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Speelie
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Fort Collins, CO
1191 Posts
5/01
Posted - Mar 8 2003 : 1:11PM
Hi Ayb, I think you might give people the wrong idea about the Lena, Eva/Alexandra, and Vanessa/Nikolette scene from True Anal Stories 18. You make it sound like something serious, when it is just Teo Roccaforte being silly. Rocco didn't know these women, AFAIK, but they are all old friends of Teo from the making of a bunch of movies at that same site, the House of Ass in Budapest, a few months earlier in April 2002 (Orgy World 2, for example). Teo of course is just a bit nutty, so I imagine it was his idea to pretend Lena was a schoolgirl put in a pit, but any idea that this was supposed to be in any way real was removed (for me, at least), by Eva playfully slapping Teo's face, by the way she told Rocco, "Let's go to fuck!" and by the way Teo and Lena join Rocco with Eva and Vanessa. Even Vanessa can't keep a straight face at the sight of Teo's tie tied around Lena's neck and his own cock. These are the sorts of things Teo does to keep it fun with the girls with whom he's already quite familiar. I think "real" degradation isn't silly and fun, it tends to be much more serious, perhaps even humorless, as found in the work of Mason and Max, and I don't think anyone is going to confuse this scene with one from those two.

Still, I agree that overall this movie was quite enjoyable!

aybesea
Senior Member

Caroline Cage - Hungarian Hottie!
1485 Posts
5/02
Posted - Mar 8 2003 : 8:46PM
Speelie,

You're probably right... I've just got this hot button when it comes to anything degrading. To me sex can be dirty, but it shouldn't be painful or humiliating. So when it starts to go there, I get turned off real fast!

Anyway, as the overall 4 ranking shows, I didn't have a lot of problems with this disc. I just would have liked it better if they'd have left that part out.

M.B.
Senior Member

1679 Posts
2/01
Posted - Mar 8 2003 : 9:21PM
I wasn't impressed with this installment of Rocco's True Anal Stories. I think that last really good movies Rocco put out were Animal Trainer #8 and Roccomotohard.
TAS #18 suffers from some bad lighting especially with the outdoor scene, way too dark in some spots.
I don't know, it just seems like some of Rocco's movies have been lacking in the heat department lately. I'm used to seeing the no holes barred wild sex from Rocco, but lately his stuff has been tame and ordinary.
Maybe I just expect more from his titles because he has made some great porn.
I'm hoping he gets back to the more aggressive type sex he has been known for in the past.
MLyons
Senior Member

1617 Posts
8/02
Posted - Mar 8 2003 : 10:19PM
I can't get behind you there M.B. Although I agree that his stuff of late hasn't been as ... well... rough, Rocco's Initiations 5 pretty well rocked that house for me... at least the first scene, and most of the second scene did. I'll be looking forward to Initiations 6 as he seems to be on a special trend in that series. I haven't seen TAS 18 yet, but I am interested.

Mike L.

skronker
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9780 Posts
9/02
Posted - Mar 8 2003 : 10:27PM
TAS has been less compelling to me of late. Animal Trainer, too. I think it;'s difficult, because AT 2,3,4 and 5 all had scenes that made me quake at their intensity/insanity. Ditto, Rocco's Way to Love. And it's all over-the-top sex, but you can't hit that level every time out. Teo is the funniest porn guy alive, on top of that he;s very gay ... but I kinda like that aspect, in general, about the European stuff. Hard AND soft, that really works for me.

But here's another question; Why in porn is it only the black guys that are the comedians? Look at Big Black Monster Dicks, for instance, and all that clowning. It's cute, or bothersome, but I also wonder about the persistence of it. Fucking Wesley Pipes -- who I love, despite what people say -- he's always going for the silly. But, damn, that's another thread.


 
Speelie
Senior Member

Fort Collins, CO
1191 Posts
5/01
Posted - Mar 8 2003 : 10:46PM
Teo is certainly extremely homo-erotic at times. He seems like a natural comedian, but I'm guessing he further developed this as some sort of safety mechanism years ago when he was in many ways an outsider. He was black guy who came to Europe after growing up in Venezuela and Brazil, and perhaps humor helped him initially gain acceptance. Many of the current European porn studs seem rather humorless, so Teo has a good effect on both the guys and the girls with whom he shares sets. He certainly keeps the actresses in a good mood, so that most seem delighted to work with him.

