So I'm watching Jake Malone's "Gang Bang My Face 2". I see Bobbi Starr getting throatfucked. The guys are really forcing their cocks down her throat. She suddenly starts yelling "Ah!, Ah!, Ah!". They stop, and this huge amount of stuff starts flowing out of her nose. She said later in the scene "I was throwing up out of my nose!" The strange thing I find about throatfucking, it kinda turns me on and disgusts me at the same time. When I see the girl is really struggling to handle it, I'm not very comfortable watching it. But it seems like some of the girls actually get off on it. So, has deepthroating gone too far these days, is it wrong or "unnatural" for guys to try to force their cock down the throat of these girls?
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dvd4dvd Deactivated User
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Posted - Jul 23 2007 : 4:26AM
hell no! the deeper the better! you'd better watch some movies with Annette Schwartz. she goes COCK, BALLS AND BEYOND! i say if your banging a chic orally, and your going past your balls, and you feel the nice speed bump as the UVULA goes right over the head of your cock and down your shaft super highway. I say if she sneezes cum outta her nose, have your camera ready cause you dont wanna miss it! I say if it brings tears to her eyes awesome! hell just thinking about and typing it, it's bring tears to MY EYES! I say with practice comes perfection! or should I say? with practice cums perfection! Im hoping that some day..One of the Porn God Directors finally get the balls to get the World's Best Without A Doubt Best Deepthroater and match her up with the Biggest Cock in the Universe..Maybe Mandingo or Whoever is Currently the Biggest Cock On this Great Planet Earth, and Outdo the old Deep Throat Movie with Linda Lovelace or Even Outdo the reigning Heather from IDT.. and I hope it's very soooooooooooooon!!!
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_swede_ Deactivated User
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Posted - Jul 23 2007 : 4:34AM
I love deepthroating too, I wish there was more girls like Annette :P
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heart pure Deactivated User
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Posted - Jul 23 2007 : 4:45AM
Bobbi Starr is amazing. Unlike vagina and anus, throat has no "ring" muscles. Instead variety of linear muscles(just like biceps in shape) and straight ligaments are holding lower jaw and larynx in place. Gag reflex tightens these muscles and ligaments and this gives the incredible "grip". As to safety concerns, I used to work in a hospital as a male nurse and did not hear any incidents of internally inflicted throat injury. One doctor told me it is almost impossible to injure throat from inside, unless you are thrusting sharp objects(like sword swallowers do) Throat is built tough and it makes sense, after all, two life lines are in there. No.1 cause of throat injury is BTW car accident (throat hitting steering wheel etc.) Edited by - heart pure on 7/23/2007 4:48:53 AM Edited by - heart pure on 7/23/2007 5:07:41 AM
But it seems like some of the girls actually get off on it.
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That's because women are people too and they have fantasies just like everyone else. Some of them even have fantasies about this sort of thing. It's pretty common. I don't know how many of them actually are getting off on it and how many of them do it because they don't feel like they have much choice.
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So, has deepthroating gone too far these days, is it wrong or "unnatural" for guys to try to force their cock down the throat of these girls?
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Anytime you bring something that's too extreme into the eye of the general public, you're gonna have problems. We're still fighting with the ignorant fucks who don't think any kind of porn should be legal at all and we have guys in porn pushing the limits as far as they think they can. The general public won't find anything in this sort of porn but "Holy shit! Look at all that snot running down her face! Ever seen anything like it?". And then "That's disgusting! There ought ta be a law!". This kind of porn is better left to the fringes who enjoy it and seek it out. You're gonna have problems if you put it in every porn flick. But more to the point, a lot of this porn is just plain boring. There's no heart in it. It's like "Hey! Look at this! Isn't this extreme?". I can take a hammer and mindlessly bang on a sheet of steel and make a fuck of a lot of noise. But it's not music. Edited by - randomprecision on 7/23/2007 4:56:13 AM
I remember that scene with Sophie Evans in Gag Factor 2, at one point during the scene she shakes her head, says 'no' and the guy thrust his dick down her throat again... If it's real or not I don't know, but assuming it is, I haven't seen any worse deepthroating/gagging since, including Jake Malone-directed Throat Gaggers volumes. That the action is stopped in the scene with Bobbi Starr just shows that they don't want to be too rough, which makes me a lot more comfortable watching it. And I'm also waiting for the day when a girl manages to take the complete sword of Mandingo down her... stumic?
