Came across this poll which has received over two thousand votes. Results are pretty interesting. Do All White Guys Like Watching Interracial Porn? What do you folks make of that poll? You may notice there is a bit of confusion though with the presentation of that question and the supplied choices because for starters I don't think anyone is qualified to speak for all of a group. Cuz if a question is simply "Do ALL of Group X enjoy subject Y" then invariably the answer is going to be NO. As we can plainly see not all white guys like IR. So I think that question was not posed very well, the results were interesting nonetheless (Two thirds say YES!). Consequently I decided it would be better to just broaden the question. For the purpose of this topic, I want IR (interracial to the layman) to encompass not just BM/WF but WM/BF or pretty much any other mix. Any type of sex comprised of partners of various races can qualify for this discussion. What does the term mean to you, by definition? What kinds, if any, do you like? Now mind you, anyone who wants to respond in here is welcome to identify what gender or ethnicity they are, but also shall be respected if they rather not disclose that. Everyone is welcome to chime in regardless, not just white males. It's an inquiry, not an inquisition. I noticed this topic can become a bit contentious, sometimes downright hostile, and yet the theme of IR remains very popular. Food for thought: here was one comment I found interesting, voiced by a very popular current star Yasmine de Leon; the original topic was BDSM, all the guests of the show having been featured at Kink.com, a powerhouse of BDSM production, then the discussion veered to IR. Take a Listen Remember there are no right or wrong answers, so please let's all be respectful and enjoy the discussion.
That is a typical fake test there , there's no neutral answer it is assumed that those who watch IR porn actually look for it , one of the answers is nonsensical "yes I'd wish it was my wife" which is a very specific niche of interracial , the vast majority of porn consumers aren't keen to be cuckolded The answers with no are similar either is not your thing because you just don't like it (for example many people cannot imagine himself as a member of another race , this happens to either white or black guys) or because you are racist either way the answer would be no. If you remove the third answer (it's disgusting) you will still have the same percentage those who would find it disgusting would just answer "not my thing" I watch IR porn , I discovered I have a lot of it, but I don't look for it , I just don't care , so my answer would be no I don't "like" IR just because it is IR , I I like porn whatever the races depicted, so I like IR as part of porn not simply IR
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Posted - Sep 26 2014 : 1:52AM
Yes, I like to watch "IR" performances. I'm looking forward to the day, when the term "IR", is no longer used in the industry. Just list the names of the performers and leave the racist, bullsh**t descriptions of the performances out. This old white boy likes watching Jack Napier's performances, because he is a friendly, good-natured human being. L.T. has a nice way with the ladies as well.
I watch it but I prefer for it to be incidental. The portrayals of black men as thugs/gangsters/degenerates/criminals taking advantage of the teeny weeny, vulnerable, naive little white girls are pretty tedious.
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Posted - Sep 26 2014 : 4:27AM
I'm a white guy from Philly (Philadelphia) and I certainly enjoy IR (white female/black male) porn. I'd point to Blacked.com as IR porn at its finest. Additionally, I also like seeing black girls fuck white guys, though this is hard to find; Dogfart network, however, recently did add We Fuck Black Girls to their network of sites. Bottom line, for me, is that since I've lived in such an ethnically diverse city for pretty much my entire life, when it comes to girls I've got a hankering for 'em all: white girls, Asian girls, Latinas and ebony babes. I love this "variety," but frankly, the mainstream porn industry doesn't provide enough of it in regards to female casting. When it comes to casting girls for the major studios, as far as I'm concerned, their movies are whiter now than they were a decade or so ago.
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I am indifferent to the color of dicks in porn. I'm not american and do not live under a racial caste system. ________________________________________________ Please ID these girls from PlayboyTV's Foursome show Edited by - hoochimama on 9/26/2014 6:04:09 PM
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Posted - Sep 26 2014 : 9:59PM
personally i love it. ima white guy but i know white guys that don't like it too. most of my closer white male circle love it though. couple years back when we go on our monthly trip to the adult dvd store for porn we just go straight to the interracial stuff. we love watching white woman getting pleasured by black or ethnic males. it just gets us off more hehe. sometimes some of my friend say it's homo for us to like seeing interracial porn but i think he just wants to discourage us seems pretty normal now a days for white guys to enjoy watching white woman in interracial porn. i can see it becoming more of a norm for us white males. i will continue to buy interracial porn dvd in the future as well.
