"All knowledge ultimately means self knowledge."--Bruce Lee 97 Posts 4/07
Posted - Apr 25 2007 : 4:01AM
Put up? Just what do you want me to put up? A retired performer's name? Why? So you can prove something that isn't even important to you? Explain to me, Raoul, why it is so important to you that I name names? This thread is just idle conversation on the net--don't get so worked up about this stuff. Seriously, man--don't lose slee over this.I was referring to something else, Rauol, not that I'm a big man in Vegas (don't claim to be, don't even live there, your characterization, not mine).
My friend said she was donkey punched--well, she said she was hit in the side, then the back of the head. I remember now that I came upon the actual term "donkey punch" used at XPT, and then I realized just now she never said she was donkey punched, just punched in the back of the head.
I think the scene was cut from whatever release it was, since nobody has heard of it. My mistake was assuming that there were many videos with donkey punch scenes in them. But the guy who did it is at XPT.
Man, you are just a bit hostile--and that's not cool. Maybe you take life too seriously. Nobody is attacking you. Why so pissed off? Chill. It's a true story, and an agency owner, and one of the top producers in this industry, have heard the same story from the same former adult performer.
Rauol, I respect the fact that you've been here alot longer than I have. This story is true, as told to me. I believe it.
All she would have to do was put on her agencey page no punching, spitting, spanking choking... and that would not happen. male performers will work with the girl on it. if a director wants a girl that likes it or doesn't mind it rougher he will book a girl along those lines. Do the research see what you like and don't and arrange your work from there. That sounds to me like someone caught off guard. Unfortunatly
"All knowledge ultimately means self knowledge."--Bruce Lee 97 Posts 4/07
Posted - Apr 25 2007 : 4:21AM
Yes, she was, and she was hit by a guy she went to high-school with, but the producer didn't even know that they went to high-school together. She was humiliated and beaten by someone she went to school with, and he told her he was told to do it by the producer--to surprise her. Worse has happened in adult, not surprising at all to most.
When a performer is alone, in a room of full of men who dislike her, and who have conspired to degrade and humiliate her; and when her own agent, who has her convinced she will get in trouble if she walks out on a scene; when she finds herself all alone with a guy inside her, punching her in the head, to the encouragment of the producer... then it's possible for something like this to happen.
"All knowledge ultimately means self knowledge."--Bruce Lee 97 Posts 4/07
Posted - Apr 25 2007 : 4:26AM
Baggio, are you going to insist that Anastasia Blue, my friend from way back, kept working after Max Hardcore posted a clip of himself pissing in her mouth? He titled the clip "No More" and Luke posted the link.
She left this business seven years ago. Show me your proof that she left the business in 2004 like you claim.
Check out this link--I'm surprised Gram Ponate is asking whatever happened to her just last week.
That would have to be a terrible agent. My agent knows what is appropriate for me and sticks to that. it would be bad business for the producer to mess with a girl like that. Shame on him. that poor girl. I do not blame her. In that situation. i know to stop and call my agent and let him handle the situation. ONLY if i have stated my does and don'ts on the site for the producers to see. Otherwise that would fall back on me. So again girls must communicate well with their agent and remind their talent.
"All knowledge ultimately means self knowledge."--Bruce Lee 97 Posts 4/07
Posted - Apr 25 2007 : 5:11AM
Yes, ooh-thats-hot, her agent was only interested in making money for himself--he only has 5 or 6 clients. I won't post his name here out in the open but if you are interested you can email me at fundo111@yahoo.com and I'll give you his name. Take care.
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro 306 Posts 2/07
Posted - Apr 25 2007 : 5:35AM
Hostile? Not in the least. But when my bullshit detector goes off, I tend to be direct. You, on the other hand, have been evasive throughout this thread. I don't lose sleep over it; it's just something amusing to while away they hours through my terrible insomnia. Ahh Fundo, I won't fuck with you anymore. It's obvious you're full of shit and struggling to make things up as you go along. Next time, have your story straight before you post. Take care.
fundo I don't mind your withholding names.She didn't have to work with that agent, and she could have asked who the male talent would be before agreeing to the scene.
Don't know if the original post is true or not,but I was curious if something like that did happen could the actress file assault charges against the performer or director.I think Max has been in court for something where the actress said he got her drunk or gave her drugs so she could not legally consent.I don't know if it was a civil or criminal suit.I don't find it hard to believe that some of the girls have no idea of what they are getting into when they show up to some sets.Getting choked or spit on or slapped around if you are not told it's going to happen could be pretty scary for anyone.I know all the performers sign a release but does it cover everything that happens on set.
