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earache
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5 Posts
10/03
Posted - Oct 17 2003 : 12:53AM
What is the current going rate of pay in Chatsworth for a guy who does BOTH Camera and Stills (pretty girl and hard core) by Scene and by Day (2 scenes) on a gonzo shoot if he shoots Evil Angel quality and can emulate capture heat... like Gabriel, John Leslie, John Stagliano, Rocco, Joey Silvera, Jules etc?
tricia_devereaux
Evil Angel DVD

Patience is a virtue, but who wants to be virtuous?
4283 Posts
4/00
Posted - Oct 17 2003 : 12:27PM
By Camera and Stills, I am assuming that you mean VIDEO camera and still photography.
For a gonzo shoot, it could be anywhere from $100 to $300 for a day that could be anywhere between 2 and 10 hours.
Different companies pay outrageously different amounts.

IMO, the best gonzo directors are the ones that do their own video camerawork though.

Pocketcomb_Pimp
Deactivated User

1921 Posts
7/03
Posted - Oct 17 2003 : 1:19PM
I know you say that the best directors do thier own work, and I would have to agree that in order to get your vission accross you need to take it from start to finish. But for someone that just wanted to get thier feet wet with video work, what would you reccomend. I do mainstream work, and have thought about making the switch.

I'd like to bring my network experience to the adult world. How would you suggest I go about it?

TonyC
Comstock Films

2523 Posts
8/03
Posted - Oct 17 2003 : 2:31PM
VIDEO camera? You mean there's another kind of camera for capturing moving images?

-T.C.

tricia_devereaux
Evil Angel DVD

Patience is a virtue, but who wants to be virtuous?
4283 Posts
4/00
Posted - Oct 17 2003 : 5:16PM
I would recommend to the two of you that asked that you send a resume and demo tape to the companies that shoot feature porn and specifically say that you would be willing to shoot behind-the-scenes camera as a way to show off your skills to the company.

Behind the scenes would pay between $75 and $150 for a FULL day (10 or more hours), but it's a great way to get started with a porn company.

Be confident but humble. Companies get way too many people who err or the side of arrogance.

 
TonyC
Comstock Films

2523 Posts
8/03
Posted - Oct 17 2003 : 6:49PM
I've seen more than once highly competent and experienced shooter fall victom to pussy paralysis. My #1 DP/Op, who's been to hell and back with me, goes to pieces when there are naked girls in the room. Probably a close cousin of whatever it is that causes a swing-party stud to falter when we has to do it in front of a camera crew.

For about what you get for a day as a network stringer, you could cast two young beauties to do a girl/girl scene. If you don't freeze up and can bring your network level of craft to the job, it's pretty likely the results you'll get will be far above the average Chatsworth lensmen. Combine that with your best network stuff and you've got a hell of a reel to send off.

T.C.

Pocketcomb_Pimp
Deactivated User

1921 Posts
7/03
Posted - Oct 17 2003 : 11:14PM
Thanks to both of your for feedback. I do fine around women. I did adult content where I live to pay for school. I've seen planty of beautiful women, and had my share. I'm not theleast bit interested in anything except changing the game! Thanks for the tips, and maybe I'll see you on the set.
Yani Z
Vizual Films

179 Posts
2/03
Posted - Oct 18 2003 : 1:10AM
Here’s the skinny! Like Female and Male talent it varies on how good you are but the
Average it’s $150 for stills a scene ( 3 rolls a scene! 1 roll for box and the other 2 hardcore) and $200 for Video a scene, watch out for companies
That try to make you shoot in a day rate I’ve been burned many times like this as they will try to squeeze out 2 movies form you, danger Will Robertson! Also be careful because if you know how to light they will try to get this for free too not realize that it's a whole skill and job onto itself! I started out about 6 years ago at these prices and worked with the best camera people in the industry who earned much more then me!
As far as equipment most companies have their choice of camera equipment but if
They don’t you can rent you camera out for $150 for a 3 chip, if you have lighting skills and have the equipment that price can be all over the map depending on what equipment you have! But like I said most companies have their equipment already! I have $100,000 worth of equipment and never really got my money back on rentals but at least now I can use it on my own stuff :)
P.S. If you can do the whole crew thing like I’ve done for many of companies for the last 5 years you can give price breaks but it’s up to you to decide how much your time, skills and schooling are worth and don’t forget you are not guaranteed work 5 days a week so you have to average that in!
God Bless
Yani Z
Vizualfilms.com
Mike Quasar
Zero Tolerance

Reluctant pornographer
1765 Posts
7/01
Posted - Oct 18 2003 : 5:03AM
Top still guys get $400 a day. Top video guys get $600 a day but there are wild fluctuations in between. This is a small and close knit business. It's difficult to get in unless you know someone or unless you work your way up. I recognize that it's a bit insulting for a skilled civilian to consider working your way up in porn but please swallow whatever pride you may now possess and accept porn reality.
I worked as a Production Assistant, Production manager and script writer before someone gave me a chance as a camera operator. It only took 13 years!!!! I'm finally able to say that I'm now a respected videographer/Director. Truthfully, that's just wishful thinking on my part. I'm sure that most in the industry still don't know who the hell I am !!!

Long story short...
Gonzo porn doesn't need someone like you but the feature companies (Vivid, Wicked etc) could certainly benefit from a mainstream refugee such as yourself. Start faxing your resume'.

Quaze

Pocketcomb_Pimp
Deactivated User

1921 Posts
7/03
Posted - Oct 18 2003 : 12:57PM
All excellent feedback. At this point, it's just a consideration. I have skills in all the areas that have been mentioned. Honestly, if I had my choice, I would shoot, edit and direct.

My work history is with top bands. The majority of my work has been with the major music networks. Honetly I'd rather be a bigger fish in a smaller pond, that's the motivation for change. At the same time, I am uncertain about the security of porn. Companies, tallent and jobs seem to come and go at a much high frequency.

I wonder if some of the companies would allow me on set for a day to see how the industry works?

davecummings
Member

368 Posts
12/02
Posted - Oct 19 2003 : 8:01PM
I discuss "Other Avenues into Porn" (e.g., script-writing, crewing, producing/directing) at the link near the bottom of the link to "How to be a Porn Star" at my www.davecummings.com. Also, at a class I teach for The Learning Annex in San Diego and in Los Angeles, I used answers I got from chatting with some Industry insiders who say an average scene rate is $100-150 for stills, and $200 for a video operator; day rates average $250 for stills and $600 for videographers (and a lighting crew, which usually means two guys so that one operates a "c-light" runs about the same day rate as a video guy). Keep in mind that budgets are different, so rates will also vary in a relative manner.

Dave Cummings

*Mutt*
Deactivated User

752 Posts
8/03
Posted - Oct 19 2003 : 10:02PM

Gonzo companies are short sighted, the quality of stills i've seen from gonzo productions, not the box cover shots, are atrocious. There is still value to still photos, people who think still photography is an afterthought are wrong. I could sell alot of stills on the Web from gonzo companies if they would take the time and money and shoot high quality digital stills. Not to mention high quality stills add value to the DVD.

A company approached me wanting to know if Wanton would be interested in shooting stills for them. Yeah I said, for $1,000 a day I can get him to do it.


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