I do not go out seeking it, nor do I try to avoid it. I enjoy scenes for the chemistry between the actors and actresses, it doesn't matter to me if both performers are of one race or if they are of different races. I also tend to go for features over all sex movies, so I prefer actors and actresses that can handle their roles as well.
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Posted - Sep 27 2014 : 9:40AM
Lately more Black men and women are showing up on porn sites. Still too few but it looks better than a few months ago. There is no way to prove it but the debates about ir and Black women on this site probably has something to do with it. So if you want the trend to continue don't let the issue die. Let the producers know they need you a lot more than you need them and you want to see variety in the industry.
I don't know but I'm doing this since years and more pressing this late two years , there's a lot of beautiful black girls out there and I still can't believe that a beauty like Serena Ali didn't become a big
I'm black, so I think I like or prefer IR almost by by default. But I don't like IR just for the sake of IR, it has to be with girls I like to see because my porn viewing is always about the girls first and foremost. After that it gets complicated. There are a few girls I mostly only watch if they're doing IR but those are usualy girls who tend to do a lot of IR and I think they do their best work when they do IR. With many other girls I don't care about them doing IR or not because their best work isn't always their IR scenes. I don't get as caught up in themes as much as some people apparently do. I'm fine with the "white girl/ black 'thug'" theme, the "little white girl/big black guy" theme and most of the IR "cuckold" stuff. It's all fantasy/fetish stuff that to me isn't any different than most of porn's othere theme porn like babysitters, secretaries, cheerleaders, MILFs, etc., etc...For me the cuckold stuff can get a bit creepy but as long as the husband/boyfriend doesn't start doing stuff to the guy or things don't venture into "gay" territory I'm okay with cuckold porn. In the end it's all just black guys with white girls and that's what I want to see.
I'm like flash in that I care a lot more about the chemistry between the performers than their racial background but unlike him I do look for IR porn. It's doesn't take me very long to find it since it is still a rather small niche when compared to the caucasian one. I enjoy it when the difference in skin color between performers is more pronounced. A good example is someone like Asphyxia Noir and her scene on Blacks on Blondes.
I enjoy interracial porn when it's a white male with a non-white female. Being a straight white male that's also the only sort of interracial sex I've ever had (with a black ex-girlfriend) or have ever wanted to have but haven't actually had (with thousands of women of every race). When I watch porn, I'm going for the fantasy that I get to be with that woman (or women). So, I want the men in the porn I watch to contribute to that, or at least not get in the way of it, which means resembling me as much as possible. By extension, the less the guy in a scene resembles me, the less I enjoy or want to watch the scene. Just like shaving his chest hair, being skinny, having a bunch of tattoos, or talking a lot during sex, being non-white is something that makes a man not resemble me. No thanks. Edited by - MisandryMan on 9/27/2014 11:35:37 AM
I don't give two shits whether it's interracial or not. If the chemistry is good then I like the scene. I have the same opinion regarding anal or non anal scenes, I only enjoy anal scenes when there's chemistry and it's executed well. Like the Franceska Jaimes, Aletta Ocean threesome now that is fucking porn. Hot girls, ass to mouth and the anal parts were awesome. Another great interracial scene, Aletta Ocean and Alicia Tease. Just the execution and the sex must be enjoyable for both parties. I can't enjoy a scene if it's interracial or anal if the girl and/or guy isn't into it. I HATE "painal" scenes because the girl is in pain and not the good kinda pain.
