I am writing to see just how many others out there are TIRED, SICK of the porn with pretty much 100% of the guys having 9-12" cocks...WITH! the woman not even getting wet much less showing any sign of orgasm herself,- but OFTEN, VERY OFTEN she shows signs of pain OR she shows just "going through the motions" of the sex scene for the producer with her moaning and/or saying things like "give me that big cock". PLEASE: Feedback is appreciated. We KNOW not all you guys on this forum have 10-12 inch cocks, so please give your input. My and my friends DO NOT have but 5-7 inches and our women are extremely happy. [mod edit: fixed ALL CAPS subject line] Edited by - killbillvol69 on Jan 7 2011
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Clams Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 7 2011 : 5:34PM
The women are there to get paid, and to go home with as little hassle as possible. If the guys have 1 inch peckers, that's fine, they don't care.
Personally my girl likes my cock rock hard and I can feel her cervix and even her IUD, if it is not solid I can certainly tell the difference in her level of pleasure but obviously all girls are different and porn aint real life.
^ Same here...I can feel your girls IUD too. J/K I can hit my girls cervix too and she loves it. She gets so wet it runs down my ass when she's on top. When I move certain ways I get the occasional "ouch" out of her and that's a super turn on for me. Sounds like george78 has a smaller cock and is just hating on above average gents such as myself and JJ.
Women like fucking men with big dicks. That's what I've been told. By my mom, for instance. Her and my dad have been divorced since before I was even conceived, but every now and then she will wax nostalgic about my dad's enormous pecker (the big cock gene skipped a gen in my case) and how that was the one thing he had going for her. My high school girlfriend also liked men with big dicks, and eventually she broke up with me for a man who had a big dick. She said that one of the reasons she didn't want to be with me anymore was because the sex with the new jew was "more intense." I could be wrong, though. I hope I am. Because I alternately loathe and idolize dudes who pack heat. Life would be so much easier with a titanic schwanz.
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george78 Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 7 2011 : 11:02PM
Uh, NOT. Noone is hating on anyone. Can't you read?? This is a post that is genuine and as others have posted, porn AIN'T real life.... I have average and have been with 39 women in 28 years and ALL were satisfied and we were close. I only had sex with those who I was close to and we could talk openly about things. They stayed with me and kept staying with me wanting more for 8-months up to 2-years, even married for 10-yrs. NO COMPLAINTS. Let me tell you something, THEDUDE008,- noone, and I mean NOONE appreciates comments like yours. They are un-called for and in-appropriate. You wanna be an ass, go somewhere else to be one. I asked for kind input and feedback ONLY.
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george78 Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 7 2011 : 11:12PM
Almost 40 women have told me that anything over 7 inches was too much and not needed. They also said that 7" or less was very satisfying. One female friend of 40 years told me that 7" made her bleed. Her Ex was 7". I have about the same and approx. 93% of the women I have been with have felt good, tight, tight enough even and me and my GF and our friends who are behind the TOPIC I posted all agree that is has been and still is getting really OLD seeing ONLY guys with 10-12 inch cocks and boob implants in porn these days. TheDue008 had to respond in a hateful manner. We do not operate this way in a forum or elsewhere. We appreciate your feedback very much.
Alright let's calm down in here folks, no hating's going on. George is just chatting about how annoying it is to see girls looking bored while getting pounded with cocks the size of baseball bats. It's nothing many other porn fans haven't noticed before and complained about right here at ADT.
eh who cares. I've been with over 100 women. Ive had women break up with me and go back to their ex boyfriend who they told me had smaller dicks. When a woman is really into you no guy with a bigger dick and bank account will matter. If she's not into you then pounding her with your 8 inch penis and getting her off does nothing for her emotionally. Penis size matters but there does become a point where it's irrelevant. Meaning if you have a 4 inch penis she's probably not going to be satisfied and you better learn to give good head. However if your hovering around 6,7,8 inches then you shouldn't be paranoid unless your dating a true size queen who's into you for physical pleasure only. Case dismissed.
A 5-7 inch cock is not enough for the cameraman/director to work with. They will have to re-think their entire repertoire of camera angles and sex positions and such.
A guy with a smaller cock can bang the lady harder and faster without making the lady uncomfortable. Smaller cocks also work better for DPs, DPPs, and DAPs. Big cocks are good for close-up shots and nice and slow action. But big cocks aren't the best for showing hard-and-fast sex. There is something to be said for normal cocks too. Porn-films need to have a diversity of cocks to show well a variety sex-action with the sexy lady. Edited by - Dan on 1/8/2011 11:19:28 AM
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A-ten Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 8 2011 : 11:18AM
Be for real. If they took a real tape measure to most of these guys, they would fall into the more realistic realm more often than not. Take Steven Holmes. One of the only porn stars I've ever see list a realistic measurement. He said he is about 7 and a half inches to 7 3/4 inches. Yet on camera he looks like one of the longest dicks in porn. Lex in an interview said he is about 9 to 9 and a half inches. He is definitely one of the biggest in porn. Most of the dicks you are watching are 6 to 7 inches long on fairly short men with above average girth here or there. Stop being delusional from the billing. It is the camera work that is making the dicks look bigger than they are. Showing just about anyone's dick close up going into a pussy will make it look bigger. Most porn stars are pretty small or at least have small hands and feet to continue the illusion. I'd love to see someone honestly take a ruler and cloth tape measure around in the porn industry and get real measurements so some of the insanity about dick size would be dispelled. But I know that isn't going to happen because the myth of dick size for all male porn stars is important to the sale of the product.
