Well, but I might prefer another hot mature female Latin singer from Mexico instead of all-plastic Christina >>> Paulina Rubio That´s her at MTV Video Music Awards Latin America in Miami two days ago >>>
Thanks for the pictures buddy! I like a lot of her songs and have seen her on TV numerous times via Telemundo. Love her music! Damn, I didn't realize she had such a nice butt! Thanks for the post! Post more butt shots if you have any.
why save your ir? if your a bigot fine be a biggot you can get away with it in this business, but if your not waiting is just lost money, your career starts when you are 18 whether you do or not.
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Posted - Oct 24 2004 : 11:16PM
I think "saving" or not doing IR is the best way to go no matter how you look at it. Money wise, career wise, & personally wise.
AC, we had a discussion about this issue and I thought that we were on the same page, but I guess not. First off, if a performer sticks to gonzo and never has a contract, not doing IR is going to become an issue eventually with respect to their careers and section of the fans (not that that I condone people harassing performers about what they do on screen). Would you care to explain how not doing IR is "the best way to go" for the performers personally? If you are talking about not forcing anyone into something that they don't want to do, that's fine; however, you just made a rather suggestive, open-ended statement.
I think all such choices are up to the performer. I haven't seen anyone's bank account, but given the demand for IR scenes, especially with pretty teenage white girls, and given the fairly fleeting amount of time most pretty young white girls spend in porn, I'm not sure there's any great financial logic to "holding out" on the black man.
Anal, I think there's an argument to be made, and other riskier acts involving multiple partners or double-wise ass stretchings -- i.e. a visit to Skeeterville -- well, most girls will work up to that if they think the money's good enough. The IR thing is so loaded: If a girl doesn't do it, she catches hell; and if she does do it, AC Cream is unhappy. What's a pretty white teenage girl to do?
Agreed. It's the performers prerogative (and no one else's) to make their career choices. I also realize that performers can get a payday for finally doing IR and/or revitalize and extend their careers by doing the IR circuit. I just want AC to explain the personal interest in performer not doing IR, especially if they happen to like the black man.
yes, yes, we all know what he means. but lets not get negative here. it's about as clear as the "setting limits" I hear from others here as well
besides who even said she was going to do an adult film? unless I missed that post somehow
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Posted - Oct 25 2004 : 12:19AM
I think you understand what I'm saying, but if you believe the majority of females in Porn doing IR enjoy IR off camera then I have a bridge to sell you.
Most do it for many reasons and none are all that great.
Oh, I understand you now man. You seem to be implying that most of these women are being forced to do something awful especially when it comes to black guys. We're not on the same page. That's the last time that I'll address one of your posts. Thanks for clearing everything up.
Ok, one more response. I'm fully aware of what you're saying. I gave you the benefit of the doubt even after I read that thread where Katja Kassin told you to piss off when you tried to warn her about the dubious intentions and social conditioning of black men. You have some serious issues regarding this subject and you're too self righteous and delusional to realize this fact. I'm going to leave you alone now because it'll be better for everyone. Later.
I think that about says it all...and I think Katja is obviously a genius, also!
as for Mr. AC Cream : not to worry, old pal - judging from past posts and this current thread, we all understand you totally!
"Corruptio optimi pessima..."
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Posted - Oct 25 2004 : 3:02AM
Wow, this is really off topic. But since we're here...
A.C. has a clever way disclosing his views on everything I.R. related. He uses analogies, hypothetical situations, and -- even more remarkably -- telepathy to try to prove his point. Once you weed through all of that, it pretty much comes down to him not digging black dudes doing white chicks. That simple.
I'll be honest, I don't like watching I.R. either, but I think for highly different reasons than our friend A.C.
Porn for me is a fantasy, based in reality. By that I mean I tend to enjoy porn or situations in porn that could be similar to something I would experience in real life. That's the reason I don't generally like anal creampies and ATM. It's also the reason I don't really watch I.R. that often. Why? Because I'm a skinny white guy, not a buff black dude with a tree trunk for a cock.
When I watch a scene with someone like Lex it only makes me feel inferior, and throughout the scene I just keep wishing I had enough money to buy a Ferrari.
In all seriousness, it's hard for me to fantasize and put myself in the movie if there's a black man working his sword. That's all. Nothing more.
Anyone who knocks someone for making a personal decision has issues. Same goes for the people who knock girls for not doing I.R. It's all personal preference.
I think "saving" or not doing IR is the best way to go no matter how you look at it. Money wise, career wise, & personally wise.
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Can you please explain why with facts? Which female performers career went downhill after doing IR? Lex, Slayer, Mr. Marcus pay more for white female talent than other studios?
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Posted - Oct 25 2004 : 3:49AM
not to defend anyone but i did recall that jewel denyle doing only white guys when she started out doing porn then after a certain time she then started doing black guys. if i'm correct she said she had no regrets doing her porn career the way she did.
in an interview on luke ford a couple of months ago tiana lynn talked anout how she was "forced" to do black guys when she started in porn. if anyone has noticed these days she has made the career choice to do only white guys and no anal scenes. i think everyone agrees that it is anyone's choice as to who they have scenes with and what certain sex acts they do with them. some of us may disagree with their choices but it is their choice.
and i agree with kami that one can get away with being a bigoted asshole in the porn industry. that is so damn sad.
we the people, in order to form a more perfect union...