I'm white and I love white guy/black girl IR. I find black girls to be the most beautiful and it's a shame that a girl like Megan Vaughn for example doesn't get as much work despite being better looking and a better performer than 90% of other girls in porn that have way more scenes under their belt.
my tastes in porn has evolved over the years. although i've dated every color of the rainbow, i was pretty much only into black women when i first got into porn (i'm an ass man). then came adriana sage. i fell in love with her, and every (natural) latina i could find. then came katsuni...and so on and so on. but it wasn't until recently that i cared about the race of the male(s) in the scene. they were just part of the background, like a plant in the corner or a picture on the wall. but now, especially since my porn preference is for white women (so...since black/latin women with big asses are said to have a "ghetto booty" do the white/asian women with big asses have a "condo booty"?), watching them with black guys adds to my fantasy factor. it helps that the guy looks, in some ways, like me so i can sorta project myself into the scene. i have to say that jack napier reminds me of me...minus an inch or two...but he has fun and that's how i am when i'm with a woman, so i really enjoy watching any scene he's in. the milfs like it black crew cracks me up as well. sometimes when the female star(s) aren't my cup of tea, the backstory that leads up to the sex will make me watch the scene anyway. all in all, i'm in a strictly IR black male/white/asian/latin female groove right now...and i'm starting to not mind (some) fake boobs...go figure...
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Posted - Oct 3 2014 : 7:04PM
I do not dislike it to the point where I refuse to watch but generally it does not excite me or turn me on as much as 'non-IR' porn, for some reason. There are exceptions of course, which are usually down to the individual male performer. The only scenes I can enjoy as much as a 'non-IR' scenes are those with either Lex or Prince because they know how to get the most out of the girls and yet have two quite different styles of performing. Aside from these two, I generally don't get as easily turned on by IR scenes, in general.
I don't know how much stock to put into this, but it does seem to be one of the better selling genres. http://www.xrentdvd.com/Top_Adult_DVD_Rentals.html Out of the top current top 10 rentals, 5 of them are IR, and 6 feature IR on the cover. The top #1-4 are all IR right now. http://www.xrentdvd.com/Top_Adult_DVD_Sales.html Sales are a bit different. To be frank, I think your average white consumer probably has a bit more disposable income and consequently when it comes to sales, white consumers probably have more influence. If you don't have as much disposable income these days, you're likelier to rent. I personally think renting makes more sense whether you are wealthy or not. But if I could assume, then I would figure that black and hispanic consumers are more inclined to rent, and I can't blame them. That might be part of why IR and ethnic movies rank higher on the rentals chart. But still, even looking at sales, by and large these are American markets driven by white consumers and there's no disputing that IR is highly popular. AND STILL, the #1 and #2 selling movies are IR, and 3 of the top 5 selling movies at Xrent are IR, as well as 4 of the top 5 which feature IR. (Romi Rain's DarkSide has 1 IR scene). Then at another vendor 4 of the top 12 selling movies are IR, and again the #1 is an IR movie. http://www.adultdvdempire.com/best-selling-porn-movies.html
Totally agreed. It's such a turn off if she's not enjoying it. I'd rather watch BDSM because at least there I know the girls are into pain. Kink does a good job with the good kind of pain.
^^ I don't know how much such stats are actually representative of a true trend they are all showcases starring top rated stars , they may have been in such position regardless the scenes. That of Nikki Benz however is a phenomenon it appear to be sold out in many places, it's a first , a career changing experience , that count as well, same for Romi Rain , also Jules Jordan's Videos are better distributed than any else , it should be noted that 4 out of five top rentals and sales are actually distributed by JJV including those of Blacked. Might be a mere coincidence rather than an actual trend
It's been very popular though and increasingly so for a while now, regardless of star showcases or not though, and not all of them are. Blondes Go Black was not a star showcase, and The Brother Load is not either. Those were both topping the sales. Black Owned is consistently at the top when it comes out as well. Lots of West Coast movies have topped as well, mostly their IR movies, such as Black Fucking Diary. But it's true that most of the top sellers come from only a few companies. That's why I think it's reasonable that there is room for more. As you noted, Blacked has 4 different movies topping the charts all inside of a couple months, yet they did not create the demand in the market. The demand was already there waiting for someone smart enough to tailor some quality product to them. I also don't think that most sales are driven by brand recognition either. It's not like technology. Entertainment is driven by tastes. With tech, Apple can sell a ton of shit off brand recognition. But folks aren't buying Blondes Go Black just because HardX is a great company, which they are. They want IR and they see the most attractive looking cover and stars.
