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Mutatis
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151 Posts
10/07
Posted - May 29 2010 : 1:32AM
I see a lot of posts on how porn has gone stale and has gotten boring, and that there need to be new creative ideas for the industry. That's all well and good, but what would those ideas be?
Algaliarept
Senior Member

3557 Posts
7/08
Posted - Jun 19 2010 : 6:49AM
How about a DVD with a game show type format.
Say, a random 10 - 20 women and the same number of guys get in a room with three spinning wheels: one wheel will choose performer A, one wheel will choose performer B, and the last wheel will decide the act in question.
So you could end up with two girls, girl guy, two guys, anal, vag, strap ons, etc. We could call it "Porn Roulette"
Pete Zaface
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3064 Posts
8/03
Posted - Jun 19 2010 : 11:56AM
U.S. porn doesn't have to exist in the rut that some of us see it in. All it takes is a little imagination. Some of thse I've posted before; a little repetition might help.
Consider these as brainstorming ideas, a start for discussion, not as full-fledged suggestions to pick holes in.
1) More scenes with girls dressed and made up as they are in the Amateur Allure scenes, or as is common in a lot of European scenes. In other words, can the shorts, tank tops and flip-slops, and introduce some glamor and elegance.
2) Bring back Starbangers, a series wherein girls who didn't do gangbangs did. Think what potential a one-time gangbang with Brooke Lee Adams or Lexi Belle would have.
3) Call this one "After a Hard Day." Jenna Haze did a scene several years ago where she met her man as he came home from a long, hard day at work. She was dressed in a simple yet elegant dress, had candles burning, poured him a drink, then proceeded to alleviate his day's stress by giving him one of her world-class blowjobs. It's the only scene like that I've ever seen.
4) For girls that actually have day jobs or are students, it'd be really erotic to begin the scene as they're getting off from work or leaving school, reinforcing the idea that the girls were "real," at least for this scene.
6) Sex in front of an audience, even if it was only some people watching through the window from the hallway outside the room where BangBros shoot some of their girls. The more the audience looks like real people and less like drunk college students or parolees, the better.
7) Believable spontaneity or something unexpected is hot when it happens, which is seldom. Here are a few examples: Rachel Roxxx did a Tugjobs scene where she was doing the "stripper slide" on a guy's dick and slid it up into her pussy. Nadia Moore did a scene once where she fucked somebody, then brought the cameraman over and gave him a blowjob. I think Tera Patrick did the same thing once, too. And Natasha Dolling, while getting fucked, motioned the cameraman over and started sucking him off in a scene. Each of these scenes was erotic because what I saw was both unexpected and believable.
8) More female completion and fewer "hungry bird" cumshots.
9) The sex appeal of women getting fucked in hose is vastly underestimated by American producers.
10) Producers should spend some time watching Japanese videos, particularly those from IdeaPocket and S1. Yeah, the mosaic sucks, but ignore that for the moment and look for ideas for attire, surroundings, atmosphere, etc. I think there's a lot of potential there. One genre I've become partial to is a girl having sex in various semi-public places (office, classroom, ets.) surrounded by a lot of people who are acting as if absolutely nothing is happening.
11) Have scenes where newcummers are introduced to the biz by their friends. For example, the existing starlet introduces her friend to the camera, the does a scene while the friend watches, then it's the friend's turn.
12) I can sometimes get off just during the interview, thinking that I'm about to some the hottie being interviewed have sex. But I also think it'd be erotic sometimes to have the interview after the scene, while the cum's fresh on, and dripping from, her face. I fucked a girl once who let me cum on her face and then declined a towel while we talked afterwards. I was ready to go again in record time.
14) There was a pretty hot scene a few years ago where a naked starlet answered the door for a pizza delivery and the dude wound up getting a blowjob from her. Haven't seen anything like that since, but it sure would be fun to see it again.
15) Have a starlet's fantasy series: "Hi, my name is Lexi Belle, and I'm a porn star. Today, you get to watch me fulfill my fantasy of ..."
16) Real, semi-real or believable pickups.
charn
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2880 Posts
12/09
Posted - Nov 16 2012 : 10:10PM
Nevermind, it was a bad idea. I can do better, eventually, after probably doing more of worse.
Edited by - charn on 11/16/2012 10:33:54 PM
RandomPrecision
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3/06
Posted - Nov 17 2012 : 12:00AM
Make some kind of camera that is meant to be inserted into a girl's asshole. But with a twist. The camera not only goes all the way inside. Once it's in, it points back towards the opening of the anus so you can see the world from a gaping asshole's perspective.
 
