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fredrikka
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Posted - Jul 24 2007 : 7:16AM
I need a good all around computor, for constructing web pages and handling business transactions and with good picture.
I have limited space, so I would like to combine TV with computor if possible.
Do flatscreen TVs (like a Sony LCD) have brighter colors than computor screens and better play of DVD films?
And if so, can the TV be used as a screen for the computor instead of a computor screen?
croy
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Posted - Jul 24 2007 : 10:18PM
Some TVs can be used as monitors - you will have to check on each model seperately.
My understanding is that TVs show better DVD and television images because of the refresh rate, but a regular monitor is better suited for graphical tasks because of smaller pixel size and higher resolution. My memory on this part might be off though.
GaySatyr
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Posted - Jul 25 2007 : 12:27AM
There are a number of televisions which double as computer monitors. They do a decent job but don't match the resolution of dedicated computer monitors. Of those I've tried, the Viewsonic models seem to be pretty good.
A better option might be to get a good, large-screen computer monitor (Dell 24 or 27 inch, for example) and add one of the Hauppauge HD DVR tuner cards to your computer.
~ GaySatyr (ABB)
Edited by - GaySatyr on 7/25/2007 12:30:05 AM
fredrikka
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Posted - Jul 31 2007 : 7:47AM
How are the big Apple flat-screens?
conquistador
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Posted - Jul 31 2007 : 11:28AM
I am in total agreement with GaySatyr about this. If space is at a premium for you it would be an excellent way to go.
I haven't had a proper television for almost 5 years, all of my TV and movie viewing is done on my computer.
Edited by - conquistador on 7/31/2007 11:30:04 AM
 
LubeNLuv
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Posted - Jul 31 2007 : 4:58PM
There are a couple mainstream "all in one" home computing/television devices out there. HP and Sony both market models that you can pick up at Best Buy pretty cheap (by computing standards anyways). In both cases, the systems come pre-configured with DVR capabilities, video in/out and Windows Media Center functionality. They are aesthetically pleasing and look more like consumer electronics than computers.
Here's a couple of examples for you to consider:
HP IQ-series Touchsmart
Sony Vaio LS Series All-in-One
Both platforms start around $1600 or so. I've looked at both and the screens are absolutely gorgeous. It's also nice that everything is pre-bundled and works together as advertised. PC Magazine gave the HP a pretty decent review.
GaySatyr
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Posted - Jul 31 2007 : 7:38PM
See: [ invalid url ])
Edited to quote material from the link:
These are large-screen LCD television monitors (no tuner included) that double as fairly good computer monitors. You just have to sit back a bit. The original site has links to specifications and pricing which I did not duplicate.
Edited by - GaySatyr on 8/2/2007 12:37:36 PM
fredrikka
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Posted - Aug 1 2007 : 9:29AM
This Sony all-in-one has a beautiful design. The picture even seems to be more detailed than all of Sony's LCD-TVs (resolution 168 hex 1050!).
The only thing I don't like is that the keyboard is wireless, which means the hassle of having to change batteries when using the computor much. It would have been more solid with wires, which could be plugged out when watching TV.
Edited by - fredrikka on 8/1/2007 9:32:50 AM
Loraine
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Posted - Aug 1 2007 : 11:48AM
LubeNLuv
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Posted - Aug 1 2007 : 2:44PM
Being a Mac user myself, I would have recommended that model. However, the fact that he will be constructing web pages means he may be better served on a Window's platform since it still maintains a much higher market share overall. Development tools will be more abundant on the Window's platform as well.
Re: the wireless keyboard
I understand your concerns about battery life, but you'd be surprised how long these things last anymore. I bought a set of AA rechargeables and have been using them with a Logitech cordless keyboard/mouse combo for well over a year now. Heavy use each day, at least 4-5 hours of fairly constant activity on my PC, and I'm changing the batteries MAYBE every other month. It's really not that big of a deal when you look at true power consumption. For example, you clicked on this post and then spent several minutes reading this post. If you reply, typing it out may take a minute or two. But that's like 2-3 minutes of keyboard/mouse activity for every 7-10 minutes of use. If you watch DVD's and/or surf/read the web, it's even less.
Long and short: I wouldn't let the wireless keyboard concern you. Quite the contrary, that makes it easier to adjust your workspace to your liking without cluttering the desk up with ugly wires.
fredrikka
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Posted - Aug 2 2007 : 9:56AM
Thanks. It's always good to get perspective on things.
I don't imagine that this slim Sony package can be both a great computor, TV, AND DVD-player, all in one. Are there plugins for my separate DVD-player and stereo loudspeakers?
I don't exactly know how it appears in real, but a 19" screen may still be too small for TV watching from your favorite chair or sofa, with the screen by the wall or neatly placed in your bookshelf. You probably need to have it on the table right in front of you like a computor. Hopefully they will come with more models with larger screens.
LubeNLuv
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Posted - Aug 2 2007 : 2:06PM
Valid points there. 19" won't look great unless you are within 6 feet of it. And for use as a computer, you'll still need to be within a foot.
All-in-One's are just that, really. Everything rolled into one, but no one thing really better than a stand-alone equivalent. The specs on the box are pretty good actually....great visuals (as you've noted) for a 19" display, the CPU is OK (dual core), RAM and graphics horsepower good but not top of the line, etc.
If it were my money, I'd opt for a nice plasma display and a good laptop. The Plasma can be used as a monitor if you really want to do that for playing games or for working on a big project, but you'll need a long cable to reach the laptop.
But if space really was at a premium, and your viewing distance wasn't likely to be that far away, I'd strongly consider one of the All-in-Ones linked here. Dorm rooms, bedroom system, etc. But for my living room? Nope.
fredrikka
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Posted - Aug 3 2007 : 3:53AM
Some reviews on the [ invalid url ]
LubeNLuv
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Posted - Aug 3 2007 : 2:20PM
I got a chuckle out of the guy who reviewed it as "not bad but not great." If you read his review, it basically boils down to this:
"It worked great out of the box.
-THEN- I fucked it up by installing a new OS over the one it shipped with. Since then, I've had nothing but bad stuff to say about this box."
LOL
Rule number one of buying any Windows PC....don't mess with the OS.
GaySatyr
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Posted - Aug 3 2007 : 3:23PM
That should read: "Rule #1 with any Windows PC -- NEVER upgrade the OS -- always wipe the drive and do a clean install."
~ GaySatyr (ABB)
 