^ Mason tops with whatever movie she does , though she put very often an IR scene in her movies and so does Rocco but none of them is labeled IR , Blondes go Black is one of the few IR movies made by Mason The others you mentioned are made by Chris Streams another guy who tops basically with anything he does much like Jules Jordan these are no proof , they would be there in any case , Anikka 2 would likely reach such position , would do regardless her anal with Mandingo
I only watch girls that do IR with really no exceptions. I would watch a girl who doesn't perform IR but she has to be a incredible performer or ridiculously hot. Im black though so I don't know if that poll applies to me.
It does it's a statistic about sales , so if you buy movies or scenes from websites that would definitely apply , but as said it has no actual meaning because there's no reference whatsoever , they are all top sellers , Alina Li Fuck Toy and basically anything with her was a top seller yet it didn't mean there was a craving for Asians in customer tastes , it was just Alina. Either Nikki Benz and Romi Rain have their strong fanbase their showcases would have sold regardless the scenes , that of Nikki appeared quite remarkable from either trailer and preview pictures , and that explains everything , same for Romi Rain , next Anikka 2 would also top the charts , again it's a concurrent effect, Mason Directing and Anikka's skills and hotness I don't think her anal scene with Mandingo would be enough to top the sales
^ I don't think so , I'm European and I don't care either we don't even use the word "race" referred to people , our profiles and our IDs don't have any reference to ethnicity , if needed we specify "complexion" in the feature field , with the only purpose to facilitate the identification of the one described
I think you are over-estimating director influence. In other words, you're trying to say people are buying Blondes Go Black because it's directed by Mason, rather than because they are looking for an IR movie, and that it's just incidental that the movie happens to be IR. Or that you are saying people aren't specifically in the market for IR movie, but they bought Black Owned because Jules Jordan directed it. I know JJ is arguably the top brand recognized director, he literally made a brand out of his own name. I can't even think of any other major studio like that. All the other companies don't use a director's name as the brand. But even still, as good as JJ is, I doubt most people are picking up an interracial movie just because of the brand, and not mainly because they like IR. In other words, I'm saying if a person doesn't like IR, they're not going to be buying any of these IR movies just because Mason or Jules has their name on it. They may have some marginal degree of influence, but ultimately I don't think even the best directors are selling genres to people who don't like it. For instance, I am a big fan of JJ and Mason, and I recognize their name to denote quality. But if one of them makes a all gangbang movie, I'm not interested. It doesn't matter that they are two of my favorite directors. I'm not interested in them making a movie based on genres I don't like. That's why I don't go for any gangbang or blowbang movies. Just because Jules Jordan's name is on a gangbang/blowbang flick, doesn't mean I'm the least interested. And I'm sure most of the average consumers are like this. If they don't like IR, they aren't going to pick up an IR flick just because Mason or Chris Streams or JJ made it. The reason IR movies top sales and rental charts is chiefly because people like IR. Edited by - Melvyn on 10/7/2014 2:23:37 PM
I think that poll in the link was for white dudes, but THIS thread is for anyone to give their opinions on IR. So thanks for sharing your views, and everyone reading else is welcome too.
A few things. First, Alina Li Fuck Toy was only very briefly a top seller. It didn't stay on the charts all that long. I agree with you that in her case, since she is newer, that Jules Jordan's name did play a larger factor, plus that goes hand in hand with his having established the Fuck Toy series. It's brand recognition with series recognition. But even taking that into consideration, it didn't stay on the charts nearly as long as My First Interracial by Blacked, which is a brand new company with no prior recognition. They launched just a few months before putting that movie out, so pretty much all the appeal they had to ride was on the IR genre. It wasn't a star feature like the Nikki Benz or Romi Rain movies, and again I grant for those, star recognition is much greater factor. But I'm talking mainly about IR in general. Lots of movies consistently in the top sellers, regardless of being star features or not, and not just the same companies either, as if they are niche. Anyway I think it is pretty clear that IR is among the most popular genres. Don't think there's any way to refute that.