Ayb, I think I was extra sensitive to the scene in question because I enjoy thatone so much. I'm glad that Rocco no longer simply pushes the girls over and rams them full of cock. He instead interacts with them on more than the most basic level, and in this scene we get to see how well this works with Vanessa in particular. He has her figuratively eating out of his hand, and she and Eva glow.
Lena mainly sticks with Teo, and keeps looking at him adoringly. I've watched this scene again and again for the past couple of weeks, revelling in the fun everyone is having. I think there's plenty of crudely done scenes out there, made with as little emotion as possible, and I'm glad Rocco has gradually changed his focus from "hard" to "fun."

DreamWeaver
Member

288 Posts
10/02
Posted - Mar 8 2003 : 11:07PM
maybe you guys can help me out. I asked aybesea the same question but he was not sure who she was...

Is the Amanda in this release Amanda Angel? she's a hot blonde with some amazing deep throating skills which can be seen in rocco's way to love and animal trainer #4.

thanks.

MLyons
Senior Member

1617 Posts
8/02
Posted - Mar 8 2003 : 11:13PM
I seriously doubt it Dreamweaver.

Amanda Angel has long since changed her name to Lynn Stone and was working under contract with Private last I saw her.

I really doubt seriously that this is the same Amanda.

Mike L.

DreamWeaver
Member

288 Posts
10/02
Posted - Mar 8 2003 : 11:33PM
Mike,

yeah, she's been working for private as lynn stone for quite some time now, but wasnt she working under both names for awhile? I may be mistaken.

Anyways, Aybesea sent me an email and said he thinks it is Amanda Angel, although is not positive. (By the way, thanks for getting back to me). Interesting!

Anyone else confirm? Thanks.

Speelie
Senior Member

Fort Collins, CO
1191 Posts
5/01
Posted - Mar 8 2003 : 11:46PM
Dreamweaver, her full porn name is Amanda Twice, and she's another of those girls who always earn my praise because she never takes a scene off. She's always full of enthusiasm, and seems to genuinely enjoy heavy anal action. Here's the movies I have with her : Sexx the Hard Way 1, Killer Pussy 6, Blowjob Impossible 1, Hardcore Innocence 3, and Orgy World 1. She's also in 18 and Nasty 28, which I haven't seen since I'm awaiting the eventual DVD. Amanda is not the single prettiest girl in Euro porn, but she's one of the best performers IMHO.
DreamWeaver
Member

288 Posts
10/02
Posted - Mar 9 2003 : 12:21AM
ok, thanks speelie. ...although I got it the first post you crazy nut. :P (your 8 identical posts was a system glitch i guess)

I'm familiar with Amanda Twice and although I think she's great, she's not nearly the hot number Amanda Angel is..

..it's a shame she's only with private now (not a fan of them). It was wishful thinking on my part that she made a move away.

DreamWeaver

aybesea
Senior Member

Caroline Cage - Hungarian Hottie!
1485 Posts
5/02
Posted - Mar 9 2003 : 12:23AM
Sorry for the mis-info DreamWeaver... from the box cover you sent, she sure looked the same. But Speelie is definitely the ID expert!
skronker
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9780 Posts
9/02
Posted - Mar 9 2003 : 3:04AM
Yes! Amanda Angel. Top 10 Euro Babe in my book.
balabala
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968 Posts
8/02
Posted - Mar 9 2003 : 10:22AM
She's top 5 for me.
Speelie
Senior Member

Fort Collins, CO
1191 Posts
5/01
Posted - Mar 9 2003 : 4:23PM
It was a system glitch that led to the multiple posting, sorry about that, and thanks to DenverDon for removing it. As to Amanda Angel, I love her in various movies. Lynn Stone, on the other hand, doesn't do much for me, between the short hair and the Adamo style of moviemaking. Amanda/Lynn does have a scene out there almost no one knows about. She appears in Cumback Pussy 40 under her real name of "Linda." And anyone with access to European DVDs (meaning made and distributed in Europe) can see perhaps her first ever scene in 18 Filles Pour Gabriel Zero (Aybesea, check out the final scene on the disk to see Nacho with "Linda" and Marina, the covergirl to Assman 14).
 
aybesea
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Caroline Cage - Hungarian Hottie!
1485 Posts
5/02
Posted - Mar 9 2003 : 7:34PM
Speelie, thanks for the tip. Will do.
skronker
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9780 Posts
9/02
Posted - Mar 9 2003 : 8:27PM
Ain't it always the way. Like Richard Wright's Invisible Man said: "Overwhelm them with yesses, undermine them with grins."



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