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V-Boat
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Posted - Jun 5 2012 : 1:52AM
Hi y'all,
I'm pretty new to the whole cloud thing (well, the "cloud" idea itself is pretty new I guess) and I'm looking for some good alternatives to backup/archiving on external hard drives. I have a constant fear that my hard drives will die and all of my old projects will be lost. I'd feel much more secure with a good cloud service.
But which one do I go with?
I figured I'd ask here because I figured some of you tech-minded people must have dabbled with cloud storage and have some opinions on your experiences.
I can tell you that I would ideally like to find a good price for 1TB storage, with the possibility of more in the future. I will probably be using it more for archiving than back-up; that is, essentially like an external hard drive I can easily retrieve files from rather than a back-up that overwrites with whatever new versions of files are on my machine.
I look forward to hearing your thoughts. And if there are any questions I should be asking about my needs that I haven't already addressed, please let me know. Cheers!
Harri Patel
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Posted - Jun 6 2012 : 1:11AM
Google Drive charges $50/month for 1TB. Jungle Disk, one of the services which rents you space in amazon.com's server farms, seems to charge much more, unless I'm making a mistake in my GBs-TBs gizzintas.
Plus, unless you have some kind of seriously fast business class internet connection that doesn't have the typical much slower upload speed than download speed that residential DSL usually gives you, I can't even guess how long it would take to transfer that much. Weeks? Maybe months?
Are you sure whatever you're looking to archive is really that big, and so important that just keeping a couple of extra copies on external drives that aren't all kept in one place isn't enough?
V-Boat
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Posted - Jun 10 2012 : 7:15PM
Thanks for an alternate perspective, Harri. You're right, it might not be worth it for me to seek that much cloud storage for the stuff I'm looking to archive. I'll keep exploring other options.
Cheers! :)
cubesnake
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Posted - Jun 15 2012 : 4:16AM
well, i would always prefer a "cloud" in my own house. I don´t like my data to be stored on outside locations. A big NAS is nice
Cube
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Posted - Jun 15 2012 : 12:13PM
If you're worried about losing your stuff in a fire or to theft then go rent a safety deposit box at your bank and keep your backup drive(s) in it.
 
V-Boat
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Posted - Jun 15 2012 : 11:48PM
Hardware:
That's an excellent point-- If I recall now, I once read somewhere that if you have a hard drive that you just keep aside and never turn on, it has a much much smaller chance of going corrupt. (that is, hard drives go corrupt from use, not from sitting on a shelf)
Can you tell me, to the best of your knowledge, is this correct?
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Posted - Jun 16 2012 : 2:46AM
[invalid URL removed]Why hard drives fail.
jayo All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jun 22 2012 : 11:41PM
I wouldn't trust anything entirely. If it's important, make multiple backups.
I seriously don't trust The Cloud. What happened to that online file storage outfit (sorry, I can't remember the name) where the owner was arrested? Happened a couple months ago. I believe his site (and stuff on it) went *poof*
Obviously Google and Amazon, et al, are less likely for that to happen, but shit happens. Stuff gets corrupted on their end just as it does on yours. Or "lost." Or someone decides your stuff is infringing, or illegal, or you owe money, and suddenly your account is locked and your stuff with it.
I think you're better off getting a couple of plug-in hard drives, putting stuff on that, and refreshing it every so often. MUST HAVE stuff I'd have on hard drives, maybe a flash drive, and burned on CD/DVD-ROM. Chances of everything being lost at the same time is much, much less, and you have direct access, not some 3rd party.
jayo All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jun 22 2012 : 11:45PM
There was also a story on NPR a few years back about people who were using Google Docs, or the equivalent somewhere, to run their business. Worked great until something went afoul and Google locked their accounts--suddenly, no business records.
Internet businesses are like any other businesses that provide some important product or service: you're at the mercy of whomever controls the On/Off switch.
Bill All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jun 23 2012 : 1:59PM
No it didn't. You're thinking about Megaupload. There were concerns that would happen. But it didn't. The owners of data were allowed to retrieve their files before the site was completely shut down.
jayo All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jun 23 2012 : 2:23PM
Thanks. I must have misread/misremembered an article somewhere.
ninja1
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Posted - Jun 23 2012 : 2:49PM
^From what I've read and heard, the law-abiding users of Megaupload are still in limbo; they can't get their data. For example this June 12 article.. I was a Megaupload premium user, and I can assure you there was no warning or opportunity to retrieve my files. It was working fine one day, and FBI-seizured the next. It would have been impractical/impossible for the FBI to give advance warning of an impending raid. IMO those unfortunate people who have been deprived of their data will be regarded as merely "collateral damage" in the fight against piracy. Which (IMO) doesn't bode well for the future of cloud storage or cloud computing. I wouldn't trust my data to a cloud company without also backing it up on a HDD or DVD or whatever. And if I'm also backing it up on HDD or DVD or whatever, why bother with cloud storage? But that's just me.
Edited by - ninja1 on 6/23/2012 4:11:36 PM
jayo All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jun 23 2012 : 4:21PM
Because redundancy pays off, especially when memory is cheap. My point was that any single storage solution is risky.
ninja1
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Posted - Jun 23 2012 : 4:44PM
I agree with redundancy; but there various flavors of redundancy
HDD (stored at home)
Another HDD (saved at the office or safe deposit box)
Another HDD (saved somewhere else)
DVD
USB Flash drives
CF memory cards
A server at home
Print everything on paper and store in a file cabinet
etc etc.
As redundancy options go, cloud storage is waaaay down low on my list, for reasons:
1) You need a super-duper fast internet connection to make upload times tolerable.
2) The monthly storage fee.
3) You never know when Dept of Justice and MPAA will get itchy fingers again and who will be the next target.
4) Businesses collapse all the time.
Bill All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jun 23 2012 : 5:10PM
Thanks. I guess the last time that I read about this was when the government was saying that access would be granted to the owners of the data.
 
cubesnake
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Posted - Jun 24 2012 : 2:42AM
in times of facebook and such sites where users strip naked with all the data they provide cloud storage seems to be the next logical step before getting rid of your front door in your home and inviting every smack who want´s to know something from you
Cube



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