You can feel my girls IUD? WOW! a transatlantic cock? bravo! she has never mentioned you though obviously keeping all the pleasure to herself your a very special guy. Judging by your tone I take it you think I am lying? ah well I can live with it I was not ego boosting I can assure you. But I can honestly say there is a significant difference in her pleasure when I am fully erect and not so, she tells me, but she could be lying or maybe it coincides with her cervix lowering signifacantly and it is this what is making all the difference I dunno.
Um..the part about me feeling your girl IUD was meant to be a joke. Sorry that you misunderstood me. And as far as your length I don't doubt you one bit. I'm sure I'm not the only dude that can hit the bottom of girls va-jay-jays.
Just goes to show not everyone reacts the same way: when I hit my wife's cervix, she complains that it hurts, and to back off. Um, and just to be clear, I am not swinging a tree trunk sized utensil.
There are some big dicks in porn, but I agree. There is a fair amount of fibbing going on as well. Just like the petite girl can be made to look like she has a huge ass, a dick can appear bigger than it truly is. As for the OP and his comments, someone else mentioned it. A regular or small dick disappears in the girl and you can't really see the penetration. I imagine it would also be really hard to cheat and open up to camera with a small wang. Girls who aren't excited probably wouldn't be with a 6 inch dick either. It's just a job.
To the OP, I think it's simply a sign of the times. Seems to be a higher percentage of female performers who prefer them than before. A lot of the directors say they are simply easier to film, plus penetration shots look better. A high percentage of male fans simply think it looks better or simply think the women prefer them. The women's real pleasure is secondary though. Doesn't matter much to me though. The best directors or cameramen get hot shots or capture hot action regardless of what the guy has IMHO. Sure it's probably easier to shoot the huge-dicked guys, but if shooting porn was truly easy, everybody and the father would be doing it.
If you want the truth then this thread should be open only to chicks. My guess is that bigger is always better to a girl but at ceratin point they don't want you to put the whole thing in. Of course this runs contrary to a guys general desire to put it all in. The result is that depending on the guy's desire for penetration and what agirl can handle there is some sort of dependent optimum. My guess just on some fundamentals of evolutionary biology that the optimum size is generally smaller for asian and skinny girls and larger for black and fat girls. All that being said there is probably an overall optimum that we will approach and whatever that size is if the girls knew that it would be successful in advance they would angle for that and get wet accordingly. Please forgive any gammar and spelling mistakes. Also please forgive me if I have left out any connecting ideas. In order to get a point across efficiently sometimes we have to assume some common knowledge. Does anyone hear what I am saying? Ladys? Gentlemen? I'll come back and edit this tomorrow for spelling and grammar but nit content. Late. [ invalid url ]
Nah, in fact I rather have a natural aversion to it. I thought that maybe if we cut to the chase we can have done with it and move forward onto other things. For instance how us guys dig hairless chicks (advantage Asians and Latinos, generally speaking of course). PS - In these sorts of context "generally speaking" isn't something poetic but rather mathematical. It means in aggregate and if "in aggregate" needs defining then this is going to take a long time. That is if it is possible at all. Do you get what I am saying?
Somehow, my previous comment double posted. Now that I have deleted it I'm going to take this opportunity to say: [ invalid url ] Edited by - Lacrosse Lacock on 1/9/2011 6:08:44 AM
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mikesalami Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 9 2011 : 9:49AM
I'd be interested to see what some of the female pornstars have to say about this.
Bigger is not better. I've gone on about this many times in many other threads.
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Bert Piel Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 9 2011 : 10:39AM
Exactly. Only the homo crowd is obsessed with dick size.
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george78 Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 9 2011 : 8:29PM
VERY WELL SAID! It's ALWAYS nice to see "NORMAL" people--"NORMAL" sex. EX.-- Normal sex doesn't have every position and then the guy cums on her face. Simply not real life. I know a lady who is BBW and she enjoyed a man with a 4 INCH cock she said. Me?? I have had NO complaints out of 39 women during my lifetime. Truthfully???..they each stayed with me and when we DID break up, it was ALWAYS over some issue(S) or problem(S) OTHER than sex. NEVER was it over sex. I have a friend who has 5 INCHES and he is married of 17 years now and STILL they are happy sexually. Like KillBill said, it's all about discussion, not hating or bragging, etc.
Wow it is truly sad to see what this industry has done to guys and how they view themselves and their members.... I think because of porn the whole penis pill enlargement industry exploded (pun intended)... I can tell you from numerous conversations with pornstars that for pleasure purposes anything over 7-8" isnt enjoyable for most women... And remember who my fiance is....Vanessa Blue. The big dick guys came into the industry because directors where lazy with getting the right angles and shots. Big dicks are easier to shoot and easier to light. Most measurements are over inflated and most male stars' "dildos" are made larger to keep up the fallacy. Most of the time the angles used to shoot the dick and the lenses the videographers use make the dick & tits look bigger. And the mere fact that so many male "straight" fans focus on the dick in the scene is also incredible. As an industry we have taken the focus off the women and put it on the dick. That needs to change.
