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Dirk
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2 Posts
12/01
Posted - Dec 5 2001 : 4:19PM
Hi,

I'm absolutely bricking it at the moment: Being fairly new to importing Adult DVD's from the USA (To UK) I was amazed at the cheap prices at FivestarDVD.com and have bought in a total of 45 DVD's (Only came to just under £300-I could get maybe 10-15 at that price over here in UK).

they have been sent over Global priority in packages of 5, 24 and 16--I believe in seperate GP envelopes.

I just-within last 3 hours- read of the SEVERE pemalties etc, that can be had for importing Obscene materials into UK, as from october 2001.

Now, I understand that pissing and fisting etc, are the ones that they are looking out for etc, and my order *as far as I am concerened/aware* does NOT contain any of this (but who knows if just 1 scene does contain some of it?)

But, are 45 titles ( 24, 16 and 5 titles per envelope) constitute such a bulky, large, 'visible' order that HM customs/Police may call on me and arrest me?

I don't care at this moment if they confiscate them, but the prospect of being arrested is, seriously, making me feel quite suicidal. If I'd realised it wa such a serious crime, I would never have bothered.

5* have been brilliantly re-assuring and on the 2 previous occasions I ordered, delivered exactly on the 4th day after shipping. ( envelopes contained, previously, 3 and 6 titles)

Please, is there anybody here with experience of 'large' orders, and of being visited by the Authorities due to ANY number of titles?

Thanks for your help,

Dirk.

Dirk
New Member

2 Posts
12/01
Posted - Dec 5 2001 : 4:37PM
Hi,


FiveStarDVD have just advised me that they ship max 10 titles per Global priority envelope.

This is re-assuring, but am i taking it too far to think that customs may look at all 5 parcels ( I am due 45 titles) and think" Large importer, let's nail the b***rd"!

I know I sound paranoid, but can all 5 parcels be seen at the same time, and recorded by customs etc as one shipment?

sorry for wasting your times, I just regret doing such a large pervy order!

Dirk

JMO
Member

UK
104 Posts
2/01
Posted - Dec 5 2001 : 10:33PM
The rules haven't changed particularly apart from the fact that importing obscene materials is now a criminal offence (thanks, Blunkett). The bottom line is still the same - HMCE will confiscate materials that they consider obscene, that is, materials that would be banned under the Video Recordings Act 1984 and/or the good old Obscene Publications Act. In practice, this means you're okay as long as the stuff you've imported doesn't contain any of the no-no's like pissing, fisting, BDSM or the really nasty stuff. If you're caught out, you SHOULD only have the stuff confiscated and at worst you might get a visit from your local bobby to get a caution. A lot depends on the boys and girls at Mt. Pleasant Sorting Office, where the dirty deed usually takes place.

Now, and I apologise about being long-winded, I'll have to say you have made a mistake going candy-store at FiveStar (wonderful people by the way). There is so much mail going through the system that theoretically there is a good chance a single package will sneak through unmolested. However, more than one disk to a package is risky. Under an EU quota system, packages valued at less than £18 UK get through the system untouched. Packages over £18 get surcharged 3.5% import duty, then VAT on top of that plus the value of the package, so on a £20 disk, the bill would be (approximately) £4.30. I'd be more worried about having to pay ID+VAT on your packages, but then of course the attention of them having to bill you for VAT might arouse their curiosity and they might check a package or two.

Sorry to be negative about the whole thing, but I hope I've put some kind of perspective on the situation. Let us know how you get on.

Flinty
Member

uk
164 Posts
5/00
Posted - Dec 6 2001 : 12:11PM
Dirk....DO NOT WORRY!....if this was the case 16 months ago you may have had cause to be worried but obscenity laws in Britain have now been relaxed to an extent. I reckon the majority of the dvds you ordered did not contain fisting or pissing as very few adult dvds do and even if they did the chances of customs inspecting them are slim and even then at most you would get a letter stating that they will confiscate the 'said' dvds under the Obscenity law...and JMO (I dont even think in a worst case scenario the police would go knocking on anyones door unless Dirk had been repeatedly improting numerous fisting/pissing dvds) but yes the vat may be an issue as some people in this forum have found out when making large orders but that is only money and not a criminal record. So to conclude...dont stress about it!

F*

charlie
Member

uk
450 Posts
4/00
Posted - Dec 6 2001 : 5:30PM
Dirk,
That's some quantity of porn you ordered. I tend to keep all my orders to a maximum 2 disks/order limit to avoid Duty charges and to minimise my losses if the package goes missing. Retailers are under no obligation to re-ship a lost order.

As Flinty and JMO have already pointed out I wouldn't worry too much. At worst you will get a bill for extra Duty charges.

I assume all the 45 titles were different. Multiples of the same title will raise their suspicions that you intend to sell them for profit and not for personal viewing.

Keep us updated as to how things work out.

 
USAbabe
New Member

3 Posts
12/01
Posted - Dec 7 2001 : 7:08AM
One important thing for everyone to remember is that a lot of what is a no-no in the UK is also not allowed in the US. Fisting, for example, is not legal in the US porn industry and is mainly sold only by very dodgy importers of european porn. It is very hard to come by and you have to be looking for it. GS and pissing dvds are more available but as it appeals to a very specific market, it would be heavily touted on the package and in the description.

I haven't had any problems yet with the import of US or European porn, but like the other posters, I only order in small quanities, just in case.

By the way, if you haven't seen it yet, Gamelink is advertising free international shipping on orders over $60. That is SO worth it!

Gabriel Nine
Senior Member

Firecracker
1273 Posts
8/01
Posted - Dec 7 2001 : 12:48PM
Yeah, don't worry, man. The advice I had from US retailers was to order maybe 2-4 max discs per order. I fear you are more likely to get whacked with big bill for import duty rather than have anything seized these days, though with a bit of luck you'll get all or at least a lot of it without problems.

Other posters have covered it all really. If it all complies with R18 guidelines, which, though drawn up by BBFC with "legal" and police advice, are what the Customs mob are supposed to be going by to decide on what's obscene. Basically, the BBFC are passing most porn with minor cuts at most so there should be NO justification for a Customs seizure in your case, based on what you say. Just get your cheque book ready for when the postie calls and says: "There's something to pay on this one, mate..."
Best of luck - Hope you get on OK!




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