Any suggestions for movies where the women really enjoy themselves and have real orgasms. We like to watch as a couple, and a movie where the women really are being pleased would be more enjoyable for both of us.
Listen to Blondie. She knows of what she speaks. I can vouch that features directed by Toni English and Veronica Hart strongly emphasize female pleasure.
Real Orgasms? Vary depending on who you talk to. We've all seen Meg Ryan and Billy Crystal at the table in the diner.
If you are in search of couple friendly videos/dvds, might I suggest most of the titles from VCA, Vivid, and Adam & Eve. Other companies such as New Sensations have some tamer material but also some much harder.
I suggest hitting some of the retail sites and finding some titles that look interesting, then check the reviews on this site. Many are extremely well written and very comprehensive of the content.
Good point, bjones. It's hard enough finding scenes where the woman even appears to get off, and I assumed that's what 99Swede meant, since there's no way of knowing anyway. Everyone is different, and as long as the female has a good time and fakes it good, that's all I ask, lol.
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Posted - Aug 12 2002 : 5:12PM
I think the last time I saw female orgasms that I felt were truly genuine was in the heyday of amateur porn (I mean REAL amateurs-not the so-called amateurs you see today). I'd imagine a good actress can even fake the muscle contractions. When I see a woman is "flushed" around the chest I at least know she's aroused (I don't think even the best make-up people can fake the "flushed" look). At least this tells me she's probably into the sex (either that or embarassed as hell).
Something's getting under my skin about this discussion, but it's not clear to me yet. I think it has something to do with denying the variety of human reaction. It also may have to do with the fact that brown and black people don't visibly flush. I think it's why I asked 99swede to give her definition of "being pleased" because I've seen women who try a porno then think that because a woman onscreen orgasms [or acts her orgasm] *differently* than she does, that the actress's portrayal is *invalid* or false. I think my cognitive dissonance will be eased by starting a "describe your own orgasm" thread on Sex Talk.
Hi this is Mason, female director for Elegant Angel. This is my very first post so I hope I get this right! I noticed there was a demand out here for productions that depict women enjoying themselves/having real orgasms. Mason's Dirty Trixxx (a movie I just happened to direct) is chock full of girls having real multiple orgasms, enjoying themselves while getting thoroughly and sometimes very roughly fucked. It's an interesting take on the orgasmic pleasure that girls can receive from an aggressive, sometimes degrading, fuck fest. Check it out and let me know what you think! mason
ps thanks to BIGMike for showing me the ropes out here on the site!
quote ILMR: "Something's getting under my skin about this discussion, but it's not clear to me yet. I think it has something to do with denying the variety of human reaction. It also may have to do with the fact that brown and black people don't visibly flush. I think it's why I asked 99swede to give her definition of "being pleased" because I've seen women who try a porno then think that because a woman onscreen orgasms [or acts her orgasm] *differently* than she does, that the actress's portrayal is *invalid* or false. I think my cognitive dissonance will be eased by starting a "describe your own orgasm" thread on Sex Talk. "
See, that's not how I read 99Swede's post at all. We certainly know that there's many different ways of having an orgasm. On the rare occasion that I do see it depicted in porn, I just love seeing the differences, and don't discount it at all. The problem is that it is rarely shown in any capacity, not that it's just different, so Swede99 is absolutely correct about the dearth of movies that focus on the female's pleasure, and HIS question was valid. Instead of being argumentative, why don't you offer some suggestions?
1. Mason, thank you for posting. I saw Dirty Trixxx last week because my favorite, Michele Raven, was in it. I liked it. I have a Q: in her scene, there was some true bathroom nastiness; did you guys clean it extra-well to make her feel safer in licking everything, or did you leave it dirty to make it more degrading? You don't have to give the publicist answer because I already bought it, saw it, and orgasmed [vendi, vidi, vini?] watching it; you can tell the truth. Also, did Michele really faint during that scene or was that scripted? And in the first scene, with the cum on the corn on the cob, whose messy house is that? and did you make Katie clean it up? In the second scene in the cage, were those real animal cages? If yes, where was that filmed? In scene 3, was that real money? If yes, did you make Summer and Tyce accept payment for the scene with the body-fluid-covered bills?
2. Hi, DB. I didn't say that 99swede was calling porno orgasms fake, but that others have told me this. 99swede did not say there was a dearth, he just asked for movies with them, with "women..being pleased." He wasn't making a judgement. And I will offer some suggestions, as soon as he answers my question, after which I will be more able to accurately and effectively recommend movies to him. It *is* a valid question to ask him what he and his partner visualize as "women..being pleased" because people have different conceptualizations of this. You and ElA director Mason, for example, have different ideas. I, for example, think that Chloe works hard to get her own O on in every scene, but a poster in another thread said he thought she was the worst faker. That's why I thought it would be a good idea to start this thread on Sex Talk, to talk about the variety of displays of female pleasure, and to show, from my own life, that because "hollerin'" is involved doesn't mean women are faking the pleasure.
ILMR: thanks for the interest! First I must say that Michele is by far my favorite as well. I owe her many thanks for the hell she was put through for that scene (ofcourse she was in an orgasmic haze throughout). She's a fucking trooper. Anyway, the answers . . . per Michele's request we left the bathroom the way we found it. She wanted to be degraded like never before, and the bathroom filth only enhanced her demoralization. And yes, Michele really did faint, and it was NOT scripted. I had to stop rolling because I had never witnessed anything like that. I was all frantic asking her if she was alright, to which she replied, "oh, this is nothing!" She totally freaked me out. The messy house belongs to me and my brother. We've lived there together for a few years. And we love to have porno chicks come by and do a regular thorough cleaning! Yes, those were real animal cages, dog kennels to be precise. The house belonged to a very famous urban clothing designer, who housed many prized Rottweilers there. It was filmed in the Hollywood Hills. And yes, that was real money. And Summer, being the "whore" that she was, gladly accepted her body-fluid covered bills as payment for a scene well done, with a smile. Hope that answers everything. Thanks for your inquiries. And I hope we can get back to the subject of WOMEN GETTING OFF IN PORN! Because I'm all for it. Just not the fake shit!
Something about this thread is bothering me as well. How sad that no one else has even offered suggestions, but perhaps they simply can't think of any..
No offense to Mason and "ILMR", but your hijacking of this thread in the way you have is in extremely poor taste. My COMMON SENSE tells me that 99Swede was not asking to be regaled with descriptions of this type of degrading to women porn. He would have no problem finding that kind of stuff if that's what he was looking for, as common as it is.
I ask that the moderator lock this thread now. Once again, we have seen how simply wanting to see some hot porn that doesn't degrade women is impossible to even ask about without being intimidated. This is very disturbing.
I just watched a movie with women having a good time, it was Assgasms 1, which is sort of like Seymore Butts' version of a Sodomania Slopshots--excerpts from full scenes including the cumshot. These are from Seymore movies up through 1996, and even in his early days, Seymore always had the girls (often Shane & Yvonne) at least pretending to be having the time(s) of their life. I had forgotten how manic and fun his older material can be.
The Seymore back-back catalog is available on DVD (crappy Sunshine versions), and his mid-career material is due for gradual release over the next couple of years in more carefully made editions, so if you can tolerate the anal emphasis, you will see lots of female fun, or at least portrayals of it.