Why say no, when it feels so good to say yes. 117 Posts 10/06
Posted - May 3 2007 : 4:13PM
So I'm looking at directing an adult film and I'm trying to plan ahead for certain problems that may come up. Since I will most likely be dealing with new talent that has done little to no sex on film work, I figure there may be some girls who won't have sex with a guy on film unless he uses a condom. And there will be some guys who will want to use a condom when having sex with certain girls.
So that brings up the problem of consumer demand. If the only way a director can get a girl to do a scene is if the guy wears a condom, would you want to see the sex scene or would the condom kill it for you?
I've read some negative reviews on DVDs before because the guy had a condom on.
This includes scenes with my favorite performers. As soon as the condom comes out I hit the skip to next scene button. If I can tell the condoms are used in the movie before I purchase, I will not purchase.
Doesn't bother me that much. I _prefer_ condom-less scenes (preferably ending with cumshots that are either internal or swallowed) but it's not a deal-breaker. IMO, the chemistry of the performers is far, FAR more important than a little piece of latex.
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Many a man fails as an original thinker simply because his memory is too good. 2268 Posts 1/05
Posted - May 3 2007 : 7:09PM
I do not like to use them in my personal life, but then again my wife is past menopause, and therefore not necessary.
I do like creampies (pussy).
Aside from that I do not really care what the male performer feels. I am exclusively interested in the females pleasure (and of cource my own. So I don't really care if they are used.
You do realize that the male performer is probably the most important thing in front of the camera, don't you? Sure. Porn is all about women. But women don't generally walk around horny like us guys do. It often takes a little something special to turn them on.
Watch some porn with no name male talent and then watch some featuring some of the more popular male talent. What differences do you see? The more popular male performers are more popular for a reason. And it isn't just that female viewers enjoy them. The female performers actually enjoy working with them. It pays to care about the male performers.
Condoms are an instant wood killer for me. As soon as I see a condom in porn the walls of fantasy come crashing down and reality sets in. I don't want reality in porn, I want fantasy. Porn is like a never-never-land for me, where everyone can have condom free sex, girls never get pregnant and no one ever gets a disease. Sounds stupid I know, but I don't watch porn or go to the movies because I want to see reality. It's all about the fantasy.
It's not that I won't watch with condom use (I will), it's just that no condom is so much hotter and satisfying.
Truth be told, condom use during intercourse doesn't bother me as much because, I really want to be watching the girl and her reactions. Close-ups of the old in-and-out are boring, IMHO (except for the initial penetration, which I find especially arousing).
Besides, even "condom scenes" will usually have bare cocks being sucked and a facial finish... which are very good things
A girl obviously acting bothers me way more than a condom , though I hate those condoms appearing suddenly such as those change of scene from a "nude" BJ to a penetration with a condom magically materialized I rather prefere the girl putting it on performer's cock
I've said it before, but I don't mind condoms that much. I don't actually like them, but I can live with them if they are there, if the girl and the action are hot enough.
Let's put it this way, porn is my fantasy world, and anytime I see a condom used during a sex scene, I am "jerked"back to reality---something, I do not want.
HELL YES!!! condoms bother me, but be aware that if you try to film "bareback" (condom-less), be prepared to face the wrath of porn's, "pot-bellied potentate," Paul Fishbein, who has used AVN reviews and articles many times, to discourage "bareback" filming.
This always seemed a bit "fishy" to me, because, NO industry on this planet, is more highly screened for sexually transmitted diseases, than adult film performers.
But, THEN, I found out that Fishbein, owned a big chunk of AIM, porn's principal medical testing facility, and it ALL became "crystal clear,"--sorta like, how, so many of the "bushies, including dubya,and family, are major stock holders in several "service" companies, in Iraq, including Brown & Root and Halliburton, also currently, "rebuilding" New Orleans, with "open-end" (unspecified cost) government contracts.
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Porn Scout Deactivated User
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Posted - May 5 2007 : 2:16AM
No condoms
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Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03
Posted - May 5 2007 : 2:25AM
Condoms in porn are bogus. I can see why people use them in real life, but if you're making adult sex films you should show sex between men and women (or whatever gender combo. you like). And not sex between a man and a latex bag inside another person.
They don't bother me at all. I have other priorities when watching a flick. I am far more concerned with the action and the energy from the performers.
Condoms don't do it for me. But beyond what stimulates me (or doesn't, in this case), it's important that the HIV/VD testing continue with a zero tolerance regimen.
I might be wrong (if so, correct me), but condoms are not worn in porn to prevent pregnancy. It's all about individual health, industry health, and societal health.
