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rearadmiral All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 2 2026 : 3:57PM
Like a lot of people here, I like to collect and flag first scenes, first anal scenes, and first DP scenes. When it comes to flagging the scenes, I rely heavily on what other users report here. Like a lot of other users, I rely on sites like IAFD, Indexxx, and Freeones for some data but I don't know that any of those are good for sorting for first scenes.

I've started using Data18 and wonder if any other users can give me some tips. It appears that I could search for a model and I can then click on her scenes and those appear to be in chronological order. I get that this is user-generated and there can be mistakes, and there may be differences between a scene that is shot first but released second, but those are largely inconsequential to me.

Am I correct in saying that with Data18 that I can do what I've said above. For example, if I want to see what Stella Luxx's first scene was, I can sort and see that it she has 67 scenes listed, with the first one being for "Real Hot VR.' Her first non-VR scene was a week later for 'Sis Loves Me.' Likewise; I can sort for her first anal scene as well, which is showing as an Evil Angel title, "YA Young Anal 5."

Is this how Data18 is structured or am I completely misreading it? If this is how it structured, is it relatively accurate? Again, this isn't rocket science so nothing turns on it, but it would be nice to know that it is reasonably accurate.

I note that while Data18 only lists 67 scenes where IAFD is up to 93 listed, that shouldn't matter too much since I'm looking for her first scene and first anal. Does that make sense? (For retired models, I suspect the Data18 list will be closer to what IAFD reports.)

Thanks!

GapeLover01
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Posted - Feb 3 2026 : 3:24AM
^I use it pretty regularly and what I have noticed is that it is reasonably accurate most of the times say it will get 8 out of 10 scenes right. Popular performers and studios scenes/movies are accurate most of the times and other lesser known studios are either hit or miss . Some of the scenes take weeks from their release to get updated on the site and the filters sometimes get wonky. I use it primarily to track upcoming releases and it does a great job at that.

I'd suggest to not use it as a primary database as it has a lot of inconsistencies in the scenes and instead use it as a supplementary. You can use stashdb.org in addition with theporndb.net (signup is required for both)as these are cross-checked and moderated greatly on a regular basis.

Using the same example of Stella luxx on stashdb I ran a search and her first scene is listed for Bbcsurprise with isiah maxwell dated 09-12-2023, first vr for RealHotVr 09-02-2024, first anal for brcc 11-12-2023. Total scenes are listed as 112 but it also contains compilations, pmvs etc.Thanks to you I just realized that the excogi scenes haven't been updated on data18 for a long time .

rearadmiral All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 3 2026 : 10:39AM
^ Thank you, thank you, thank you! I meant to go back and edit my request to include asking about any suggestions beyond IAFD, Indexxx, and Data18 because I suspected that of all of us who are somewhat methodical about our collections that there had to be better databases available.

I've registered with both the sites you recommended and I'll spend some time learning each of them over the next few days. Your findings on Stella Luxx, as an example, on those other databases make a lot more sense than Data18. Given that ExCoGi (and BRCC and BBCS) get so many first scenes, that seems reasonable.

I'm looking forward to spending some time learning how these databases can be used before diving in to start doing some searching.

I really appreciate your advice!

GapeLover01
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Posted - Feb 4 2026 : 12:24AM
^No sweat.Please do share what you have learnt about their usage.
rearadmiral All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 4 2026 : 8:25AM
^ I will. That will evolve over the next few weeks. My first step will be going through my collection and making a list of models who I want to identify their first scenes and first anal scenes. By necessity, I'll start small.

When it comes to first anal scenes, another great resource is a thread that a former member started here almost ten years ago. The member was "FlacFan," and he created an impressive list of first anal scenes. For newer ADT members, here's a link. It is an impressive body of work that must have taken a lot of work:

https://forum.adultdvdtalk.com/adultdvdtalk-first-anal-database-year-ii--pt-ii/1

I'm thinking with a combination of the sites I have, I should be able to work away at identifying the first scenes of favourite models. I should add that this isn't as easy as it may sound since I'll be looking to ID models whose careers date back 25+ years as well as some who started last year. When looking back 25 years, the records are far less available or accurate. This is obvious with FlacFan's list too. He highlights models in blue when he can't determine a first anal scene because the data just doesn't help.

What would you think of this: asking the Mods if they could open a thread that would be always on top but unlocked for new information. The thread would be for resources like IAFD, Indexxx, Data18, Freeones, and the two databases you introduced me to. I suspect that there are many others out there I've never heard of. I can't be alone in being interested in learning about new resources. When I joined ADT back in 2011 I knew about IAFD but that may have been it. I can say that I learned of Data18 through a post here. It might be a good resource for old and new members alike if such a thread existed. There is a precedent for this too. On the Star Crossed forum, there are two threads that are always at the top but are still open for new posts. One is for Twitter accounts, and one is for talent agencies. At the very least, this says that an open thread that stays on top is technically possible. Even if the Mods aren't interested in a resource thread on top, we could still start one and anyone who wanted to add to it could and include it as a favourite topic.

Any thoughts?

I'll send a message to the Mods to see if there would be any interest in this.

 
GapeLover01
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Posted - Feb 4 2026 : 10:41AM
^This is definitely some work ain't it. The database threads are great for everyone +1 on your suggestion for pinning such a thread but there needs to be some guidelines set around that also for the sites I have mentioned it seems that they only allow scenes/movies that are currently accessible to stream/buy which leads to severely limiting a lot of the older stuff.

Adding to the sources,I have noticed the iafd reviews are incredible for these documentations now not every scene has these reviews especially the older movies/scenes originally released in under non-english studios and languages but they are a great place to start.

rearadmiral All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 5 2026 : 7:38AM
^ Good point on reading the reviews linked to the IAFD pages of many of the older movies. I rely on those a lot as well.

Another IAFD advantage in some searches is using the VOD links. I recall when I was looking for scenes where the model did only one anal scene in her career that in a lot of cases there were multiple scenes listed at IAFD. In some cases there could be six or more when there was only supposed to be one. I recall that they weren't always marked as a compilation either. In those cases, I could use the thumbnails on the movie's VOD pages and compare those to other listings and against the scene I had in my collection. In most cases, that confirmed that the model only did that one anal scene, but in a couple of cases, it showed that she did two.

I sent you a private message about starting a thread for resources. I figured we could take that offline.




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