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CrissStrokesLexRoccoNorth
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Posted - Dec 12 2014 : 4:40AM
Just seems like Elegant Angel is now even more dead than ever. They haven't had an update to the site in over 2 months now. I don't see any new DVD's in the new releases section. Just seems like their trying to cash in on their back catalog and refuse to deliver anything new. Even their new lineup of directors have moved on to other companies.
MorganKane
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Posted - Dec 12 2014 : 10:26AM
Elegant Angel done? Until proven wrong I'm gonna go with yes. I'd love to be horribly wrong tho.
Even if they aren't done I doubt they'll be back to where they were before shit hit the fan.
Mister Fahrenheit All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Dec 12 2014 : 10:53AM
I've never gotten the full story about what happened. I know Patrick Collins sold it because he was going through a nasty divorce. The new owners, whoever they are, didn't get along with Mason and William H.? So they left along with most of the other Elegant directors. New directors were brought on, but now it seems they mostly just release compilations. Anything wrong with that sketchy account? Does someone have a link to an article that explains things more comprehensively?
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Posted - Dec 12 2014 : 11:27AM
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Last I saw, just when it looked like Patrick Collins had a deal to sell the company, he backed out of the deal because the divorce case was still unsettled. This is the last article I've seen regarding Elegant Angel's current predicament: Elegant Angel Amicably Parts Ways with Kennedy, Guzman.
Quite frankly, it doesn't matter to me whether or not Elegant makes a comeback. I mean, what got me into them in the first place was the work of Mason, and now that she's got her own studio (HardX) and is producing more movies than ever before, what happens to Elegant just doesn't seem important to me. (Oh by the way, not only does HardX have Mason, but they also have another Elegant alum, William H., now.)
Mister Fahrenheit All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Dec 12 2014 : 11:44AM
Thanks for the link. And I totally agree: Mason and William H. were Elegant Angel. They produced some quality product after those two left (Jada Steven's scene in Up That White Ass 4 was a particular stand-out), but things were never the same again.
 
NotMyRealName
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Posted - Dec 12 2014 : 8:51PM
It's really too bad. Their back catalog is so good though I'd still join the site to get those movies. There's a lot of stuff there that just doesn't exist anywhere else like the Buttwoman series with Jada, Kelly Divine, Brianna Love.
Van Hinten
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Posted - Dec 12 2014 : 8:56PM
Yep totally agree with Mister Fahrenheit. Mason and William H. were Elegant Angel. And now it's HardX & EroticaX. Elegant Angel is dead.
shenmue
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Posted - Dec 12 2014 : 10:35PM
You can get those scenes on sites like Videobox, Fyretv etc.
Edited by - shenmue on 12/12/2014 10:36:12 PM
NotMyRealName
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Posted - Dec 12 2014 : 11:27PM
What I meant to say was that EA is still the only company that has those types of titles. You are right that they are available through other places though. I remember the showcases too. I'm glad Mason is continuing that trend those were some good flicks.
aclayfan All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Dec 13 2014 : 12:05PM
Check out Archangel studio, it's new and their boxcovers look just like those at Elegant. You will never know the difference.
pat362
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Posted - Dec 13 2014 : 12:51PM
^No offense but I have seen plenty of amazing box covers in my life that turned out to be the only good thing about the movie. I'm not saying that the archangel movies are going to be bad but beautiful box covers mean fuck all when it comes to porn. In fact it could be argued that the more beautiful the cover. The less likely the actual content will be as good.
LCF All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Dec 13 2014 : 1:13PM
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Check out the Booty Movie , then we can talk , the director is Mimefreak (a Pretty Petite and a Crazy Milfs at EA among the others) who also worked and still works with Elegant , but has been extremely busy building up this new company which already signed Jada Stevens as contract star , she stars in the Booty Movie and will also be showcased in the Booty Queen.
They lost some others directors though LT is one , I liked his Momma's series for example , not sure about Grazer/Mick Blue status right now
aclayfan All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Dec 13 2014 : 3:02PM
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No offense taken. Since the directors that made Elegant a quality studio are long gone, all that is left is the brand. Saw a similar look at Archangel and thought it was worth a visit for the guy who started this thread. I choose my porn by the performer for the most part.
