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petemurphy
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226 Posts
8/01
Posted - Dec 2 2003 : 12:13AM
I bid on DVDs at ebay from time to time, and I'm frequently amazed at the prices some people are willing to pay. Here's the latest example that caught my attention:

ebay auction for 5 guy Cream Pie #5

It's bad enough when they bid past the prices listed in the ADT price search, but apparently there were at least two bidders who lost all touch with reality!

Someone needs to tell these poor schmoes about ADT !

I've never sold an adult DVD on ebay, but I'd list my whole collection if I could get those guys to bid.


-- For those of you who cannot access the link, the final bid price was $46 plus $3 shipping!
Four different bidders went past the lowest price on the ADT price search.

"It's frustrating when you know all the answers, but nobody bothers to ask you the questions." -- Pete Murphy

Asmodeus
Lord of Lust

az-mo-day-us
6338 Posts
10/01
Posted - Dec 2 2003 : 12:58AM
Pete, this sort of reminds me of a time not too long ago when I was passing by Phoenix AZ and decided to check out some porn shops and was flabbergasted to see them selling adult DVD's for $49.95! Needless to say, I didn't buy anything from them but it did make me thank my lucky stars I'm a member of ADT and all the benefits it entails.
barrybrn
Senior Member

1568 Posts
9/03
Posted - Dec 2 2003 : 1:08AM
About a year ago or so I sold like 100 or so adult DVDs on Ebay. The person that won way over paid for it. He got in a bidding war with another member. Silly but I loved it. Nice to be on the receiving end...lol. In the last 15min. of the sale the price went up like $200. I don't remember the exact figures but the guy ended up paying close to retail for used DVDs.
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6409 Posts
11/99
Posted - Dec 2 2003 : 11:47AM
When we first launched the price search I sold a few DVDs on ebay for the advertising. I had links to the title in our price search and people still bid way more money than they could have bought it for new. I felt guilty so I threw in some freebies for the winners. Crazy hunh. Just like if you throw a bunch of stuff in a bin people assume they're getting a deal.
DenverDon
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Firmly Embedded in Depravity
5914 Posts
7/02
Posted - Dec 2 2003 : 1:34PM
Ahh ... the joys and benefits of advertising.

What did Barnum & Bailey say? "A sucker is born every minute"?

(at least I think it was B&B)

Edited to echo Asmodeus:

I use a brick and mortar shop for rentals. They rent, and they sell porn - but I never buy porn from them because it is consistently 10-15 dollars more than I can buy online.

Edited by - DenverDon on 12/2/2003 1:37:34 PM

 
aybesea
Senior Member

Caroline Cage - Hungarian Hottie!
1485 Posts
5/02
Posted - Dec 2 2003 : 1:43PM
Yow... I'll sell any disc from my collection for that price! Anyone wanna take me up on it???
petemurphy
Member

226 Posts
8/01
Posted - Dec 2 2003 : 4:02PM
The price search feature here at ADT is a most wonderful tool. A big THANK YOU to Steph and Drew for all the great tools and info at this site.

Thanks to ADT 's Kickbacks and coupons and sale alerts, I've never paid over $20 for a DVD. I see lot's of dvds sell for $25 to $30 on eBay, and that's before the S&H fees.

I rarely get to go to a brick and mortar retail store, but I was in one in Albuquerque last week, and I was dumbfounded to see Leisure Time discs for $19.95, and that was their super sale price.
The owner of that store had to be making a killing (which I'm not opposed to, since I'm a big fan of capitalism).
It was a very nice, clean store. And there were women in there! Customers and a clerk.

I'm glad there are brick and mortar retailers, but I'm also glad I don't have to buy there.

skronker
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Scopophiliac
9780 Posts
9/02
Posted - Dec 2 2003 : 5:11PM
IS there a trick to selling porn on eBay? I thought they censored it.
Asmodeus
Lord of Lust

az-mo-day-us
6338 Posts
10/01
Posted - Dec 2 2003 : 5:43PM
Pete, I assume your talking about the Pussycat Video stores on Central Ave. right? I've visited these shops many times and they really are clean and have an inviting atmosphere. And like you said, it is nice to see a few females browzing all the latest hardcore porn titles once in a while...hehe
ziniaraya
Member

London
194 Posts
4/03
Posted - Dec 2 2003 : 6:26PM
I am always amazed by some folks' failure to carry out any kind of price research before buying stuff, but paying this much over the odds is unnecessarily stupid.