LubeNLuv
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Posted - Aug 4 2007 : 2:15PM
I dunno....my experience with Windows laptops has been even doing a wipe and fresh install with a new OS still leaves me with gaping holes in my drivers, resulting in stuff that used to work fine not working at all or working differently. This is especially true of consumer-grade equipment from Sony, HP and the like. It seems like they infest tons of crapware into their shipping versions of Windows that, once removed, eliminate certain "features" that were attractive on the boxes as shipped.
Upgrading from my last Mac laptop to the MacBook pro, however, was ridiculously easy. I hooked up a firewire cable between them and pressed the "migrate" buttons on each....everything, including applications and passwords, xferred over without a hitch.
Really cool technology...upgrading the way it should be.
The fundamental problem with Windows has been and always will be the insistence on the use of the registry. It's a mess and makes upgrades almost not worth the effort...I'd rather throw away an old PC than wipe and replace or upgrade the OS on a Windows box.
fredrikka
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Posted - Aug 6 2007 : 8:34AM
Here is another animated review. I think it looks kind of small next to the guy. Great as a computor screen, but probably too small for a TV watched from a relaxed chair.
It seems like you can plug in stereo loudspeakers. At least on the Sony VAIO VGC-LS1 model. They sure have a lot of models that look exactly the same. I guess it is the complexity of the computor and size of memory that differs between the models?
Edited by - fredrikka on 8/6/2007 8:39:37 AM
LubeNLuv
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Posted - Aug 6 2007 : 1:22PM
Sony is notorious for offering multiple model numbers of essentially the same product with only minor differences. It doesn't help that the different versions of Vista essentially create 4-5 "versions" of each model offered. Then you've got those models offered via online sites only versus the electronics/superstore versions of same. Throw in all the various bundled software solutions, CPU and system specs and it's an enormous array of models that really aren't that different.
fredrikka
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Posted - Aug 15 2007 : 10:05AM
The Sony VAIO LS series have "S-video inputs" rather than "Component-video inputs". Will this weaken the picture quality noticeably?
To answer my question, I found this page, if anyone else is interested.
Edited by - fredrikka on 8/23/2007 9:25:49 AM
LubeNLuv
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Posted - Aug 23 2007 : 4:35PM
Component video in/out always trumps SVHS. HDMI trumps Component.
However, you might find a digital VGA input. Many DVD players support DVI out...mine does.
fredrikka
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Posted - Aug 29 2007 : 4:50AM
Sony just came with [ invalid url ], but I don't know if that would work.
Edited by - fredrikka on 8/29/2007 5:04:25 AM



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