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| don juan Deactivated User 143 Posts 7/04 | Perhaps most circumcised men think their experience of sex is quite normal, just the way nature intended sex to feel, but these quotes, taken from men who were circumcised as adults, may make you rather angry to learn that you are clearly missing something deep and vital in your sexual experience. (From www.circumcision.org/adults.htm) "I play guitar and my fingers get callused from playing. That's similar to what happened to my penis after my circumcision." "After the circumcision there was a major change. It was like night and day. I lost most sensation. I would give anything to get the feeling back. I would give my house." [This man's physician persuaded him to be circumcised by warning he could otherwise get penile cancer. When the man complained of the result, the physician replied, "That's normal" and would not help him.] "Slowly the area lost its sensitivity, and as it did, I realized I had lost something rather vital. Stimuli that had previously aroused ecstasy had relatively little effect....Circumcision destroys a very joyful aspect of the human experience for males and females." "The greatest disadvantage of circumcision is the awful loss of sensitivity when the foreskin is removed...On a scale of 10, the intact penis experiences pleasure that is at least 11 or 12; the circumcised penis is lucky to get 3." "The sexual differences between a circumcised and uncircumcised penis is like wearing a condom or wearing a glove...Sight without color would be a good analogy...Only being able to see black and white, for example, rather than seeing in full color would be like experiencing an orgasm with foreskin and without. There are feelings you'll never have without a foreskin." "After thirty years in the natural state I allowed myself to be persuaded by a physician to have the foreskin removed-not because of any problems at the time, but because, in the physician's view, there might be problems in the future. That was five years ago and I am sorry that I had it done...The sensitivity in the glans has been reduced by at least 50 percent. There it is, unprotected, constantly rubbing against the fabric of whatever I am wearing. In a sense, it has become callused...I seem to have a relatively unresponsive stick where I once had a sexual organ." A rather sad awakening, I think, for those men who were circumcised at birth and had no accurate means of gauging just what they had been deprived of by this barbaric and totally unnecessary procedure. And with at least 60 percent of males in the U.S. having been mutilated in this fashion, perhaps it's best that the facts described above do not become more widely known anytime soon. [Link] |
| croy Platinum Member Discovry 4574 Posts 3/04 | |
| GaySatyr Senior Member Half dirty ol' man; half horny ol' goat! 1684 Posts 10/00 | The only real advantage I see to having an intact foreskin other than its being a great extra sex toy is in anal intercourse: I'm almost always a top because I really don't enjoy getting fucked in the ass; however, I've discovered that being fucked by a guy who is intact provides a whole different experience. Essentially, the cock slides within its skin sheath, reducing the "burn" while allowing full motion and sensation -- a much more enjoyable experience. ~ GaySatyr (ABB) Edited by - GaySatyr on 1/18/2005 10:17:35 PM |
| licker Senior Member Heretic, Iconoclast, Skeptic 1141 Posts 8/03 | Men circumcised at birth regard their loss of sensation as "normal", and a few appear to be in a permanent state of denial about it. Those circumcised as adults know exactly the level of sensitivity they had while intact. High enough that it would be impossible to wear clothes with the glans uncovered. All circumcised males wear clothes. Quod erat demonstrandum. |
| Evil_Rip Senior Member Power overwhelming 1117 Posts 12/99 | |
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| galain Member australia 10 Posts 4/03 | Not trying to flame - just posting my experience. |
| licker Senior Member Heretic, Iconoclast, Skeptic 1141 Posts 8/03 | |
| lou sapphire Member Take the plan, spin it sideways. 685 Posts 9/02 | |
| galain Member australia 10 Posts 4/03 | My foreskin retracted just fine. It wasn't tight at all and wasn't limited by a tight frenulum. I lived in a warm climate and I picked up a few infections under there. I saw one doctor who advised me to get it cut off, but I didn't want to so I shopped around. The next guy I saw said I could use steroid cream, but in the end he said my choice was either walk around with cream oozing from the end of my dick whenever I had an infection (not that often BTW, but still too often for my liking), or lose it. I'd heard about this loss of sensitivity and I didn't want to get circumcised at all, but eventually I gave in. The past 12 years I've been like "What the f...? Jesus, what have I been missing out on..." Like I said, and like you've no doubt noted from other posts here, my experience isn't shared by everybody. I have talked about this with a friend of mine though - who is also a GP (we met after my surgery), and she told me that she knows many men circumcised as adults who experience greater sensation like I did after the surgery. Horses for courses I guess. |
| Evil_Rip Senior Member Power overwhelming 1117 Posts 12/99 | Yes many are against it being done on a helpless child. Whereas in your case you made an informed decision as an adult. |
| galain Member australia 10 Posts 4/03 | I hear you. I had to front this last week, which is what urged me to post again on this topic. A good friend of mine is about to become a single mother, and had asked me for my opinion on circumcision. All I could say was that it was the best money I'd ever spent and I wished I'd been done at birth, but I had a very hard time working out if this was a decision anyone should make for a young child without reason. Either it's just one of the many many choices parents make for their children on a regular basis, or it isn't - and that depends entirely on your point of view. Working in an allied health field myself, I'd be much more concerned about vaccinating my children than circumcising them, considering some of the research that is coming out recently. Permanently altering the immune system and possibly the nervous system is pretty big decision to have to make on someone else's behalf as well. BTW - if you think choosing to have a baby circumcised is cruel, you should have seen what my parents chose to dress me in in the 70's! |
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| don juan Deactivated User 143 Posts 7/04 | I can't help thinking that those posters that claim to like being circumcised are simply trying to rationalize their situation to themselves in order to avoid some otherwise rather very unpleasant conclusions. |
| GaySatyr Senior Member Half dirty ol' man; half horny ol' goat! 1684 Posts 10/00 | ~ GaySatyr (ABB) |
| Captain Cock Member NL 172 Posts 2/05 | Out of interest, have you yourself experienced both sides (sex with and sex without a circumsised cock)? If not, what makes you value the opinion from a guy on a website higher then the experiences from people who have had both? I'm damn proud of my one eyed torpedo , you guys are just jealous . |
| licker Senior Member Heretic, Iconoclast, Skeptic 1141 Posts 8/03 | |
| GaySatyr Senior Member Half dirty ol' man; half horny ol' goat! 1684 Posts 10/00 | I have no problem with circumcision, per se. There are certainly a number of reasons and situations where it is a reasonable option. However, I do think that it should be an informed choice made by the individual and his doctor -- not an automatically tabulated item added to the cost of birth as it usually is here in the USA. I think it should be limited to those whose religion requires it or where there is medical need. Social convention is not a reasonable justification for the procedure. ~ GaySatyr (ABB) |
| Captain Cock Member NL 172 Posts 2/05 | |
| MASAMUNE Senior Member 1452 Posts 12/04 | i think only some people who get circumcised lose sensation. it depends on how the nerve endings are arranged on the penis when you are young. the end of the nerve endings are the most sensitive, nerves grow slightly differently from person to person....and it just depends if these endings were sliced off or not in the circumcsion process.