I'm also amazed how easy it is to get stung even if you're careful. Just recently I had to replace some stuff I borrowed and wrecked (oops) and the price was £130. One store had a reduction to £88 which on the face of it was an excellent price. A few weeks later (I know, I just don't get round to doing stuff very quickly), I rung up to order them in and the price was back up. I said he better speak to the manager and see what he would come up with. Anyhoo, on my way out to the same store several days later I called in a different one on the way and saw the same thing for £66 and this time I did get it on the spot.

Z.

DreamWeaver
Member

288 Posts
10/02
Posted - Dec 3 2003 : 3:44AM
Damn, there sure is a lot of useless crap selling on ebay. What's wrong with people? I bet I could take a picture of my dirty underwear and sell it for $20.00.

Any takers?

petemurphy
Member

226 Posts
8/01
Posted - Dec 3 2003 : 6:45PM
No thanks, Dream Weaver I've got my own underwear to look at. That reminds me, I gotta go do laundry.

Asmodeus: I was in the Video Maxxx store at 810 Comanche Rd NE. I'll have to remember to check out that Pussycat joint when I go back next year.

barrybn: You sold 100 adult dvds all in one auction?

I've not sold any adult DVDs on eBay yet, but I'm gonna have to give it a try as my porn closet is about to overflow.

aybesea
Senior Member

Caroline Cage - Hungarian Hottie!
1485 Posts
5/02
Posted - Dec 3 2003 : 7:02PM
Hey Steph... isn't there a box of Debutante DVDs around here somewhere???
madara
Member

33 Posts
10/01
Posted - Dec 4 2003 : 12:41AM
Well if its any consolation things are definitely not as they appear on Ebay. Last 2 weeks alone I had 3 people tell me next day they could not pay for item they won, one paypal reversal scamming me out of 85 bucks and 4 no replys yet. Just because they bid and win does not mean actually paying, could even be auctioners friend jacking up prices. Sigh, a problem I love to have instead. Trying get credit on all my auctions with that new ebay system is pain in butt.
barrybrn
Senior Member

1568 Posts
9/03
Posted - Dec 4 2003 : 9:44AM
Yeah! I sold them all in one auction. The reason is I didn't want mail them out to different people. I didn't want it to be too much of a hassle. Plus I think the price went so high because people were just getting so excited about getting 100s DVD at one time. Geez, guy you can only masturbate so much...lol. Skronker, You can sell porn DVDs on Ebay. Many, many, many people do. You need to read their rules first. They do have words you are not allowed to use in your sale. Plus no graphic nudity. Anyways, hope this helps.
 
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Posted - Dec 4 2003 : 1:06PM
i just shipped every last one to you ;)
ricorocco
Member

212 Posts
4/03
Posted - Dec 4 2003 : 6:15PM
What heading do you use for people to know it's porn? I was also hesitant in selling porn on ebay because of their rules and I tried doing searches for porn on ebay and they are hard to find. Any more advice/hints would be appreciated.
DreamWeaver
Member

288 Posts
10/02
Posted - Dec 4 2003 : 6:44PM
ricorocco,

Porn on ebay can be found in the following directory:
All Categories > Everything Else > Mature Audiences > DVDs

The heading that you can use is pretty flexible as long as you don't use words such as "anal" "pussy" "fucking" etc. A heading labelled "Adult DVD" will work, or titles that are not crude such as "Rocco's Initiations".

I've only sold a couple of titles on ebay, and I don't much care for it. There's just so much garbage posted on the board and your sale item can easily get lost in the mix. There's also the obvious fees for placing the ad and the risk of the bidders flaking out on you when it comes to paying for the sale.

I'll stick to ADT for my trades.

ricorocco
Member

212 Posts
4/03
Posted - Dec 4 2003 : 11:51PM
True enough Dreamweaver. I've been successful in selling alot of games and regular dvd's but wasn't sure if I wanted to start selling adult as well.