Deepthroating has always gone TOO far. It should've been named Deep Windpipe to be anatomically correct. The dick always goes past the throat and into the windpipe or esophagus with a short stop at the larynx(voice box).
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tritone Deactivated User
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Posted - Jul 23 2007 : 11:17AM
I have never been a fan of this type of "forced" oral. But thankfully there are many titles out now (and before) that cater to those of us who prefer more sexy, "vanilla"-style BJs. ..and the title of the video is Gang Bnag My Face .... So it makes no illusions about being a normal type BJ movie. BTW, I do think deepthroating is very sexy, but not when it involves a lot of loud gagging.
In the bad old days, BJs were the boring first 5 minutes of the scene I always ffwded through. It's made the world a better place to have widespread hard face-fucking becoming more widespread. I wish more non-specialist gag scenes used the "sitting backwards on a couch head upside down" method that really helps a girl's mouth emit all the fluids it can.
^And naturally, the dude's only goal seems to be to make her puke and have it run down her face. I'm not sure what the point of that is. It could be edited into something marginally hot if they had the sense to pull out before she actually blows chunks but instead, we get to see how whatever that was she had for lunch looks clinging to her eyebrows and hair. Nice! As long as we're going for maximum gross out, why don't we have another girl suck the regurgitated corn out of her nostrils?
The dude's goal is to push the girl's limits. If we take a look at several deepthroathing and gagging movies we will see that some scenes are 'not rough at all', and some very rough. To me it's about what level the girl can handle... if she won't give up until she's puking and grasping for air... I won't say it's wrong... maybe sick, crazy, perverted, demented etc etc. But not wrong. When it comes to Jake Malone, I feel that he brings a lot of competiveness out of the girls, he wants the girls to know how strong they really are - not how weak they're supposed to be.
Yeaa...I love seeing sexy girls gag on cocks...and have their eyes water and get dick slapped acrossed their face...and drool out lots of spit. I find that girls see it as a badge of honor if they can attempt and maybe even successfully deepthroat any dick that stares them in the face. The practice they get makes them better at their craft. That scene in Gangbang My Face 2 with Bobbi Starr which you were referring to was great...because Bobbi reached a point where the gagging was too much for her to bear and that she needed to breathe...and Jake Malone ( being the AWESOME director that he is ) asks Bobbi if she was all right...repeatedly..( because it seemed that Bobbi, in her mind at the time was truly "spaced out" or "somewhere else") and he made her relax....sit upright and catch her breath. As she's drooling and spitting on the floor..she tells Jake to move the camera out the way so that she can spit...and Jake tells her that he would love for her to spit into his face instead. LMAO! This seemed to catch Bobbi off guard...but the thought of doing this brings a smile to her face...and she spits in Jake's face gleefully.... over and over. Jake seemed to love this as much as Bobbi..and it was a real treat to see ( as ridiculous as it may sound) because this brought Bobbi back to Earth, and back into her comfort zone, by getting her to laugh...and to make her realize that she was alright,and that he'd never let any of his female performers get harmed.
-1 As a big fan of the deep throat genre, I have to say the "head upside down" position as seen so often in the Gag Factor series is my least favorite to watch. I don't like looking at the girl's head upside down, and I'm disgusted when all the goo and puke is all over her face and hair. It's much sexier when the saliva runs down her chin and onto her tits. THAT is sexy. A face covered with goo and puke is not.
Classic example of why I rarely buy porn anymore. It's made for chimp fans only.
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Posted - Sep 8 2007 : 7:56PM
I like deepthroat, throat fucking, and the whole head upside down hanging over the couch thing as well. But, I don't like it when tons of spittle is coming out of her mouth and vomit is probably the last thing I want to see. So, I guess I would say that it can go too far. At least for my tastes.
I love throat gagging. I like Gag Factor, and I like rough stuff like Max Hardcore. My girlfriend actually turned me on to Max Hardcore. I like seeing girls pushed to their limits.
If a girlcan deep throat a dick to the base and get throatfucked with no problem more power to her. I've seen a sara jay scene recently where she was throatfucked and i loved each second. She could take it though, no choking i'd rather stimulate your mind than emulate your purpose
Seems my opinion on this continues to evolve. I still like deep throating but most of the time, the way it's done just isn't really that arousing. What initially set me on the path of looking for deep throat/gagging movies were nice, sensual BJs where the gagging, drooling and so forth just happened to be a result. It didn't seem forced. Even though the guy might have rammed his cock down her throat, it didn't seem as though his goal was simply to make her gag or puke. Now, that seems to be all that matters. It doesn't matter if the guy's dick is even hard or not, as long as she gags. And it doesn't help that the guys tend to fuck her face like they're fucking a hole in the wall. It's a person. It would be nice if there was a bit more interaction than just grabbing her ears and hair and jerking her head all over the place. I do like to see a girl gag on cock but my feeling on this is 90% of the people in the business have no idea how to make it erotic. And that, I think, is what people would prefer to see instead of the gross out circus.