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AC Cream Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 25 2004 : 4:01AM
1st the Katja issue was a totally different situation, but it helped somebody's weak argument in this thread. Katja got upset because she felt I talked down to her. Not because of my non-PC IR opinions. Those did become an issue later in that thread, but only because people who can't debate an issue without labeling somebody something they aren't.
Also, NO people like to think they know what I mean, BUT most don't have a clue. Others don't really care what my opinions are they just love the opportunity to try to make somebody appear to be something they aren't.
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Posted - Oct 25 2004 : 4:09AM
AC Cream wrote:Then take the opportunity right now to explain your views without doing it in a roundabout way. And try to do it without speaking for people you don't know -- i.e. assuming what someone other than yourself would think or do.
Even though many people like to fantasize about their favorite pop music/movie star gettin' nekkid and taking dick/getting eaten out/etc., the reality of it is that most of them would probably be boring to watch. Pop stars use the tease of sex to draw attention to themselves; for me, I prefer to devote my attention to the hard-working professionals who have made the choice to work in the adult industry to satisgy my needs for erotic content. Not to mention that there are a lot of women in porn who are hotter looking and sexier than most 'mainstream' Hollywood actresses.
This end statement is a very good way for me to explain my original post. I was not knocking this new girl OR any other performer working with black male talent. If IR is something she is into I expect them to be great scenes. I was knocking the culture that celebrates a girl in Porn for doing IR and pressures the 1's that come in not wanting to do IR. This was my original point, but as usual people came at me with other opinions which led me and the thread off topic.
I said that I wouldn't twice, but I'm up and I feel strangely compelled to respond to your absurd posts.No AC, the end statement does not explain the post you made that started this discussion. Kami mentioned a new girl that looks like Christina, someone asked if she did IR, Kami said "yes", and this was your response:Without knowing her reasons for doing IR you decided attack this performer's choice to do it. Unless you are in the industry (and I seriously doubt that you are), how would you know whether or not she is making this career decision simply to appease the sick fans that love "degrading" sex acts? If it is just a personal preference on her part it shouldn't be an issue (just like Diamond Dog said). However, you seemed to have a serious problem with her choice without knowing any of the facts.
skronker wrote:
I assume you've polled these women and have some statistical breakdown or perhaps a pie chart?
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Have you taken some extensive poll of female performs that proves that most of the ones that work with black men do it for the wrong reason?Do you have a valid statistical breakdown and regression analysis of survey data compiled on female performers that proves that the majority of them would never enjoy a sexual encounter with a black man on their own time or are you just talking out of your ass?Yeah well, methinks anyone who has half a brain that reads your interaction with Katja on this thread will easily come to the conclusion that you were in fact talking down to her with a smug, pedantic tone. You remind me so much of my first roommate in college. He would make the same kind of factually bereft, overgeneralized arguments, and much like you would accuse people of being politically correct if he was ever challenged. I'd actually forgotten how entertaining this type of nonsensical discourse can be.
...getting back to Miss Aguilera... please tell us this lookalike's name. I really need to start looking out for her. Does she already have IR projects planned or shot? If she really looks like Christina she'll be popular. Thanks for the good news
she's got a great voice, yes, but what are the odds of her doing an adult film? you know if she did it would be some type of artistic film with her doing voice-overs of why she's doing an adult film or something like that. there would be NO anal, NO penetration shots, and probably resemble something out of skin-i-max. you guys are killing me with this topic. then again if brittney posed for Playboy you know she'd pose next
the only reason for any of the good-looking celebrity girls doing porn might be: They must be beaten up with envy seeing all the porn starlets live out all of their sexual fantasies. And even worse, famous women in the show biz need to be very careful in limiting their sexual appetite, thinking of Paris Hilton´s destiny!
I didn't really want to say more about it but it seems that some of you still didn't get the point. I'm not doing IR because I'm forced to do it. I'm not getting paid more because it is so hard to take that only the right amount of money could finally make me do it. I like my co workers because most of them treat me with respect and are nice to work with.
For AC Cream: I love to take big black meat up my ass on and off camera!!!!! I suggest you better take care of your own business now and leave me alone.
(of course I like my white co workers, too but obviously AC needed to hear that so bad)
katja
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Posted - Oct 25 2004 : 12:09PM
white women who are saying i love black meat in my holes are scum in my eyes..they are a disgrace for the white menship!! very sad that this can be tolerated *grr*
LMFAO, now this is a funny troll. I suppose that this black man might get a visit from a group of concerned citizens in the middle of the night if the white menship knew that he thoroughly enjoys the work of "disgraces" like Kami and Katja and has often enjoyed the company of other "disgraces" in his personal life. I'm sure that the leaders of your local chapter of the white menship will discuss race trading and other pressing issues at the big meeting in the woods this Friday night.
Anytime this topic comes up the thread's hours are numbered. LOL.
Back to XXXtina -- if you saw the "Dirrty" video, it's clear she's already about the porniest of mainstream pop stars. That she revealed a surprising depth on her last album only makes the picture more enjoyably complicated.,
Posted - Oct 23 2004 : 3:43AM