Let me know your inventory (I'm from Canada as well so maybe we can trade sometime if the titles are right). I'm posting new titles on ADT this weekend if you're interested.

M.B.
Senior Member

1679 Posts
2/01
Posted - Dec 5 2003 : 2:28PM
Is it possible to sell adult dvd's on ebay without putting them in the MATURE section? I'm up in Canada and they won't let us sell porn on ebay through the mature esction (I don't think), and I don't want to get kicked off for selling it through the regular ebay section. Anyone have any tips?
ricorocco
Member

212 Posts
4/03
Posted - Dec 5 2003 : 2:54PM
I think you're better off selling it her on ADT. I've browsed the U.S. ebay site under the mature section and it really is congested with alot of no-title dvd porn, so ebay buyers have a hell of a time finding the titles they are looking for under a normal browsing. When I was browsing under this section I got frustrated in looking for any titles I wanted to buy (if there was any) and I think most buyers do as well.

Beaver
Member

137 Posts
11/01
Posted - Dec 16 2003 : 4:33PM
There are several possible explanations for people overpaying bigtime on ebay.

1) Bidding wars often times become personal and it's not so much the item they want rather than NOT LOSING the auction. There is a lot of psychology that plays into this (I read into it).

2) You have under age people who can buy things on ebay where they can't on a regular website (or store obviously). Obviously if you are a kid with limited options, money becomes less of an issue to get something they cannot attain otherwise.

3) Many people are not comfortable submitting credit card info to an adult DVD site (either for fear of scandle or simply being sent junk email or mail), but feel a global and reputable site such as Ebay is OK. So this becomes their only source for attaining these items, and if something they really want comes up, they will get it at any cost.

4) Combined with number 3 above, people who live in remote locations without access to stores will overpay for something that is difficult for them to get.

These are just a few factors at play. And also keep in mind when you sell on Ebay, millions of people could be viewing your item so who knows whatever reasons there might be.

This is why Ebay is and will continue to be so successful. Simply a brilliant concept...

petemurphy
Member

226 Posts
8/01
Posted - Dec 17 2003 : 1:19AM
I'm sorry to hear that some of our ADT members have been victims of deadbeat bidders.

I checked the "5 Guy" auction and the seller left positive feedback for the winning bidder, so he must have gotten paid.

Beaver, I think you've hit the nail on the head, especially with #3.

GreenLantern1973
Member

SE Massachusetts
69 Posts
10/03
Posted - Dec 17 2003 : 4:39PM
If there's a title that I really want, I'll bid to win it & not to save money because that title may be harder to find. For example, I paid around $30 for 2 RSVP videos on VHS with just regular white sleeves. That may be higher than ADT guide but it was cheaper than buying direct from Promotions Video.


Besides, not everyone knows about the ADT guide. You guys need to do some PR for yourselves instead of waiting for people to find you.

PR Representative for Leeanna Heart.

GreenLantern1973
Member

SE Massachusetts
69 Posts
10/03
Posted - Dec 17 2003 : 4:52PM
Another tip to selling on eBay: List the actresses in the movie. I usually search that way instead of by title so anyone looking for sommething by Jenna Jameson will find her titles if you post that info in the listing where they wouldn't find it otherwise.
 
Drew Black
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8009 Posts
9/99
Posted - Dec 17 2003 : 4:55PM
We wouldn't be of any help on a VHS, the ADT guide only lists DVDs. As for waiting for people to find us, we're very patient. We'll keep waiting. Praying helps too sometimes.


GreenLantern1973
Member

SE Massachusetts
69 Posts
10/03
Posted - Dec 17 2003 : 5:08PM
Email the following people to see which one's will do write-ups &/or PR for your site:

DonBenn&aol.com -- www.asmdaily.com
meangeneross&aol.com -- www.adultfyi.com
mike&adultstarsnews.com-- www.adultstarsnews.com
faynerpornbiz&hotmail.com -- www.lukeford.com
kevin&smutdrs.com -- www.smutdrs.com (does website reviews)
sbanan&thevine.net -- www.libertynetwork.tv

See how helpful I am to you guys and Bill thinks I'm just a shill!

