This is my first post here. This ends up being my first question since it ocurred to me recently. I am sure it has been asked before, but why are there no Asian men in porn? I am not referring to the specific Asian porn with all Asian casts, but to North American porn. There are female Asian stars such as Asia Carrerra and Kobe Tai who have been successful, but where are the Asian guys in American porn? Asian American men do have sex don't they?
i've always wondered that exact same thing. i am asian and i think there should be more of us in the biz. i personally will offer my services to any porn company out there.
This will be an obscure reference I'm sure ... several years ago I bought "Pussy Hunt 11" on VHS from Leisure Time (yeah, I know) for the express purpose of seeing huge-breasted Rhonda Baxter, who uses the name Galaxy here. Appearing in a few of the other scenes on the tape as a performer, and in this scene as an observer and photographer, was a muscular guy who certainly had Asian ancestry, I couldn't tell from his looks his exact background, but one or a mix of Chinese/Japanese/Korean. I believe he spoke unaccented Amerian English, so he didn't seem to be a foreigner. Perhaps someone will remember who this was.
I personally think it has something to do with cultural differences and fewer oppurtunites. In a similar way, and I use 'similar' very loosely, lots of Asians play football (=soccer) in the UK at schoolboy level, but few seem to filter into the professional leagues, with none making it so far to the Premiership (the creme de la creme of English football). Many have argued that its as a result of cultural differences i.e. that a sports career is not as respected and secure a profession as say, for example, Medicine or Law is.
Also, I'm sure that porn is in less demand in the Asian market as it is in Europe and the US. Many Asian men may not be that knowledgable about the market as say a European would. Europeans are far more exposed to the 'Eighth Wonder of the world' that is porn.
Finally, I feel that Asian men may not be given a fair oppurtunity. There surely must be lots of Westernised Asians wishing to venture into the paradise world that is porn.
Actually, it could be cultural differences and greater opportunities, if you know what I mean. But a fair helping of racism, as well. I suppose it's the same combination of reasons you don't see many Asian men on TV in any capacity, but every TV news station has an Asian woman or two.
I agree with Ramsey. I think racism is part of it but maybe there just isn't a lot of asian men that are trying to get in the business. We should be given a fair chance. I personally think that I would be a great porn stud but have no idea how to get my foot in the door because of my race and I think that's not right.
No offense to Asians, but I think the reason has to do the fact that they are not that "well hung." I am sure there are some but in the U.S. and Europe porn guys usually are pretty well hung, if you watch Japanese porn, they guys are pretty small looking. I am straight and all but when I watch porn I want to see chicks being fucked by really big dicks, if a guy is small the scene bores me. If an Asian dude happens to be well hung, then I have no problem with him being in a porno! I heard somewhere that Samoan guys are really big, maybe we will see one of them in a porno soon..
Thanks for the info. Apart from a few examples, it does seem that Asian guys in American porn are a rarity. People seem to like Asian women though. But there are no big name Asian guys like there are for Asia Carrera, Kobe Tai etc.
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DELLPORN Deactivated User
16 Posts 8/03
Posted - Sep 19 2003 : 9:22AM
I have thig thing for asian females so I have watched a lot of none censored asian porn. I am constantly amazed at how puny the asian guys are in those movies are. The biggest guys are about the size of my middle finger and rest are under 3 inches. Now nothing is 100% so I am sure there are a lot of bigger asian men. The thing is I have never seen one of then with a bigger dick than Julian st Jox and I think St. Jox is too puny dicked to be in porn.
It's not just porn. Asian men are seldom treated as "sexy" in American culture, one Newsweek cover story notwithstanding. Think about how chaste Jackie Chan or Chow Yun Fat's roles are in their HOllywood movies compared to other action stars' obligatory girlfriends.
On the other hand, Asian women are treated as sexually desirable in our society and frequently matched in the media with non-Asian romantic interests. They had Lucy Liu dating Taye Diggs on Ally Mcbeal with no hint of any Asian boyfriend for example. Meg and Jennifer Tilly, Tia Carrere get "sexy roles', but don't even admit to being Asian (at least not overtly). The two guys who are Asian or at least part Asian who get romantic partners in their movies, non Asian ones at that are Keanu Reeves and Rob Schneider, but notice that most people don't even know that these guys are Aisan. (Dean Cain too).
Porn may not be mainstream, but it tends to exagerrate mainstream prejudices and fears. So we get, 1) huge penis fetishes, Normally it would seem weird that average-sized males ( I assume the core audience) would identify with this, but they do. 2) Sexualization of Black Males as Mandingo instead of regular guy types. there's no black Ed Powers or Randy West in the industry. For the most part black roles are for guys with big penis for group sex on white girl. 3) Obsessions about tiny-Asian submissive women as objects of conquest 4) the near complete absence of Asian men (I suspect because as a group Asian men are the most economically threatening to American manhood) along with another missing group Middle Eastern men (though there are some in porn they just don't let it be known).