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| don juan Deactivated User 143 Posts 7/04 | |
| MASAMUNE Senior Member 1452 Posts 12/04 |
i've heard of cases like i described anyway |
| croy Platinum Member Discovry 4574 Posts 3/04 | |
| Janitor Retired Porno movies, sexy videos, xxx. Adult DVD Talk at your service. 6409 Posts 11/99 |
I have intimately known two men who were circumcised as adults. Both were much happier with their sex life post operation. That doesn't mean I believe in circumcision at birth. I see valid arguments both ways. |
| shelby69 Member 36 Posts 4/04 | Just a few key words here I think......barbaric, unnecessary, and mutilated.. How any loving parent can subject their perfect, healthy baby boy to this procedure is beyond my comprehension.....if it becomes a medical necessity or an operation of choice later in life, so be it. At least then some form of anesthetic is used.....but to strap down or pin down these babies and cut off living, healthy flesh and to claim that it doesn't hurt as they scream .......just don't get it!!!!! Add to that lovely mental image that I just left you with, the fact that I am now with the first un-cut man in my experience and am loving his foreskin every chance I get... |
| Ivory Sex Object by Proxy "We all want our time in Hell." 647 Posts 8/04 | |
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| galain Member australia 10 Posts 4/03 | "...Also, in this thread, both you and the other pro-circ poster admit to having an injured or unhealthy foreskin before the cut, so claiming to have "had both" is perhaps a little misleading...." Licker - if you're referring to me you're mistaken. My foreskin functioned perfectly. It wasn't tight, it retracted easily and quite spontaneously upon erection, it felt good during sex. As for "unhealthy" - well thanks for that. I lived right on the tropic of Capricorn where the weather was consistently humid and the temperatures very high pretty much every day. I showered twice a day, and was (and still am) scrupulously clean. For whatever reason I developed an infection under (actually - on the inside of) my foreskin, which returned several times. It was uncomfortable and I sought treatment for it. Read my post again. I did not want to get circumcised. I never considered myself or parts of my body as "unhealthy". I had heard about this loss of sensitivity, and my God, sex felt pretty damn good to me already. I didn't want to lose the sensations I was feeling then. Circumcision was suggested by the first doctor I saw and it freaked me out enough to go and get a second opinion. My circumcision made an enormous improvement to an already fantastic sex life. I'll say it again - I didn't want to get circumcised. I'm so very glad I did. The pleasure my circumcised penis gives me is something I will never stop marvelling at. I'm just sharing my own very positive experience. It's a shame that people will try and twist it into something negative just because it differs from their own. |
| cochise Member You gonna pull them pistols or whistle dixie? 238 Posts 12/03 | |
| fredrikka Member 72 Posts 8/05 | Circumcision is a primitive cultural tradition in Africa and among orthodox Jewish people. But in modern civilised US?? It's really bizarre. And the excuse that circumcision prevents bacteria and infections doesn't hold up, because foreskin does not lead to bacteria or infections. Another excuse I have heard is that it's done to prevent American men from masturbating. If so, that's outrageous! To violate a person's body and integrity like that should be considered a crime. And psychologically it enforces guilt to human sexuality and bodily senses. Causing hypocrisy and contradictory double morals in America. Circumcision does make it more difficult to masturbate, and so release energy and tension through orgasm. I believe this leads to much frustration, and consequently aggression among American men. This aggressive behaviour shows very clearly in American male porn performers, along with a kind of panicky desperate determination pushing to reach ejaculation. I think it's sad, and don't see how the tradition with circumcision can be allowed to continue in a modern country. The tradition is probably not very old either, since it isn't rooted in a common religious cultural background, but rather stems from modern health or moral ideas. Edited by - fredrikka on 3/23/2008 11:46:21 PM |
| kaiser1one Member Dark Avatar 142 Posts 10/07 | They must not have retracted early in life. I did it when I was 4 and since on. Heck I didnt know I was uncut until I was like 17 cause NOTHING in school talks about circumcision. Even the friggin diagrams they show kids when they seperate boys and girls didn't show a foreskin, it merely showed an erect penis. So looks like we can blame public schools for the way ppl think as well. ALL my friends are cut BUT only one of them agrees on how unneccesary it is at birth. The other got "converted" to our thinking after watching an episode of Bullshit!. Before that, he was another one of those ppl that went "ew" at the word of foreskin. |
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Ouch |
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Loss of sensation is a fact. How much? That is what's unknown. |
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