Criticism vs. insults

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Sick My Duck Deactivated User 15 Posts 1/14	Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 3:21PM Can somebody please explain the difference as it pertains to this forum? I get the sense that the moderators don't know the difference. Could you prove me wrong by posting examples? For instance, if I said I think Siri is a bit overweight and needs to lose a few pounds, is that an insult, even if by medical standards and the classic definition of overweight, I'm right? Or what if I said, "I don't like Leya Falcon's know-it-all, holier-than-thou attitude." Is that an insult even though I could post pages and pages of evidence displaying such from this very forum? I'm curious. It seems like the sole job of the mods is to make sure that every star, no matter how wretched and deplorable, is blown smoke up their asses, and NEVER, NEVER critiqued in any way. Which is total bullshit. [Link]
T0MBOne Senior Member 1200 Posts 5/08	Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 3:46PM Buddy, the mods go out of their way to curb negative comments about porn perfomers; many post here and most of us would like to see them continue posting here on ADT. So, there's really no reason to answer your question. You can always go play somewhere else. ---tb--- [Link]
LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05	Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 3:47PM ^ it is an insult , would you EVER say to any woman in real life you think she's fat? besides Siri is very sensitive on the subject , she didn't like she was listed as plump and NEVER accepted to be in any movie with plump/BBW actresses. and even with the wildest fantasy nobody could really think she's in that category. so yes that is an insult , more so if you say so to someone who is sensitive about that. Would you ever say to any woman in your life she's flat? I don't think so some women have issues on their breast size any man should know that by experience unless he lives as an hermit. also that is not criticism because it's a body , you may criticize a performance , constructive criticism might be welcomed , it would help a performer to improve her skills. I mean you can say for example, you overacted a bit, looked like you were howling to the moon , a lower tone would be better. That's criticism something she could change. But a body? Come on, if she loses weigh there would be those complaining for that or even be so rude to speculate about drugs abuse (this happened several times actually) There are many body types either you like it or don't. I remember an actress who changed her look with an extremely short haircut and put a picture of her , man the things I read about it , ugly was the gentler word and it went on for days and pages Then her scenes came out some weeks ago , she was drop dead gorgeous ,just fantastic. dumb assholes! Edited by - LCF on 1/10/2014 3:50:39 PM [Link]
Sick My Duck Deactivated User 15 Posts 1/14	Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 3:48PM Thanks for not answering the question. Since you aren't a pornstar, am I free to call you a moron? Or do the rules apply to the useless posters such as yourself as well? [Link]
LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05	Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 3:49PM ^ me? WTF? [Link]

Sick My Duck Deactivated User 15 Posts 1/14	Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 3:50PM "besides Siri is very sensitive on the subject , she didn't like she was listed as plump and NEVER accepted to be in any movie with plump/BBW actresses." She's in a movie called "Big Girls are Sexy", you fucking moron. [Link]
Sick My Duck Deactivated User 15 Posts 1/14	Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 3:51PM "^ me? WTF?" No sorry, you actually tried to answer the question. [Link]
LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05	Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 3:53PM ^^ That's why she was pissed , she didn't know they would have placed her in such a movie. Edited by - LCF on 1/10/2014 3:54:02 PM [Link]
Sick My Duck Deactivated User 15 Posts 1/14	Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 3:54PM If you can't be allowed to criticize, all this forum is a giant circle jerking lie-fest. And completely pointless. [Link]
LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05	Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 3:57PM You can criticize, you can't insult , that's different I believe Also if you don't like someone why you just don't ignore her and move on? There are many actresses I don't like, I don't even open their threads. for what? To say I don't like them? It's pointless , unnecessary . Dedicated threads are for fans who want informations, get pictures , know something unusual, know things in advance such things. I mean if you are a supporter of a team would you fly 2,000 miles to insult another team you don't like? What's the point? Edited by - LCF on 1/10/2014 4:03:26 PM [Link]
T0MBOne Senior Member 1200 Posts 5/08	Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 4:00PM I've written a few hundred porn movie reviews where I might occasionally bash a performer for any of a number of things; however, I am not going to do that in this forum where porn stars post and others want them to continue posting. Get it, good. ---tb--- [Link]
Sick My Duck Deactivated User 15 Posts 1/14	Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 4:01PM If Siri didn't know they were going to put her in that movie, it's her fault. The fact is, she is overweight, and only an American scarfing down cheeseburgers every day would think otherwise. That doesn't mean she isn't sexy to some. Some folks are chubby chasers. But trying to deny what you are is insanity. Fat people are fat. There's nothing wrong with that, it's not an insult, it's just the honest truth. If you're fat, you're fat. Period. Don't try to hide that fact on an overly sensitive forum, just put down the fork and exercise a little if you have a problem with it. And if you are in porn, you should have enough of a thick skin to take it, otherwise, why are you in porn? You're gonna get much much worse on the streets, where people can't be censored. [Link]
Sick My Duck Deactivated User 15 Posts 1/14	Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 4:04PM " You can criticize, you can't insult , that's different I believe " Which goes back to my original post that I've yet to get a clear answer on. What, for the purposes of this forum, is the difference? [Link]
LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05	Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 4:05PM Even if you're right , and you don't, do you feel the urge to tell her? I mean what if somebody feels the urge to talk to someone else about his mother? still criticism? no those like that have a name, ASSHOLES. [Link]
rafalas Member 867 Posts 9/13	Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 4:10PM I get what you're saying SMD, but some folks take it really too far and abuse the stars that do post on here. A lot of people are really deranged, just look at a Dani Daniels thread in Star Crossed. We can't deal with these blockheads, why should busy, successful babes have to be exposed to shit they've heard or answered millions of times. No true discussions are really sustained in a (frequented) performers thread, they get interrupted by some guys posting photos of body parts or write some basic, embarrassing stuff. [Link]