JC_Denton
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Posted - Dec 13 2014 : 7:39PM
I'd like to give honorable mentions to Thomas Zupko (where's that guy these days?), who directed the first six installments of Big Wet Asses, and Gil Bendazon, who helmed the Big Wet Brazilian Asses line.
But yeah, even if Elegant Angel's days are numbered Wet Asses (directed by William H. for Jules Jordan Productions) and Big Anal Asses (directed by Mason for Hard X) are pretty much spiritual successors to the Big Wet Asses brand. Even though Wet Asses eschews the "Big"-part.
pat362
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Posted - Dec 13 2014 : 9:12PM
Let's talk about that Jada signing. I am a fan of Jada. I think she has put out some amazing movies since she started in porn 6 years ago but frankly I don't see the point in signing a six year veteran to any kind of contract unless it involves her doing something she has never done before. This is clearly not the case with Jada has she has pretty much everything legal in porn. She has 242 titles to her name on IAFD. 80 of those are anal, 13 are dp's and she has done 59 interracial movies. She is a prolific performer who has nothing to prove but in return also has nothing new to offer. If you are a newbie just starting in porn and you don't know who to watch for than maybe you will want to check a Jada movie produced by Archangel but that's about it. I have no ill will toward Archangel and I'm glad someone is starting a new studio in these dark times but I haven't seen or heard anything that makes me think they are producing anything I care to watch.
 
mgavin
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Posted - Dec 13 2014 : 9:36PM
I was huge into Elegant Angel since late 2007. They put out the best showcase and series like Big Wet Asses, Gangbanged, Massive Facials, Performers of The Year and New Starlets of the Year. Just in General they were the best company with the best directors mason, william h, l.t. and etc. Now with Mason and William H working together at Hard X and Erotica X is another home run.
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ge55
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Posted - Dec 13 2014 : 10:55PM
I wanna get a elegant angel membership to see the good scenes they had back then
LCF All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Dec 14 2014 : 4:25AM
She's been requested by the fans over and over, she's requested on blacked thread even though she already performed with them, she's been requested on forums for sites (she's the last update for Monster of Cock for example) , she was repeatedly requested for a buttwoman issue at EA.
If a star gets this high demand you still see no point in signing her? This even forced those with scenes with her still sitting in their drawers to release then otherwise they would have been clearly exposed as old or very old material
also in The Booty Movie is a scene with Kendra Lust that I really , really recommend , the way she was into that is not commonly seen in porn , if she just played a role , well this would make it even greater then
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Posted - Dec 14 2014 : 7:29AM
I have a pretty big locker turned sidewards with five spaces behind my bed. This is one of the places for my DVDs. Four of them rooms are filled and one of the spaces contain only DVD from Elegant Angel. In fact there is not place for any more there now. Whereas one of the room holds both Anabolic and Diabolic, and another is jammed up with Combat Zone. The last not mentioned has Third Degree and Zero Tolerance. Those companies has more places to creep into. So these are up for extension. But for Elegant Angel it's a perfect moment for me to call it a day. I'm awaiting a shipment with one more though. Think it's time to put two pieces out of the same series in one then, with papercovers stuffed onto each other.
By the way Combat Zone had two new releases coming over the other day; Look Dad I'm in Porn and last volume of Big Dick Teen Junkies, both great, but also with severe technical issues. In the BTS segment tin one of those he DVD player just made a boff! noise and stopped the playing like it had a stroke or something. All my old Combat Zone stuff never acted this way. Pretty scary industrial development this.
pat362
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Posted - Dec 14 2014 : 11:38AM
I can't speak as to her popularity with some fans or her high demand on some sites because I honestly don't know if there are actual numbers to prove those statements but lets say for argument sake that she is. I still maintain that signing a six year veteran with such a prolific porn career makes absolutely no business sense since your typical contract usually involves paying a performer a certain amount of money to either only shoot for that studio or only shoot certain types of scenes for that studio. I have already established that Jada has shot every type of scene multiple times so it's no longer possible for a studio to have any kind of exclusive scene from her. Now if as you state Jada is still super popular and in high demand than she would have to ask for a sizeable amount of money to sign a contract where she only appears in one studios movies as she would lose income from not shooting with the other studios.
Now if you can give me some arguments that show that signing Jada to a contract is a great business decision than I welcome your post.