Isn't the reason why Marc "Dick of Death" Wallice was so preferred for anal is that his thin, banana shaped prick was the perfect size for anal scenes. And I once read in a review a hilarious account of Jeanna Fine taking Sean Michaels "knitting needle" prick in her ass. So while I love to see someone like Rocco, Peter or Manuel stretch out a tight sphincter with their "fence post dicks" I can imagine after awhile it would start to chafe on set.
I will say three things: 1) As far as pleasure, I've always been told by women that it is all about girth. 2) Correct me if I'm wrong, but the wide-angle camera lens that is almost always used in gonzo porn makes anything close to the camera look bigger. Just compare the Evil Angel Rocco movies to the ones he did in the U.S for Vivid. You will notice that his dick looks notably smaller in the Vivid releases, which don't use the wide-angle lens. Finally, 3) I cannot bear to watch a scene that features skinny dicks. It just looks lame. Part of the wow factor for me is seeing the girl take a nice thick cock, or else what is she moaning and groaning about?
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mikesalami Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 10 2011 : 5:08PM
Personally I like to see a big cock in scenes... just doesn't do much for me when it's a guy with a small cock. I'm not necessarily talking ginormous, but along the lines of Mark Ashley or Mike Adriano. Someone like Shane Diesel of Shorty Mac are too big me me. Other good ones... Justin Long, Sledge Hammer, Lex, Brandon Iron... and other guys whose named I don't know. Edited by - mikesalami on 1/10/2011 5:44:36 PM
Thank you Kimi. I don't know why guys don't understand/believe this. The only other qualifier that I could add is that extremes at either side of the size spectrum are unfulfilling.
I would think that how the guy uses his tongue (and even lips) on a lady is much more important than cock size. At least that is my experience when I want to get a lady off.
Seems to me that male obsession with dick size has far more to do with the age-old belief that penetrative sex is the way to a woman's orgasm. Not true for most women. Men want to believe this to be true, and porn (or some porn) as well as a lot of other media, sex ed, general discourse supports this model of "sex." It wasn't that long ago that women who didn't orgasm from penetration were considered to have a deficiency. These attitudes are alive and well, even if "hysteria" has been taken off the books. Thus, straight men are obsessed with cock.
I like how the guys keep saying bigger is better - kinda makes me think about Ron White's bit about his cousin and porn. The two women who responded says it's overated. If anything matters to women, it's girth not length. Yes, some women are size queens, but that usually fades with a bruised cervix. And to the guy who was talking cock size with Mom - ew. My cock may be of average size (after all I'm Irish), but I eat pussy like a champ and I'm an eager Fister. If she needs more, I keep a Hitachi by the bed. The world's only passive aggressive Dom. www.twitter.com/I_caraway
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george78 Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 29 2011 : 10:07PM
In 31 years I have been intimate with 41 women and NONE have needed more than my 6" length and 5 3/4" girth. I hit their g-spot just fine and my knowing "how" to use it was just a PLUS for her. Even without hitting the g-spot I was able to give most MANY orgasms by sliding my cock all UP IN-BETWEEN their pussies (hitting their CLITS of course) doing this running it back and forth UP IN BETWEEN the lips and over the clit motion....then going INSIDE her fucking her and often she liked it back out again UP IN-BETWEEN her pussy lips going over her clit. I was together with almost each for 8-months to 2-years....even married twice as long as 9 1/2 years and they ALWAYS wanted me. One was a best friend since we were 12 yrs old and I knew her ex-husband and she told me he made her hurt and bleed as he was 8". Also, I hit bottom on way too many of these women for it to need to be any longer. I had a BBW who took a 4" cock and she said she thoroughly enjoyed him. Bigger isn't better for 98% of the women out there. They want love, attention to detail, to be eaten out, and they CERTAINLY do not like to do every "position" like in your porn movies.
If you're sick of porn, stop watching it. Porn guy's dicks have to be big enough that they can lean back or twist sideways far enough to let the light in, and allow the camera to capture the penetration taking place. (In the industry this is known as "opening up for the camera") Not exactly rocket science. Your not going to get much of a shot if the male talent is only endowed with 5" and has to be right up against, or hunched over the woman. It's just the reality of how people's bodies fit together while having sex casts nothing but shadows right where all the action is taking place. As far as all the "big cock" porn goes, as it's own genre, well, that's pretty much the production company fulfilling market demand. If it didn't sell, it would cease being made. Porn is all about performers putting on a performance for the camera and eventually the viewer. Don't let it fuck with your self esteem.
Here's the deal, at least from the perspective I've gotten from the lovely ladies I've been with: Size, while nice, isn't everything. If you don't know what you're doing with what you've got, you're not going to get the job done whether you have a tree trunk or a pencil in your pants. And oral and clitoral stimulation matters more over dick size in most cases.