Dan
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2056 Posts
6/07
Posted - Nov 18 2012 : 12:01PM
The kind of innovation that sticks around in porn is innovation of sex acts between people, rather than between people and inanimate objects. It's either introduction of new sex acts, or it's a new combination of existing sex acts.
Porn started out with vaginal only sex. Introducing anal sex was certainly an innovation in porn, even though some people were already doing it in their bedrooms on their own. And double-penetration was another innovation that combined two existing sex acts.
I think there is still plenty of room for combining existing sex acts in new ways. This kind of innovation in porn hasn't yet been fully explored.
For example, there are plenty of movies showing anal gaping during anal sex, but there are almost no scenes where the anal guy gapes the lady's ass during a DP. Gaping is almost never shown during DPs. Another example is tit-play with the pretty lady during an anal ride with her. One guy is playing with her tits and kissing her on the lips, while the other guy rides her ass. You see such sex acts separately, but almost never together. Putting them together would be an innovation, the way a DP was an innovation, when vaginal and anal sex were put together to make it a DP.

Edited by - Dan on 11/18/2012 12:02:48 PM

real01
Member

89 Posts
7/07
Posted - Nov 18 2012 : 4:00PM
Plus, if the newcummer is shy, it would make that kind of a scene even better!
I totally support this!
Plus, since in porn the directors decide what to shoot and we (the viewers/consumers) have our own fantasies, ideas and suggestions for
improving the movies, maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to have a blog or something where pornstars, directors & consumers would discuss &
offer ideas and options... OK, we have some topics about 'improving porn' on this site and I offered some ideas - but a movie with my ideas
was not (yet) shot, so...
Edited by - real01 on 11/18/2012 4:00:54 PM
Macster
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42 Posts
10/10
Posted - Nov 18 2012 : 4:14PM
I thought about this quite a while ago, and definitely think it would be hot for a 'normal' scene to be replicated, say a dinner party with 2 couples, where there is clearly a lot of sexual chemistry between the 4,........and if it was made to look perfectly natural and real, it could be very hot.
Ok, so we wouldnt sit through the whole meal, but lets watch the build up for long enough to believe it, and the scenario play out, like the wife's ass being pinched by the friends husband as he goes into the kitchen for another bottle of wine, or lots of little sexy build ups to a fantastic 4sum of normal looking people......not just Porn stars walking on set in clearly 'fuck me now' lingerie.....
Maybe some would call this 'female friendly' porn,....and it perhaps is.......but come on, there can be a hell of a lot more eroticism put into porn films than currently seemingly done.
Maybe there is a lot like this that I dont know of.....if so, please tell !!
maturelover
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216 Posts
7/12
Posted - Nov 19 2012 : 3:29PM
mature women (like fifty years old women, persia monir, deauxma, rita daniels, that kind of mature woman) having rough sex with real young men, and with real young men i mean 18-21 years old. Never seen anything like that, because there are practically no real young guys and also because even with older male performers the rougher stuff is very rare in the milf niche.
Scenes with a lot of mirror involved, even if you see the camera guy filming it it's not a problem at all.
oralperv
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272 Posts
4/12
Posted - Nov 19 2012 : 5:22PM
^^^^^^^^
I like the mirror idea as well ... even at a slight angle ... to give 2 perspectives of the action, whatever it may be
Picture in Picture has been done a cpl times too .. and I like it .. like when some young thing is gettin plowed in the ass .. you get a good look at that .. but also a 2nd camera (PiP) is showing her facial expressions
also ./. more hardcore ORAL themed movies ! ..... (ie: GagFactor or FaceFucking Inc )
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296 Posts
3/12
Posted - Nov 20 2012 : 12:19AM
I know its a horse that some people might think im beating to death.
But i feel a full fledged CMNF SEX site would be really ground breaking.
[1]It makes the best use out of the female form. And highlights it like no other.
[2]Its sexual intensity is just amazing.
[3]The physical/textural contrast of both form and its function.
[4]Im sure lots of woman would admit to fantasizing about having their sexy prone naked bodies
being fucked by handsome clothed men.
[5]Its an untapped genre. Sure brazzers/naughty america etc put out the occasional scene.
But its never been done before in full scale.
RandomPrecision
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3/06
Posted - Nov 21 2012 : 1:11AM
I think this is merely because the latter is rarely done well while simultaneously being presented to a large audience.
Example, you see dildos done quite frequently but frankly, I don't think many people would complain if dildos and vibrators completely disappeared from porn tomorrow. The porn industry doesn't seem to care that ordinary dildos are completely unnecessary except for a very small niche.
Now create a dildo with a high quality, high resolution camera in it and also with a high quality light source with good color rendering and you have much more flexibility than just a plain old dildo being shown going in and out from ten feet away. Admittedly, it is gimmicky but I don't know if the porn biz has really tried too much experimentation with this sort of thing on a large scale. I've seen some speculum stuff and asscam stuff on web sites but a lot of it is relatively obscure to the general public. You generally have to go specifically looking for it or you never know it exists. Just about anyone who's seen 10 porn scenes in the last ten years knows what throat fucking is whether they like it or not.
I think if the porn industry wants new ideas, it's going to have to take some risks and just experiment. Give things a chance.
RandomPrecision
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3/06
Posted - Nov 21 2012 : 1:44AM
Oh. And here's a creative idea for directors looking to try something new. Try telling your talent to be as quiet as possible and to try to communicate everything they think and feel during the scene without saying a word or screaming.
Dan
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2056 Posts
6/07
Posted - Nov 21 2012 : 4:39AM
^
Yes, non-verbal communication for sexual purposes can look hot in a porn film.
I've seen one scene in a Russian porn film, where the fucking guy was banging a sexy lady's pussy in doggy. He leaned forward and started showing her the middle finger, until she turned her head and stared at it for a few seconds. Then she suddenly realized that he wanted to have anal sex with her, and she yelled a big "No!" at the guy, while looking at him over her shoulder. The next shot in this scene showed the guy banging this lady's ass about as hard as he was banging her pussy before. And she seemed to be enjoying it too. Apparently this guy managed to persuade her to have anal sex with him after all.
Porn is visual, and communication between the porn actors should also be visual. Because talking forces your mind into a different mode of thinking, and distracts you from enjoying the visual part of the scene. Scientific studies have shown that most people do their visual thinking with the right side of their brain, while verbal thinking they do with their left side of the brain. Which explains why talking, during a scene that depends on visual effects, is often such a big distraction for the viewers.
Sexually explicit gestures is the way to do it in porn. Because they are visual, just like the sex-action is. They hint and foreshadow and make you anticipate until you salivate, instead of distracting you, the way verbal interaction in porn often does.
And the middle finger isn't the only thing a horny guy can show to a pretty lady. He can also make a ring with the fingers of one hand, and poke through this ring with the finger of his other hand. The lady and most porn viewers would instantly recognize it as the guy telling the pretty lady that he wants to fuck. And if this guy then points at himself and then at her, then this will mean that he wants to fuck her.
Imagination is the limit, when it comes to creating visually explicit sexual gestures that clearly show some type of sex. And gestures don't need to be limited to hands. Rock star Elvis Presley gained his popularity among the ladies partly by pumping his hips in the air, during his singing, as if he was fucking a lady.
This is the kind of innovation porn needs nowadays to make porn films look hotter and better than before.
Edited by - Dan on 11/21/2012 4:42:16 AM
RandomPrecision
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3/06
Posted - Nov 23 2012 : 12:09AM
^ A big part of the beauty of non-verbal communication during sex (both with the camera and with each other) is that it leaves a lot of room for interpretation by the viewer. Sometimes the one thing that ruins something that would be just perfect is that one of the performers pipes up and says something that just seems off or wrong for the moment.
If they don't actually say anything, it's easy to fill in the blanks with something that is personally appealing to you and if you're wrong about what they're communicating, you'll never know (or care, presumably).
 