There is nobody who worships Bobbi Starr more than me. This was a hair-raising moment, I swear my heart stopped beating. But she is a fearless adventuress and I was really glad that I left the camera on and recorded the whole moment, straight through. It is IMHO, one of the "realest" , most revealing, and intense moments I have ever seen in a porn movie. It makes the hair on my neck stand up every time I watch it. I am stunned and awe-struck by Bobbi every time I get to shoot her. I'm going to release a Bobbi Starr compilation in Jan. that will have all the incredible scenes I have shot of her....(so far. lol) Bitchcraft, Fuck Slaves #2, Gang Bang My Face #2, Rookie Pussy #2, Nice Fucking View #2, Crimes Of The Cunt and a new scene with Bobbi, Lorelie, Jazz Duro and myself that I think is really cool. She's my avatar! Thanx 4 Watching! mod: snipped the quote - see the Forum Etiquette Edited by - hardware on 9/9/2007 7:55:41 PM
I love deep thoating and face fucking type stuff, though I don't really like movies in which that's all they focus on. Give us a little deep throating and face fucking here and there in between more slow BJs. I really don't like any scene where one thing goes on for too long. I like to see spikes and changes of rythem. Make it entertaining as well as erotic.
It goes to far when you start seeing vomit and snot coming out of the girl's mouth or nose. Other than that deepthroating and throatfucking is great. It's definitely hot when a girl tilts her head in a way that allows a bunch of guys to fuck her throat one after another. This is something that really takes talent. Even a very experienced dick sucker would have trouble doing that.
The Gag Sluts site has some good scenes. They seem to be mostly pretty inexperienced girls from Quebec. The scenes aren't all that rough, but they seem to do the trick - most of the girls bring up something other than spit at some point during their scene :)
I was barely legal during the Deep Throat years, and this was the talk of the industry for a couple years. Men gushed, women blushed, and a lot of people secretly went to adult theaters for the first time, walking out w changed attitudes. Like anything though, too much of a good thing diluted the quality, especially visually. Hey, lets face it, some angles of very hot physical acts just do not photograph well, especially unflattering to the female. It's all a matter of the director's creativity, a rare element today IMO. If Andrew Blake for example, ever did some of today's gonzo with his eye for visuals, I'd pay $100 for a DVD for the love of god. You never saw unsightly man ass, unflattering gape, chipmunk cheeks, jiggling cellulite at bad angles, even though this all existed back then. So IT CAN BE DONE, just not quickly enough for todays mass production in the interests of capital at all costs. I'd like to see more artistic depictions of deep throat: e.g.emphasis on the length of the cock as it is inhaled, side views showing the throat swelling. How about a super slow mo of deep throat input into a mouth filled with cum? Then from various angles? This would make a great opening scene in my dream title. Maybe we need a contemporary female director taking a shot here, especially if she had an appreciation for the genre back in her youth? Edited by - jonnyess on 12/23/2007 11:31:25 PM
Im a huge fan of deepthroating but watching some guy force their cock down a women throat while they gag and choke really isnt my cup of tea. Thats not true deepthroating to me, thats being "forced" to deepthroat. Any chick with a throat can have something shoved down there. The point and beauty of it all is having it go down easy, with no puking or vomiting involved. I enjoy watching women display their oral talents with real skills, such as on dildos, kielbasas, etc. C.J laing did a amazing job on "anyone but my husband". A true standout performance! and does anybody remember kielbasa queen and deepthroat dallas from the howard stern show? Ive been looking for the episodes featuring her hoping someone out there has recorded them and havent had any luck finding anything yet. My new love however is the lady at cynical angel.com I dont think that there is a man alive that this women couldnt deepthroat. She deepthroats 18 inch dildos like a 500 lbs fat bitch deepthroats hot dogs. Eassssssssssssssy!
Yeah, deep-throating has quite old-fashioned vanilla-blowjob connotations. I guess what the modern viewer wants to see is the guy repeatedly thrusting hard and deep, triggering the gag reaction until the girl chokes, splutters, and finally pukes. An interesting question is whether holding the girl's nose actually makes her gag more - I don't really think it does in practise.