^ Man Blacked is distributed worldwide by Jules Jordan , you really UNDERestimate the importance of wide and thorough distribution everywhere , I have troubles to find Elegant Angel movies right now same for Burning Angel a thorough distribution helps a lot the sales and the rentals. Also you assuming with no bases that basically the majority of consumers seek for IR , which is not , you claim that Alina Li Fuck Toy stayed on top just for a week yet you sustain your assumption with movies who are out since just a week. Also Blondes go Black had Kagney Linn Karter on the cover , a star high in demand with her there was Scarlet Red a rising star who is in demand too , you just picked up one part of the movie and assumed it was the relevant one. And remember Mason is a name who sales , you say Jules Jordan Video made a name out him but forget that JJV publishes lots of other directors but either Hard X and Erotica X are completely sustained by Mason , so far she is the only director of the brand , and yet she tops basically with anything she makes and you say I overestimate the powers of directors? What about Chris Streams? What about Rocco Siffredi What about William H? What about Manuel Ferrara? all those guys sell because of them not because there is some IR in their movies Mimefreak founded with others a new company called ArchAngel there are two upcoming movies one of them Beautiful Tits has Kagney Linn Karter on the cover , much like Blondes go Black for one good reason she helps the sales His other movie is the Booty Movie which features Kendra Lust's first IR a star in high demand , it is likely that such first IR may boost the sales , but I'm pretty sure it would sell regardless. Also you may like to notice that the biggest network of sites in the world , Brazzers no longer has an active exclusively IR site aside Round and Brown but this is focused on black girls ,they shoot some IR scenes though but it's nothing compared to overwhelming non IR scenes they update every week
LCF, answer this simple question you seem to be dodging. While you're going on and on about brand recognition, and star popularity, listing all these directors, I just want to know something. If any director you have named, such as Rocco, Mason, Jules Jordan, Chris Streams, Manuel, or any other popular director like Joey Silvera, or William H, or Mika Adriano or Manuel, you can take ANY of them, and they made a BBW grannies movie, that it would be a top seller? Take your favorite director and imagine them making a movie of a genre you don't like. Do you suddenly become interested in it, just because of the name of the director? If your favorite porn star stars in a feature where every scene is her using a strapon on huge BBW chicks, are you gonna check that out because she's popular and it's directed by your favorite director?
It is a very false reasoning , you put a very minimal market that for granny most men find unattractive if not repulsive It was implied from my posts that attractive girls sell a lot I mentioned KLK for example not my dead Granma But then you can easily answer to this :do you think that Rocco actually sells because there's always an IR scene in his movies , do you think it's Mike Chapman or Kid Jamaica who make him sell his movies? Do you think that Mason's Remy sold that much because there was a scene with Lex? Do you really think that Romi Rain Darkside sells because of her IR scene? You also claimed that Alina Li Fuck Toy could use the benefit of an established series , but forgot to mention that none of the previous issue of the series had any IR scene in it not even that of Riley Reid which did and does plenty IR scenes, yet the series is rather successful and it's not an IR one.
Alls I'm saying is it seems quite clear that IR is one of the most popular genres and there's reason it sells so well. IR is also not the only genre that uses popular stars like Kagney Lynn Karter and popular directors. You seem to think these are crutches that the IR genre has a monopoly on. As if IR is an entity with a stranglehold on talent. It makes a lot more sense to attribute the popularity of IR to... well, the obvious fact that it's popular in and of itself. Why that is so hard for you to recognize is beyond me. Do you think more and more talent is going to IR just because they felt like arbitrarily going into a unpopular genre and working against the grain to make it popular? No. It makes a lot more sense that they are simply recognizing that IR is popular. IR attracts the talent, because it sells. And it sells because it's popular, and it's popular because obviously people like it. I think you're looking at this backwards, as if the demand is not really there, but being manufactured by the porn companies. No, the demand comes from consumers. If you're indifferent to IR, that's fine. I say to each his own. But if you're trying to dismiss the popularity of IR as simply being driven by a indifferent market, that seems pretty coincidental. But maybe most people are indifferent as well. You could be right. But in that case it's a pretty big coincidence then that it sells so much when it's not produced nearly as much. Vanilla content probably accounts for 80% of what is produced, if not much more. So it seems a huge coincidence to accept your argument that people are indifferent to IR if IR is so common in the top of many sales charts. I can only estimate, but it seems like IR accounts for only about 1/5 of what is produced at best, but actually probably much less than that. Probably less than 1/10th. If only 1 in 10 movies at Xrent.com is IR, then your answer in explaining why 5 out of 10 of the top selling movies being IR, which is not that IR is popular, but it's just coincidental with having popular stars on the cover and made by popular companies, seems like a weak one. Is that really the better explanation instead of simply acknowledging that IR is popular in and of itself as a genre?
