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I always have loved watching and having this kind of interaction but lately i saw buffy have sex with spike...ok girly fiction, not porn...but was really hot...two superheroes in a fight/fuck it was so amazing...would love to see that attack-each-other-with-pent-up-sexual-chemistry type scene in porn! (would give my buffy dvd a rest :)
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So can anyone make a suggestion as to what would give pirecedpixie1 time out from Buffy and Spike?

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If it's done silly, short and humiliating, nobody likes it and nobody tries it.

Maybe getting choked is pleasure for the girl, but for the viewer?

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I think you'll need someone with SM experience and someone who is willing to do it properly.
But showing that choking can be pleasurable can be dangerous and sending viewers, who try it improperly into afterlife .

If it's done silly, short and humiliating, nobody likes it and nobody tries it.

Maybe getting choked is pleasure for the girl, but for the viewer?
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And that had precisely WHAT to do with the original post?

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degradation=humiliation is for me when the girl doesn't like it, maybe she acts like she does like it but she doesn't.

Even if I see a male actor constantly saying watch your teeth and using the girl as a cock polisher, that's degradation for me and no pleasure. He dominates clearly but he humiliates her.

When I see a male actor spanking her a girl on the ass and he does it harder to impress the crew or others on the set that's degradation. Especially when the girl backs up and has a look like " who is this idiot" and he still does it one time.

Or when you have the spitting, choking and slapping in the movie just to check all fetishes on the list.
It looks improperly done, sometimes performers look bored, the female is irritated or just laughs about it to herself.
I'm referring mostly to gonzo.

My personal opinion to choking is, that it is dangerous and shouldn't be promoted. But when I see it done in gonzo, I'm happy because it's silly and therefore not attractive to imitation by couples.

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Fair point. It does concern me when I see young porn actresses mid-scene with that 'What have I got myself into' expression on their faces. I suppose what I'm interested in are scenes of hard sub/dom sex with a genuine sense that all parties involved are committed to the scene and getting off on it. I've no doubt, for example, that women like Katja Kassin and Melissa Lauren know EXACTLY what they're getting themselves into in any given scene and do it because they've decided to.

I take your point about the messages given by hardcore choking scenes, but that's a whole other debate, I think. I'm suggesting that the line between domination and degradation is to do with the attitude of the performers involved, rather than individual acts.

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I think if you find the right porn for you...and fashionistas was my first one that i found myself and bought myself...it will turn you on..girl or boy! Boy was lucky finding that gem!

Also, what i find worrying is men who actively search out scenes where the star looks uncomfortable or in pain....now that i find disturbing.

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The only one of those I've got or indeed have seen is The Ass Collector. Utterly bizarre, with a disturbing plot involving a maniac who 'collects', drugs and has sex with a variety of women, while Rocco and attractive euro-assistant attempt to track him down, Rocco developing a fascination with the guy's dark side all the while. It's basically a porno combination of mainstream movies The Cell and Kiss the Girls, with an extended sequence where Rocco gets wired up to some parapsychiatric device (or some bollocks like that) and explores said maniac's psyche.

The sex is pretty kinky, but not always as memorable as in The Fashionistas. The scene I always go back to involves Rocco and around a dozen young women all oiled up and writhing on a huge red dias. It's inventively shot and certainly floats the boat of THIS male porn-watcher, but I'm not sure that's what you're looking for...

Worth a watch for its sheer weirdness, but maybe rent it if you can... Porn is so bloody expensive!

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Anyway, I digress. The Ass Collector oil-orgy is a delicious fantasy brought to life. There's also some pretty good oily action in Rocco:Sex Trainer 7, between Manuel Ferrera and a trio of gals.

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I prefer dominant male performers, but especially if they have fine facial features, like Manuel. He's a prettyboy, but he's also all man, and I find that dichotomy exceptionally sexy.

The reverse is true for me, too. I like to see a big, tough, rugged-looking guy be all sweet and lovey and smoochy. Unfortunately, Nacho doesn't fit either bill for me. There's just something about him that rubs me the wrong way.

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Yes, Harmony's Fuck Me series is good stuff. Gazzman is a great UK director. I'd particularly recommend Lauren Phoenix's Fuck Me - fantastic energy in all the scenes, including a completely mental orgy sequence. (Roxy Jezel's Fuck Me is just out in the UK - my Christmas present to myself?) My other current favourite is Tales from the Crack (Evil Empire), a fun series of vignettes, including a scene where Belladonna actually outdoes her performance in The Fashionistas. Gotta agree with you, Piercedpixie - the woman deserves respect!!!

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To me Nacho is pure lust especially when he fucks Belladonna for some reason. Manuel...i can't complain about his technique or anything...i just dont like his face!!

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