Funny. When I see a condom in a scene, I quickly fast-forward. But I never forget why I see it. And that's important.
I think the industry should set a good example (pre- or post-video PSAs (public service announcements) in either text or audio/video form. I don't think I've ever seen anything like this. It seems like a win-win-win for everyone. I don't see a downside.
Anyway it doesn't make any sense to shoot a scene with condom on and by the end of the scene to perform a cum shot in a girl's mouth ! It's so absurd !
Will the company "Wicked" ever go condom free? One of the best shot video companies with gorgeous women and condoms in every scene. They need to wake up like Vivid did and ban them or at least make them optional. For this I haven't scene a Wicked movie in years so curious if they've woken up yet.
I don't mind condoms at all, mainly because no matter how much I get into a movie I always know in the back of my mind that this is not real. The illusion of fantasy, for me, drifted away long ago. If anything I feel a little more comfortable knowing the performers are at least somewhat protected from HIV, etc.
Like other posters have said, the chemistry between the two performers is much more important to me. There's some scenes I've watched (Asia Carerra and Mark Davis in "Serenity Suites" comes to mind) where I'd swear the performers are really enjoying themselves and the film crew just happened to be there that day.
I also don't like it when condoms magically appear and disappear. If you're going to have condoms involved, make it part of the fantasy; show her putting it on with her mouth (like my wife used to do with me before she started the pill).
An example of condoms screwing things up I can think of is in "The Seduction of Marilyn Star", where in the climactic, circuit-blowing scene between Marilyn and Mark Davis. Sometimes he's wearing it, sometimes he isn't.
Seeing a rubber is better than hearing about a chick getting AIDS or HIV from an infected, non rubbered, hired dick.
I don't like the look of condoms though, life's a gamble, you take a risk getting out of bed in the morning. As long as all performers are truthfully tested and aware of risks no condoms is good.
I have complaints about the guys who wear condoms to fuck, but then cum right in the girls mouth. Isn't that kinda defeating the purpose?
I think you guys are being selfish. would we let our foot ball and hockey players play with helmets if you really appreciated the porn stars you watch perform. you would tolertate condoms.
In my opinion since I like reality in porn scenes without condoms kill my wood, because I know its stage. Ok a pizza guy comes to the door hot chick says" I wanna f***K ya yada > He does her without a condom. I automatically know its fake who would bang someone they dont know without a condom.Right then and their I know its staged.
and testing does not completely protect people I hear gonnorea , hpv and herpes are pretty rampant in the industry
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Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03
Posted - May 5 2007 : 5:30PM
mjdavis: As far as I know many hockey players would play without safety equipment if the NHL would let them. Same with football. I'm not sure I get your point. Porn doesn't compare well to professional sports.
Unless there's a cut or open sore in the mouth, an oral cumshot isn't risky, as far as HIV is concerned. Never read anything about other diseases though.
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Ordell Deactivated User
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Posted - May 5 2007 : 7:37PM
There are bigger turnoffs in porn than condoms. I'd put it way down the list.
And if I have to wear em, so can the porn studs. :p
Off course we are being selfish. Porn is fantasy. MY fantasy. In porn I don't want the things to be like in the real world. In porn you can have sex with all the pretty girls. And the sex is going to be just like I want it to be.
And no one is forcing anybody to do porn without condom. You always have other options as well.
I personally can't stand to see a guy use a rubber in a porn film. What is even sillier is when a girl using a strap-on puts a rubber on her dildo before fucking another girl. Can anyone explain the purpose? I will tell you that rubbers in porn can serve a purpose. It's a great way for catching the pop shot. I remember when The Gangbang Girl series first came out, Debi Diamond and Trixie Tyler would have the guys cum in the rubber and dump it into their mouth. But the best use of a rubber was in a video by an amatuer(sp)company called A & B released in the early 90's. Ona Zee's cousin or sister was just having about 100 or more guys jerking off onto her face. The fluff girl named Nadine gets into the shot and starts blowing this black guy with a rubber on. The guy cums in the rubber, Nadine pulls off the rubber and gives the guy some post cum head. She then takes the rubber and dumps the pecker paste onto the other girl's mouth. The guy must have cum a pint as Nadine literally squeezes every drop of cum out of the rubber onto her face. Now, mind you, the girl was already covered with cum. Nadine then uses her tits to rub the cum all over the girl. The sight of 1 set of tits rubbing cum all over another set of tits was incredible. If there would have been an award for best use of a rubber in porn, this would have been a winner and then the scene would have gone into a hall of fame somewhere. So yes, used like this, rubbers have a place in porn, maybe in a Gokkun or Bukkake line, but other than that, no way.