Nope. You never heard me argue that the only reason general gonzo producers and directors sell is because of IR. That's a straw man if ever there was on. The mainstream gonzo companies will sell even if they exclude IR altogether, but not as well as they sell by including IR. You mentioned Brazzers in your other post. That's a company that would only benefit by including IR more regularly. They are already one of the most popular companies because of longevity and variety and the sheer volume of their content. They produce IR very very rarely, and if they excluded it altogether it wouldn't hurt them that much. They'd still be near the top. However, if they really wanted to significantly increase their membership, it certainly would not hurt if they got hip to the fact that IR is popular. Hell they could boost their subscriptions by 10 or 15%. That would be an enormous profit for them. It's actually a good example of why they should have diversified more by now. Brazzers makes over 50 scenes per month. Out of 50, maybe 1 is IR. Imagine if they just considered doing 4 IR scenes a month, they would still have 46 vanilla, and just 4 IR. But 4 IR scenes a month would match what Blacked is doing, and they are having a lot of success with just weekly updates. But instead of diversifying and capitalizing, Brazzers left that market untapped, and Blacked comes in and swoops it up, smartly. So Brazzers is napping on IR and losing money the way I see it. They could have EASILY produced as much IR as Blacked while still being 90% vanilla. Think about it. 1 in 50 scenes is just 2%. They really think that's the best they can do? These days it just seems stupid from a business perspective to limit the appeal of your product to such an extreme degree. I'm not saying quotas need to be enforced, as I don't advocate that. But it just seems to make more sense to recognize they could be makin more by diversifying even just a tiny bit.
^ I never said IR has no market , I'm saying it's not as big as you imply it is. and no the stars aren't doing IR just because it sells they are literally tortured by the Taliban of IR that harass them anywhere , they want to just confess and get rid of such pain so they amend shooting some IR there are very few exception to this , kendra Lust couldn't care less about those guys but Mimefreak worked her a lot in over a year and convinced her to shoot one. Now the usual guys are harassing Aidra Fox who tries to get free hinting to a possibility (she said in a teenfidelity BTS apparently) but they call her a troll and a liar because no scene is out after some ten days , it's getting worse by the day , she made the wrong move , but I wonder what the right move with those monomaniacs would be? They harassed Nikki Benz until her movie was announced but then thay said it doesn't matter it was too late they're not interested anymore even though they kept asking IR and calling her racist until minutes before the announcement. No it's not the money , it's survival , not survival in porn, true survival of their mental sanity. Keisha Grey suffered for a long time because of them she shot two scenes for blacked , but the site was to be launched months further , there was no way to be safe , they called her names of which "liar" "racist" and "troll" were the gentlest until the launch of blacked.Siri also basically left this board because of them The Anal fanatics are now doing the very same , poor Riley Reid is struggling (dealing would be an understatement) with them , she already left this board because of them As for Brazzers , take a look to the network , they did have THREE IR devoted sites , all of them went out of business between 2007 and 2009, lack of downloads from them it would seem, they chose to invest their money on more in request content , such as Pornstar Punishment which they had to shut down for different reasons. If IR is so much in demand I just wonder why so many companies who shot it are out of business or are struggling to survive, isn't this contradictory with your statements? I've never seen any IR made by Devil's nor West Coast nor Black Market, nor Combat Zone , nor Darkside,nor Candy Shop , nor Justin Slayer, nor the Freaky Empire (not even shooting Montana Fishburne) , nor Black Ice, nor Woodburn at the top of any sales, not even close to it. Not even Mandingo made it. And this is what lead me to think that it's not the kind of content what pushes JJV , Mason's and Chris Streams' material so high, it's the quality of it regardless the subject