Edited by - GreenLantern1973 on 12/17/2003 5:08:48 PM

Edited by - GreenLantern1973 on 12/17/2003 5:34:52 PM

MLyons
Senior Member

1617 Posts
8/02
Posted - Dec 17 2003 : 6:05PM
For what it's worth, I'm with Bill on this one... :)

Mike L.


Edited by - MLyons on 12/17/2003 6:23:44 PM

GreenLantern1973
Member

SE Massachusetts
69 Posts
10/03
Posted - Dec 17 2003 : 6:10PM
Well, Mike, feel free to use those email addresses to get your website some publicity because I sure haven't heard of it.
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11/99
Posted - Dec 17 2003 : 6:11PM
GreenLantern,

Thanks, but we're familiar with the various PR outlets. PR is not the only way for people to become aware of a website. In some cases "PR" can backfire. In the case of actual PR professionals it costs money.

Thank you for derailing another thread.

Edited by - Steph on 12/17/2003 6:14:08 PM

GreenLantern1973
Member

SE Massachusetts
69 Posts
10/03
Posted - Dec 17 2003 : 6:16PM
Well, Steph, if your goal as Admin is to make this the 1st place people go to when shopping for DVD's, then you need to increase awareness of your site instead of just waiting for people to find you from a search engine. Yesterday, I posted the link to the coupon page in my Yahoo group so you should get some more traffic that way as well.
MLyons
Senior Member

1617 Posts
8/02
Posted - Dec 17 2003 : 6:22PM
Like Drew said--I'll keep waiting. My site is just a fun little thing for the people at ADT and for those who read my reviews. There's no money in it, and I don't care about traffic in the slightest. I always wonder why it is in the online adult community you seem to be less of a person if you don't get 8 zillion hits a day on your website?

Mike L.

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6409 Posts
11/99
Posted - Dec 17 2003 : 6:26PM
mike, i think it's more that you have to talk about the tons of traffic you get and how succesful you are. reality is irrelevant.
GreenLantern1973
Member

SE Massachusetts
69 Posts
10/03
Posted - Dec 17 2003 : 6:26PM
From what I understand, it takes money to sustain a website (computers, servers, ISP's, etc.) Affiliate traffic & cross traffic help bring in people who will earn you money (either buying product or from a referral traffic agreement). See my point now?

If you want to stay small & cozy, that's fine. Remember though that small & cozy doesn't pay the bills.

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11/99
Posted - Dec 17 2003 : 6:34PM
thanks for the advice. we host reviewers sites for free. greenlantern, maybe you should take some time to familiarize yourself with adt.

should have left this thread locked since it has gone nowhere.

 
Bill All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

5334 Posts
6/00
Posted - Dec 17 2003 : 8:12PM
The traffic on those sites combined doesn't equal the average traffic at ADT.

ADT is currently ranked 3,595 of all websites on the net based on traffic (by Alexa). For comparison AVN is ranked 5,232 and iafd is ranked 12,952. Obviously somebody has heard of the site without any silly self promotion.

BTW, the ranks of the sites that you think can actually help ADT are:
www.asmdaily.com 341,480
www.adultfyi.com 9,871
www.adultstarsnews.com 354,233
www.lukeford.com 9,100
www.smutdrs.com 13,534
www.libertynetwork.tv too little traffic to be ranked.

I think we can do without the "mass" exposure that these hugely popular websites can provide us.

If these are the places that you are trying to promote Leanna Heart, it's no wonder her career is where it is right now.

Edited by - Bill on 12/17/2003 8:13:27 PM

Edited by - Bill on 12/17/2003 8:14:34 PM

Saki
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2087 Posts
11/99
Posted - Dec 17 2003 : 8:16PM
Not that traffic statistics mean much but:

Alexa Rankings...
adultdvdtalk.com: 3,595
avn.com: 5,232
lukeford.com: 9,100
iafd.com: 12,952
rame.net: 45,267
sakivision.com: 315,378
sexyleanna.com: 557,717
leeannaheart.net: 2,725,379

Whoops, I see Bill beat me to the punch...

- Saki [faqs]

Edited by - saki on 12/17/2003 8:20:08 PM




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