Look. I'm sure these things do happen in porn. Bad stuff happens everywhere...in virtually all environments.
I don't doubt that you've been told things which may or may not be true. Having seen a couple of the other threads, I think you're taking things way too seriously and personally. And frankly, you seem to be trying to fight other people's battles for them.
It's never a good idea to go rushing into a new forum and start taking everything you read personally. I don't know what other forums you've been on (and am not really familiar with the other porn forums) but there isn't a lot of drama on ADT and I think most of the posters here (I hope they don't mind me saying so) like it that way.
I find ADT a relaxing place to post because it's not filled with gossip, rumors and perpetual bickering over who said what or who did what and who was right and who was wrong. I've seen that kind of stuff on other forums and from the outside looking in, it's so childish and unflattering.
I'm always willing to hear anyone out but a little restraint and civility goes a long way.
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Posted - Apr 26 2007 : 4:24AM
Hmmm... what could cause cause this change of heart in just thirteen hours? Realizing your accounts (plural) were banned? I was wrong above. I hadn't seen the Jules thread. I know for a fact you were lurking over at XPT during the intervening time, only to realize you were banned. Hatred of Jules? Fear of Tony Malice knowing your IP? Repeated attempts at pretending you're an industry insider? Fights with Mods? You are the late Darth/Amped of XPT. Oh, yeah. I've got your number. Well, welcome, Darth. This should prove amusing.
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Posted - Apr 26 2007 : 4:55AM
He makes plenty of mention of it on his site, like his (unsuccessful) attempt at humor about being sodomized by wallabies and kangaroos. I think he's gotten his medication levels properly balanced now, though.
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Posted - Apr 28 2007 : 4:20PM
OOPS, I POSTED TWICE
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Posted - Apr 28 2007 : 4:22PM
Sounds like another crusader for the injustice that was done to Alex Devine. Yawn.
I have a hard time believing that the details such a movie where someone is punched in the back of the head, weren't discussed. Hate to say it, but it sounds to me like you're believing whatever sob stories your friends are telling you. Don't be so naive to believe that nonsense.
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Posted - Apr 28 2007 : 4:45PM
Three things: 1) Porn Rule #1 2) They have stage names for a reason 3) If the scene was filmed, produced & released, your conceiling this issue is utterly retarded. Playing hard-to-get is very childish, considering you initiated this thread.
While I haven't seen the genre title in question, IAFD says there are 5 ladies in JM's Donkey Punch. Assuming that Alex Devine wasn't the ONLY performer who was subject to the donkey punch, there aren't any male performers in this title that would fit the age bracket mentioned.
"All knowledge ultimately means self knowledge."--Bruce Lee 97 Posts 4/07
Posted - Apr 28 2007 : 5:51PM
I never heard of Darth/Amped until I looked them up after reading your post. I have no problem with the director you mentioned either--my response to his emails was satisfactory--we have settled matters. He is one of the best directors there is! Re: The donkey punch -- the scene may have been edited out of the final cut. I could name the director/producer; and the agent who booked the scene; but based upon the moderator's caution to me, I see no reason to mention names now, as the director would just come out swinging, and as I've learned, this board's purpose is not met by such inflammatory posts.
"All knowledge ultimately means self knowledge."--Bruce Lee 97 Posts 4/07
Posted - Apr 28 2007 : 6:29PM
Skronker, your 15000 posts here give you the credibility at this board to proclaim "not credible" so I yield to you. True story, though. Perhaps the moderators should consider locking this thread, since it's played out.
Number of posts has no relation to credibility. It's the contents of the posts that count. You might have had an easier time if you hadn't started the thread without being able to verify it. As it stands now, it's only rumor.
"All knowledge ultimately means self knowledge."--Bruce Lee 97 Posts 4/07
Posted - Apr 28 2007 : 8:40PM
I agree and since I wasn't there it's just me trusting the source. I apologize for the thread--it was a newbie mistake posting it. I didn't know donkey punching had been discussed before and that is my fault for not checking the archives.
Don't get me wrong. I'm sure it happens, it's just your example is rumor. As with anything, unless you can provide verifable facts, people here will treat it as such.
No, I'm not trying to bash you ... I'm just saying that posters hauling up hearsay on topics like this are a tradition that has a really poor track record for accuracy, and unless you're willing to be more forthcoming with details, it's meaningless ... is all. In fact, in most cases, it's someone trying to slyly promote the video in question or generate chatter related to "controversial" fare ... Max, JM, Meatholes, etc.
I certainly have enough "war stories" of my own to relate from talent, but I'm not going to because if they wanted that info to be known they would post it themselves.