1, the attacks by trolls is a whole nother topic. Yes that behavior is contemptuous and should be prohibited. They are very vocal but they don't drive markets, so they don't really matter here. 2, West Coast Productions is not the powerhouse that other mainstream companies are, nor can they be. As far as I know they have always catered to ethnic interest, however, they have had multiple hits in the top 10 sellers on various vendor sites, including titles such as "Mom's Black Fucking Diary 3", "Houseives Gone Black 14" and "Teen Anal Nightmare." I've seen these chart in a few different top 10 and some got into top 5. But these other companies you make mention of are smaller and even more niche, and cater less to IR than regular black. IR is in fact the bridging theme which helps these niche companies compete in mainstream markets. Because if they did just black, then they are generally overlooked by mainstream, not excluded totally, but generally. And if they did just white, then they aren't even catering to their own base, so of course they dont make those. These other companies are more niche, and consequently their occasional presence in the top 10 charts is more rare. But if you're looking for examples outside of Blacked, Jules Jordan, West Coast Prod, HardX, and Evil Angel, there are more than a few who have succeeded in breaking the top 10 with IR releases. Zero Tolerance with "Watch My Mommy Go Black" "Black Male White Tail #2" and "White is the New Black" Digital Sin with "Interracial Family Affair" "Bigger in Black" and their myriad "Shane Diesel" movies Dream Zone with their "Housewives of Lex Steele" New Sensations "As Big As it Gets" These have all been in top 10 sales, rentals, trending at various vendors, and are just examples I recall seeing in the last year, but I could probably think of a lot more too. Most sites don't seem to keep records of their charts though. AND even Brazzers first IR movie "Interracial Fantasy" is currently at #12 for rentals and #19 on sales at Xrent. Not bad considering they do almost zero catering to IR in the last 5 years. In fact, "Interracial Fantasy" is currently Brazzers top selling and renting title: http://www.xrentdvd.com/studio/Brazzers.14-1389.html But lets bring it back. I think the fundamental dispute we're having seems to be talking past each other. I think we both agree IR is popular. But I think you seem to think I'm putting it out there like I'm saying it's MORE popular than most mainstream top 10 fare. I'm not saying that. What I am saying is IR is more popular than many other sub-genres or categories. I think there are some notable genres which are at the top and far more popular though, simply by having more inherent universal appeal though, stuff like BigBreast/Teen/Milf/ and Anal genres. Those are also not mutually exclusive with other genres either, and most of the time there is overlapping genres. Edited by - Melvyn on 10/7/2014 6:50:13 PM
The BRAZZERS IR thing is interesting. Like you mention they used to have sites devoted to IR. I've never subscribed to their site but when they started putting out DVDs of their online content I was looking forward to them putting out that IR content on DVDs....but they didn't. Later, they started releasing some of it under the MOFOS line like MILFs LIKE IT BLACK. I was thinking that was going to be like typical BRAZZERS scenes except for being IR. It isn't. There have been times I've bought MOFOS to see a particular girl but I don't like the scenes in those movies because the guys who are in those movies and spend more time on camera talking and hanging out than I really care to see. Once I finish fast-forwarding past them and get to the sex, I find the sex usually is merely okay and not as good as the average white on white BRAZZERS scene. I'm wondering if most of the BRAZZERS IR was like this and also wonder if it was if that didn't play a part in why those IR sites weren't more succesful. Their IR stuff must have done fairly badly that they don't even bother to release content that's already been shot on DVD. As for the JULES JORDAN IR stuff....I think the JJ name is about 75% of what sells his/their IR stuff. I think for many people JJ puts out product at at a certain level and they have fans who will buy most of that stuff automatically regardless of the content. They switch the themes enough that people don't get bored with it. If JJ had a line devoted to IR I don't think it would do as well as it does when it's just done from time to time.
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Posted - Oct 8 2014 : 2:03AM
Ya know, LCF and Melvyn have been making all of these long posts arguing with eachother, but yet I'm still not sure exactly what the fuck it is they're arguing about.