Endless Loop
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8/04
Posted - Nov 23 2012 : 9:51PM
Sort of a cumfart based POV? Classic!!
Action packed, as the viewer is driven back, beneath a plunging helmet!!
Edited by - Endless Loop on 11/23/2012 9:54:57 PM
FunWithSex
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2 Posts
6/13
Posted - Jun 11 2013 : 10:35PM
Yes I agree. There has to be something new. How about putting participants in a situation that is very awkward. They would be forced to have sex in the non-traditional way.
Pete Zaface
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3064 Posts
8/03
Posted - Jun 12 2013 : 12:08PM
A reverse DancingBear: A few strippers in a roomful of guys, some of whom get to have sex with the strippers. The strippers could be established performers or girls looking to break in to the industry.
A variation: There's so much sex in stripclubs, at least in DFW, that I'm surprised no one's done some reality scenes based on that scenario -- not on sets made up to look like strip clubs with just a few performers, mopes and extras around, but a real club.
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3/06
Posted - Jun 12 2013 : 8:19PM
As usual the Japanese are at the forefront of weird fucking shit.
bootymeister
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11/08
Posted - Jun 13 2013 : 5:45PM
That's been done in the 'Sexy Dancer' series by Cesar Video. Cesar Video is a black adult video studio based in New York City during the 90s thru 2000. The performers were local talent also. I believe Lexington Steele got his start in that series.

Pete Zaface
Senior Member

3064 Posts
8/03
Posted - Jun 13 2013 : 6:18PM
^That might have done me some good when I wanted to whack off 13 years ago (probably not, though, for reasons that are best left unwritten), but it doesn't do me much good when I want to look at such stuff in 2013.
terroboyd
Member

16 Posts
2/10
Posted - Jun 13 2013 : 8:36PM
I have this crazy idea
How about you take the idea that the raw series was doing and you make it more intimate.
Just one camera no POV's and its just two people having sex.



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