Porn, however, is just porn. In some ways, the whole point is not to be socially or politically correct and that's part of what makes it fun. At the same time, it does reveal some things about our culture that should be examined when we're not masturbating.
Good observations tux. I think there are a lot of truths in porn that reveal hidden prejudices that people have, or at least things they do not want to talk about openly. Like a lot of white guys are into watching interracial videos for the naughty thrill of it but wouldn't admit that in real life (most of the time).
Change will come but it will be extremely gradual and take years, especially as there are an increasing number of biracial or multiracial (who's to say sometimes, really?) porn actors with "exotic" looks and the world is becoming increasingly diverse.
Yeah, he's also on westcoastgangbangs.com with men of other races/ethnicities/cultures/whatever you wanna call it, which is pretty cool, but yeah... doesn't show his face.
Rick (from asian-man.com) said he will release some DVD's soon of his movies. He used some pretty big names, girls like Taylor Rain and Crystal Ray for example. I look forward seeing them also because he shoots a lot of creampies which is always great.
I agree with the complaint that the media here in America tends to make eunuchs out of Asian men, while super-sexualizing Asian women (see www.angryasianman.com; this guy collects examples along with other instances of racism in general against Asians), but I do think it's a different issue in porn .... in the entire time I've been directing, I've only found one Asian guy who was even trying to break in, a college kid who was pretty half-hearted about it and who I found had a hard time in front of the camera (he does a scene with Annabel Chong in my POISON CANDY, Heatwave, 2000).
I'm sure a Asian guy who truly had what it takes would actually be in demand, particularly in feature work. And Aaron 0617, there are probably more Hispanic guys in porn than you realize ... it's just that they don't all "read" that way.
Remember the realities of what the overall population breakdown really is, and it all makes more sense. If anything, there's far more black male performers in porn, percentage-wise, than there are in the population. But just like the NBA, it's because they tend to be more "gifted" ....
Yeah! it's time for a Yao Ming in porn! :) Where is he?
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752 Posts 8/03
Posted - May 22 2004 : 3:59PM
i know the stereotype that Asian men have small units, I watch alot of JAV movies lately, it's the only thing that interests me right now - there are lots of guys with small dicks but there are a bunch who are above average for civilians, like 7" maybe a couple 8" guys i've seen. I have yet to see a guy with a Brandon Iron type dick in Japanese porn.
Seems to me that the stereotype of Asian men as eunuchs and nerds is lessening - i see some pretty cool looking Asian guys on the streets and some pretty scary ones - Vietnamese
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Posted - May 22 2004 : 4:04PM
I could have sworn Wanker went on Howard Stern a year or two ago about some contest looking for a big Asian man to be in porn. Am I remembering correctly?
While I'm on the topic, I get a little tired of all the ridicule Asian guys get about their micro-dicks. I watch a fair amount of JAV and there's one thing for sure: what Japanese guys lack in size, they make up for in *load size* and *accuracy*. I'll take a needle dicked Japanese guy any day over an uber-coiffed Peter North any day. If I could count the number of wasted loads that guy sent sailing over the chick's forehead....
One thing to consider, certainly, is... I don't know the exact numbers, but are porn exports to China and elsewhere in Asia (that aren't tightly censored and regulated like Singapore) increasing a lot?
Obviously it would appeal to Asians to see Asians in porn, just like how a lot of Chinese tune into the NBA to watch Yao Ming. :)
Overall I appreciate diversity, and I feel that black women in porn sometimes "get the shaft" (in a bad way) too.
Chico Wang here is of Asian descent, isn't he? I am sure he would have some good insight as I have read numerous insights from him before.
It will be interesting to see how things turn out.
I must make a distinction between porn and american porn. There is a huge Japanese porn market domnated almost entirely by japanese men. I've seen east indian porn movies with all east indian guys and latino porn with mostly latino men, etc. In america you primarily see black and white men. There should be no racism in porn and there should be no forced diversity. Black dicks in white chicks or white dicks in black chicks. Now we want asian dicks in spanish chicks or silver dicks in orange chicks?? come on. If there is a large enough niche market to support your specific racial pairing fantasy movie then good for you, but I doubt it.
Additionally, there is also a sizeable portion of the Japanese portion that has Japanese men with white women, as well as a number of markets that have not been catered to their full potential (whatever that may be). Where opportunities arise they shall be exploited, but sometimes it's easy to miss the obvious -- or for legal reasons historically (i.e. in the case of S&M and fisting), bar product from being sold. I've seen it time and time again... people are like "blah blah blah, it won't sell, it will never work!" and they have been proved wrong, Yes, time and time again. It's easy to cite hip-hop culture as being a powerful cultural force today, but just a few decades ago, it clearly wasn't that way. The interracial market caters to openness and breaking boundaries and anti-taboo attitudes, to name a few.