^ In short he says that the market is driven by IR and the companies should push more on the subject I say it's not that way and they should be careful about how to invest their money with this economics and this shrinking market.Note that I'm not opposing to more IR , I'm actually an IR consumer half my porn contains IR porn
1-The attacks by trolls are a reason for some stars to shoot IR that is why I mentioned it , you said thay do because it is in demand , maybe with JJV or few others but not always , there are more reason to that , some stars just retain IR to boos their career having something they haven't done yet , same for anal , it's a marketing choice. I found remarkable that a top star like Dani Daniels did her first with a then unknown company , it was risky , kudos to her. We agree about the trolls they should not be allowed to do so. 2- maybe top ten but rarely , yet you say IR is in demand so they should have made way more often but they didn't they even had Mandingo at the height of his popularity after the Mandingo Massacre series (JJV again) yet they never made it, not even booking a superstar like India Summer or former Vivid Joslyn James. If there was truly a demand as high as you say shouldn't they have had better than they did? I didn't say that WCP os a powerhouse I said they produce a lot of IR content , usually vignettes , which is my favourite by the way yet they don't sell as good as JJV or Mason or Chris Streams hence it's not the content that matters it's how is made. The companies I mentioned produced tons of IR and my iR porn is actually mostly from those (and JJV or Evil Angel of course) , they didn't have the abusive and humiliating IR contents many others had especially the Candy Shop and WCP , Justin Slayer was and still is a name he produced a lot of great content when at Evil Angel and continued with his own company , yet not even an exclusive star in high demand such as Esperanza Gomez helped this much , not even having Sophia Santi right from Digital Playground. If IR was this much in demand they should have sold a lot more. Instead the only IR in demand is that produced by top companies who would top with anything they do. Those are single titles , Lex doesn't count he's a brand himself in his own right Also the IR family affair lies more on the "family affairs" than the content, such themes are the new trend in porn. Digital Sin is rather big BTW even though not as big as JJV or Evil Angel ,I have to go now, will edit later
To answer the topic of the forum in short, yes I love IR porn(mainly because I'm a black male and I'm more able to relate with it). I enjoy the contrasting skin tones and it is different to what I'm used to in reality. I think the debate that Melvyn and LCF are having is an interesting one(at least I'm enjoying it lol). The only problem I have with it is that it is looked at as a sex act. Meaning that having sex with a Black Male is the same as taking a dick in the ass or taking on multiple guys at once(Gang Bangs and Blow Bangs). However sadly I think it is the fetishism of a large black male on a tiny white female that drives the sales of companies that produce IR which is why they resort to those types of stereotypes(I don't always mind this because I can separate fantasy from reality). However there are certain levels that female performers play the stereotype up to, for example girls like Remy Lacroix and Maddy O'reilly have done plenty of IR and I never here them say "give me that black dick" or whatever. Remy even on a site like dogfart I didn't even here her say it. However to LCF's point I think the majority of porn fans don't really care about the fetish side of IR, if you're a great performer then you're a great performer. I think black stars like Lex, Mandingo, and Prince are great performers who happen to be black which is why they've been able to have longevity in their career by not saying things like "suck on my black cock". (sorry for the legnth)
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Posted - Oct 8 2014 : 8:20PM
I like Ir porn but I like amateur stuff on tubed sites better that has more of a realistic feel. I don't really care too much for the industry Ir. They don't do it right. I swear I should perform in porn or be a director.
I also find some of the best IR scenes are just homemade videos. There's an automatic appeal in knowing the couple is just doing what they want, not working off a script for a job. Can't stand the way Dogfart shoots either. I don't know if it's the trash factor, or just the technical quality. It looks so boring and unappealing.
I'm a white male. Most, but not all, of the porn I consume is BM/WF IR. Some of the reasons are:
I like the contrast and look of a big black cock penetrating a white pussy.
I don't really care about the word "black", but I love hearing a girl talk about the size her partner's cock. That seems to happen quite a bit more often in BM/WF scenes.
Most of the time when my wife comments on the attractiveness of another man, it seems like he's black.
Having been in a relationship long enough that the lust is gone there's hope in believing "something different", like a well-hung black guy, might bring some fire back into the eyes of a married white woman.
(sorry for the legnth)