Some deep throat scenes are really not deep throat because the size of the guy penis do not reach the back of the girl throat. What I like to see is the girl throat bulging from the guy's dick going down her throat. There is a scene with Mia Bangg that shows this and is really hot.
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"Allow me to extend my hand in friendship and shake yo fuckin neck" 82 Posts 10/07
Posted - Dec 25 2007 : 5:22PM
deep throating is hot, but not when the girl vomits or has snot coming out thats horrible and you know it doesnt feel good to the girl. facefucking can go a little too far at times but for girls like bobbi starr they can handle it, im sure that she didnt wanna vomit out of her nose tho. shes too pretty to have that done to her.
I like watching deep throating, but not too much puke please. I like it with the girls head over the couch etc. I don't like it when a guy with a small dick fucks the girl's face and she screams out and gags on it. That is so false, most girls could take a small dick easily or they should not be in porn. Regards Digby
Bobbi Starr, your scene in "No Cum Dodging Allowed #8" is one of the hottest facefucking scenes ever lensed, IMHO. Your energy, enthusiasm, and submissive streak all come together in a perfect storm of raunchiness and heat. Really amazing! Thank you.
deepthroating is great to watch if the girl is totally into and pushing herself. but if the guys hands are obviously on her head applying pressure and force her down a bit further than she wants to go.... that's fucked up. i've watched several deep thoat vids where the girl removes the guys hands off her head in a very obvious manner ... several times. so, when you see this in a scene, it's just a big turn off. i also agree about the upside down throat fucking. maybe if that is what the girl is into and it's her idea... then cool. otherwise the girls would be smart to just start walking off scenes when they're being forced to be uncomfortable.
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Kensington Chapp Senior Citizen
Mine is the biggest. 610 Posts 7/07
Posted - Jan 12 2008 : 4:48PM
Just like everything else in porn, the girls shouldn't do it unless they like it. Two of the best (due to the smoothness and lack of quacking and straining) DT's I've seen are Sasha in Babysitters and Angelina Valentino in Brazzer's BTAW "This is a Stick-up".
I don't mind some of this, the upside down or even pushing the girl down in a kind of way to push the girls limits. Again, testing limits is one thing. She would have to be on board and know she wouldn't necessarily be in control the whole time. If she wants to stop, then I don't believe in forcing someone to test their boundaries if they aren't cool with it. Bottom line is that this is rough sex, a rough area of play and that has to be understood. Everyone needs to be on board with this idea. At this point, there are so many videos with this, I don't see how someone could not do some research, but at the same time, you have to be willing to allow someone to bow out if they really are uncomfortable with what is happening. Edited by - jrsl76 on 1/12/2008 5:54:40 PM
I remember seeing a guy apply a little force by hold her head in back and forcing her to do it deeper and then when she does it to the balls; holds her head in that position until she cannot stand it anymore and she backs off - mainly to catch her breath! Then the guy wants it again and does it all over again but this time he uses both hands to hold her head in place. The gal seems to be turning blue and he lets her loose. She just takes in a couple breaths and he does it again; take both hands and this time using her hair and wrapping it around his fingers for total control and moves her head to inch it into his balls and then he moves her head horizontal two inches back and forth for four or five times and then when she is the deepest; holds it there for like 10 seconds and cums inside her throat; she gags and he instantly release her head! She spits as much of it out as possible; coughs and wipes her mouth with her hand before he gets her again and continues with the deep throat action until he cannot take it anymore and pulls out and ejaculate over over her face, and then she opens her mouth again to do some light oral on him to get all the semen out and he has a clean dick. She smiles for the camera with her face all covered with semen and saliva dripping off her chin. End of scene. That was a scene that was the most intends that I recall of any deep throat scene. the title was something like - "I like it deep babe!" It was so, so hot! The interest thing is that it was an amateur adult video made like in the mid-eighties that I rented. It was one of four scenes that were on the VHS; starting only the guy and the gal. It was total over the edge even for today's marketplace standards. I was surprised that it did not get censored for the scenes because they were very rough, brutal and extreme in the sex scenes.
Thank fully someone who thinks the way I do, it kind of worries that I enjoy it but disgusts me, i'd never do it but I don't mind watching it. Apart of me must be really messed up in someways and thinks apart of me craves really dirty things. Although when watching something like that and after you've done with the fun you feel really guilty afterwards. What is that about?