Quorrl Senior Member 2835 Posts 3/11	Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 4:16PM "I'm not into Mackenzie Pierce's new Botoxed up cromagnon look." That's an example for an insult. But you knew that before writing it... [o\\|] [o\\|] [o\\|] [Link]
Sick My Duck Deactivated User 15 Posts 1/14	Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 4:21PM It is not my intent to abuse anyone. I'm not going to hammer someone to death with stupid insults that mean absolutely nothing. My critiques are most often valid, and have a meaningful purpose behind them. The truth is I probably would be a lot more interested in siri's vids if she lost a little weight. Now, is that a critique, an insult, or maybe even a helpful suggestion? Some of you may just agree with option C, even though the poster herself doesn't see it that way. Does that mean I should censor myself, just because she may happen by, and see my post? BTW, for those of you using that old irrelevant and downright stupid argument, would you say that to your mother or sister, the answer is yes, I would, and have. I don't lie to people to protect their feelings. Society's ultra PC transformation is disgusting to me, and this type of faux transparency only serves to denigrate and destroy us all. It is the reason there are nothing but self-important assholes like Leya Falcon running around. [Link]
Sick My Duck Deactivated User 15 Posts 1/14	Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 4:24PM Quorrl wrote: "I'm not into Mackenzie Pierce's new Botoxed up cromagnon look." That's an example for an insult. But you knew that before writing it... [o\\|] [o\\|] [o\\|] Click to expand Does she not use botox? does she not look a bit cave-manish now? Am I lying in any way at all. I disagree with the look, that's all. Some guys might like that look, I dunno. Shooting your face up with the botulism toxin is never a good idea. It's the plague for Christ's sake. You get what you deserve. [Link]
rafalas Member 867 Posts 9/13	Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 4:44PM but you don't have to go all out of left field, with comments about someone's look, just tone it down. say something you meant in a veiled manner, but easily deciphered through the lines. [Link]
Quorrl Senior Member 2835 Posts 3/11	Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 4:55PM Sick My Duck wrote: I don't lie to people to protect their feelings. Society's ultra PC transformation is disgusting to me, and this type of faux transparency only serves to denigrate and destroy us all. It is the reason there are nothing but self-important assholes like Leya Falcon running around. Click to expand Sorry, but... if you think your opinion and your "truth" is so important that you have to loudly preach them to the world, in everyone's face without ever thinking of their feelings... then how are you different from "self-important assholes running around"? Isn't that exactly that what those do: they think that they are most important and that their opinion is what counts and matters, and act like that? Reflect about it. And politeness and respect are no concepts that are part of any society transformation from today. They are concepts that have an ultra-long history and tradition. Truth and honesty are important, yes. But they are not the only things that are important between us human beings. [Link]
Sick My Duck Deactivated User 15 Posts 1/14	Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 4:56PM What if I used a pseudonym, like Chimpanzee Fierce, that rhymes with her name and eloquently but bluntly describes her look and problems all at the same time? Is that okay? [Link]
Sick My Duck Deactivated User 15 Posts 1/14	Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 4:58PM I never said I wasn't a self-important asshole, and you are free to denigrate me in any way you see fit. If I write something you don't like, feel free to bash me on it. I'm not going to cry and quit the forum like some people. [Link]
Joe Mayo Deactivated User Sure Thing, Joe Mayo. 533 Posts 10/13	Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 5:00PM SMD - I'm honestly glad you started this thread. It took some balls. My take on ADT is that any post even remotely negative toward pornstars - even constructive criticism and even when it's clear you're in the right - is frowned upon, will probably be edited, and can possibly lead to being banned. There's a difference - sometimes a small one, sometimes a huge one - between criticism and insults. And pornstar participation brings in more members which brings in more ad revenue. So the last thing in the world the owners want to do are have pornstars leave and talk negatively about the forum because then none of them will want to join and without pornstars here, you'd probably have less members and, therefore, less ad revenue. Do I always agree with it? No. Do I think there's an overabundance of ass kissing and overuse of gay emoticons here? Yes. But that's how this place is run and the owners have every right to run it as they see fit, like it or not. Edited by - Joe Mayo on 1/10/2014 5:04:34 PM Edited by - Joe Mayo on 1/10/2014 5:10:50 PM [Link]
JB_X Deactivated User addled 1500 Posts 10/12	Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 5:11PM That didn't take long. Didn't even get a chance to finish a response. [Link]
NotMyRealName Member 487 Posts 6/13	Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 7:10PM Without this being some kind of witch hunt towards the commenter, here's my take on this: If you are a pornstar and you are taking off your clothes and having sex on camera in a scene that will be viewed by many people that you will never meet, you are very exposed. That's a fragile state, I don't care how many scenes you do or how confident you appear on screen. How people feel about the way they look is extremely touchy regardless of what profession you are in. But at that level of exposure it becomes something else. I feel sorry that this happened because she seemed like a very personable, very giving performer who was willing to reach out to her fans. I don't want to blame anyone for how things happened I just hope that she would accept our collective apology and realize that we, at heart, just want her to be happy. [Link]

killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18631 Posts 4/08	Posted - Jan 10 2014 : 8:57PM Threads started by trolls get locked. [Link]