I by no means want a "forced" diversity -- that's kind of like affirmative action-porn gone wrong (LOL), but popular tastes do change and more and more of the world is becoming multicultural or at least multiculturally aware. Singularity is myopic, and variety is the spice of life, hence why there are so many kinds of porn for so many kinds of people and this will only continue to expand instead of homogenize. It can be a chicken and egg problem, a story without a start or end. America isn't the only porn market in the world -- porn is kinda a human thing after all -- and crossover appeal, like in the music industry, cannot be underestimated.
Hentai, while animated, is but one instance of something which was once whispered but now shouted all over the Net. Silver dicks in orange chicks? You got it there. :)
We'll see what happens a few decades from now . . . I will observe keenly because there are always neat twists in the story.
If it was that simple, you could make a fallacious case like the following:
-Why aren't there more black mathmeticians? They aren't smart enough, that simple.
-Why aren't there more white rappers? . . .
Your statement veers close to flame-baiting. There are well over a billion people of Asian heritage in the world (if you consider East Indians as Asian as well, even more!) so someone must be having sex -- as well as expanding their own homeland porn industries. Not to mention the ""numerous"" (quotations within quotations) Asian men in places like California and Vancouver. As has been well discussed elsewhere on this thread, there are a number of issues involved. Yes, size is one of them. But certainly not the only one... after all, a minority of a minority can shine (Eminem? Yao Ming? Tiger Woods?). That's time-tested and true.
If anybody finds any Asian guys, let me know. I'll be the first person to give them a test shot as an Asian myself.
Yes, I did go on the hunt for an Asian male pornstar. It was a futile exercise because most of my search didn't really amount to anything except a bunch of genetic mutants.
The primary reason why I went on the lookout was to find a 'pure' Asian. Most of the job seekers were either half-white or helf-black. Now I wanted to market the content towards Asia where a half Asian simply would not work.
I wanted genetic, not generic for this attempt. However, in the video world, I don't care as long as they can keep their dick hard and control a scene. On Asian Internet sites, you have to keep it pure. Perhaps due to the xenophobic nature of the main credit card countries: Korea, Japan, China.
Only in porn can you say "I'm specifically looking to hire full-blooded asian men only!!!" and not get sued!
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kerrville, texas 39 Posts 5/04
Posted - May 23 2004 : 3:56AM
That asian-man is a joke. He covers his face and I believe he might be Mexican. These type of losers that shoot POV and cover their face figured it is cheaper to pay for porn girls and recoup their money back on the internet than pay an escort for privates. These type of face-less wannabees are flooding the internet.
It's kind of odd isn't it? If I want to create Internet content for, let's say, an Asian guy and White girl line, I don't want to hide the guys face. Last thing the Asian market wants is an "Asian" guy with freckles and light hair.
One of the best things about this place. You can actually hear from people in the industry on topics like this. I'm very glad to hear that some of the supply side folk have been looking for Asian males to be in their movies.
Does he have to be all that endowed? It might be interesting to build a character or a hook around something else. Maybe the guy could have incredible staying power, huge pop shots, maybe just be very seductive and gentle with the women. I suppose you could even do the martial arts thing or just reverse the stereotype. He could be shy, have trouble meeting women, have a locker room scene where guys make fun of his size, and then by accident some woman finds out that he's got sexual superpowers...
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jaydee Deactivated User
17 Posts 5/04
Posted - May 24 2004 : 12:45PM
hi i am a half-asian male, i do look more like my asian side, i think asian men are more into business jobs than being a pornstar, i wouldnt mind being a pornstar and i think people need a demand to see them
It is a major and very significan reason. You dont see many little dicks in porn and I have yet to see a hung Asian in any Porn I have seen, I have seen a lot! In fact, most likely the Asian men cast in these porn videos are much more endowed than the average. Yeah maybe its not the main reason but its the biggest...
Nope, there's are content of him out there (like the WCGB) and you can see his face clearly, he's Asian, not Mexican.
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kerrville, texas 39 Posts 5/04
Posted - May 25 2004 : 6:53AM
Please post it. I want to see his face. I joined the asian-man site and felt ripped-off. He advertise that he is asian, but when I watch the video it is a faceless, fat, hairy, brown skinned guy with a Mexican Accent. I was dissapointed also to read his stories that he met the girls at a club, gym, etc. and convinced them with his good looks and charisma, when in fact I know the girl is a porn star on 20 other videos and website.
hey chico, i'd love to get a tryout from you or any other interested producers. the only problem is that i live in pennsylvania and this isn't exactly the porn capital of the world. i'm 100 percent korean and would love a shot. maybe we can work something out.
Well if we see Asian guys in porn, great but lemme just say that make sure they are endowed please. I want to see some gaping asses and little dicks wont cut it.
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