jul 26 2007 : 2:19PM
Conquistador is correct, there is not one thing that is safe about choking - either one's self or another person.
In fact the most dangerous form of choking is what is most commonly seen in porn and practiced by people that are not responsible enough to educate themselves in technique, if they are willing to take the risk to practice edge play of any form (breath play, blood play, cutting, suturing and piercing, etc.)
When you close off the strap muscles in the throat, and the arteries on either side of the neck, as in hand over the throat/around the neck choking, you are damaging the arteries and setting up the structure for blood clots to form. I don't care if you do it once, twice or ten thousand times. And it doesn't take much pressure in that area to cause this to happen.
Make no mistake about it - each and every time that someone is choked or denied air in any way, for any length of time, there is damage done to their brain, lungs and heart. And every time that anyone does breath play, they must be aware that they could die that time.
Every person is different. Some may die the first time that they try breath play. For some it is a cumulative thing, and the problem is that you will not know which time it is going to be that finally kills you. It's like playing Russian Roulette.
There is absolutely no SAFE way to do breath play as in choking, gagging, garrotting, gas masks, suffocation, huffing, plastic bags or anything other method. Even using pure oxygen to cause one's body to overload and ultimately asphyxiate is not safe in any way.
Will people still do it? Yes. But each and every one that practices asphyxiation in any form, needs to be aware that they will die from doing it. Not "might"... will die from doing it. That sounds very ignorant and over dramatized, but it's not. If any person going into breath play of any form can not take responsibility for their own life, and in the case of doing it with a partner, their partner's life, by understanding the simple concept that "I will die from this asphyxiation/they will die from my actions in asphyxiating them," then they have no business fucking around with it at all.
I believe that our industry needs to set a standard where all performers that are considering a scene where breath play is involved, should be made to read over and sign an agreement that simply states, "By agreeing to be choked/gagged/in any way deprived air in this scene, I understand and agree that I am accepting imminent death and I consensually agree to let someone else/myself murder me on this set." It needs to be in big, bold letters.
As was mentioned in an earlier post - those that have done breath play and found out too late that it kills people are called murders. Or in the case of auto-erotic asphyxiation, suicides.
I guess the upside is that it's Darwinian in nature - if someone is dumb enough to willingly accept death just to have a really hard orgasm, then the world might be a better place without them.
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You Wish
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7/07
Posted - Jul 26 2007 : 3:29PM
Thanks guys and LadyB for making my point so well. Now directors knock this shit off already! I asked my wife what she had to say about choking, and I quote,"Its disgusting and dangerous, nothin sexy about it. It must be a guy think"
Cerebral Jedi
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Posted - Jul 26 2007 : 4:02PM
Yeah knock it off, 'cause this guy said so. You directors you.
Fucking come on. If it don't move you just don't watch it. Evidently some people like it and it's enough people for it to keep showing up IN SOME movies. So they're giving those people what they want. Why take away what they like? Just because you not into it?
MikeSouth
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Posted - Jul 26 2007 : 4:12PM

keep this practice up and a snuff film IS eminent
tricia_devereaux
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Posted - Jul 26 2007 : 4:48PM
WILL die? Not necessarily. MAY die? It's a possibility. I'll agree with you - any person entering breath play needs to understand that they are entering into an act that is potentially fatal.
When I bungee jump with a professional company, I sign a disclaimer that says that I MAY die, and it's not their fault. When I scuba dive, I sign a disclaimer that says that I MAY die. When people enter an amusement park, the fine print on the back of the ticket is a disclaimer. All of these things are an adrenaline rush. People pay a lot of money to experience this kind of rush.
I just want to make a point one more time, cause I'm not sure that anyone who's posted since my previous comment actually read it:
The 'choking' that you're seeing in videos from the reputable companies is NOT breath play. It is indeed pressure on the throat area, but the oxygen and blood supplies are not cut off from the brain. Breath play IS dangerous. Non-suffocating choking, on the other hand, is significantly less risky.
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Posted - Jul 26 2007 : 5:04PM
Sometimes though male performers almost strangle their partners grabbing them from their throath sometimes very very hard
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