LCF All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Dec 14 2014 : 1:06PM
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Mimefreak himself here stated he booked Jada because the fans requested her , and after he shot her they kept requesting her over and over, maybe for the general public is what you say it is, but based on his potential customers requests it might be a good move , plus she's also request for site with content similar to his although limited to IR to which MF is not .
Mister Fahrenheit All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Dec 14 2014 : 3:49PM
I'm a huge Jada Stevens fan. I was a liitle bit crestfallen by the news that she was signing an exclusive contract with ArchAngel because it meant there would be no new scenes forthcoming from companies like HardX or JJV. That being said, ArchAngel locked up my business for the rest of the year with that move and judging by her popularity on this forum I'm not alone. She has great tits, a pretty face, a great body, is nasty as all get out, and of course, her legendary ass. A Jada scene made by a competent director is appointment viewing for me. When a performer is that big of a draw it makes sense for a studio to sign them to an exclusive contract. Look at Asa Akira and Wicked. Asa has done every type of scene under the sun and arguably her new material for Wicked will be tamer than her gonzo stuff. But Asa has legions of fans who will follow her anywhere so it made sense for Wicked to sign her. Same applies for Jada.
MimeFreak
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Posted - Dec 16 2014 : 3:21AM
I agree with you. Some of the movies that look good can't carry the same weight. However I'm not saying that I'm great but I think my product can hold it's own. TheMimeFreak.com go check out my trailers there. You can be the judge.
MimeFreak
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Posted - Dec 16 2014 : 3:27AM
That's my dude
MimeFreak
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Posted - Dec 16 2014 : 3:32AM
That's your personal opinion. For me to give you inside information would be a waste. We signed her because it was something that she wanted to do. There goes so much into signing a girl but we have a plan for her and I'm sure you will be interested in what we will bring to the table. There aren't enough people who actually care to help a chick build her brand. That's our goal. So please think outside the box before you jump to conclusions. If you are a true fan of Jada you will support her no matter what. But since you are confused about what we are planning to do I will kick my feet up and watch what you will have to say in 2016...and I mean 2016...So you can continue to support the studios that you are a true fan of but one thing about us is we are more then just a new studio...the proof is coming to you soon.
ps: there's something missing from this industry and we will try to bring something new to the table instead of being the same ol thing...it's bigger then just dvd's and sex..its something you won't see but the performers will benefit from.
 
MimeFreak
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Posted - Dec 16 2014 : 3:34AM
GREAT...someone understand. Lol
MimeFreak
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Posted - Dec 16 2014 : 3:39AM
I'm huge on requesting fans to recommend girls. Jada is at the top of the list every time. So why would we not try to cater to her and make her a part of something new. It's been well documented that most directors were always 50/50 on booking Jada. Once they heard of the contract most of the directors rushed to shoot her because of how popular she is. Jada is a professional and does what's required to get the job done. And truth be told she's very underrated. The only thing she's missing is a feature presence to make her a real competitor for POTY
But all in all...as long as the fans want to see her we will give them what they want and there will be fan request coming soon. There's no other company that cater to the fans like we do. Name a director the responds to almost all the fans here on ADT, Twitter and TheMimeFreak.com Most directors watch and read but done feel the need to speak to you. How does that make you feel?
MimeFreak
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Posted - Dec 16 2014 : 3:41AM
Up That White Ass 4 wasn't Mason or William H...That was my scene I shot. Thanx for the love...That scene was amazing. The whole movie was fun to make and it was the stand out movie for me.
MimeFreak
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Posted - Dec 16 2014 : 3:49AM
It hurts my heart to reveal that Elegant Angel is going to be closing it's doors. With me being a rookies director to the company I'm glad that I was apart of the brand over there. I'm not happy about how everything went down but I feel everything happens for a reason. There's more to the story that the fans will never know but I will not speak upon it for the respect that I have for so many people there. Elegant will forever be a part of my heart and will go down as one of the best companies to display what real porn was...
Some great careers were made over there and once again I have Mick Blue to thank for making a apart of what he had going which eventually paved a way for myself to do something of my own there. There will never be another company like it. If you guys saw how much life was in that office and how many people were dedicated to the craft you would be amazed. I enjoyed a lot of great moments there at the tail end but it will go down as some of the best times I've had in a long while.
Who knows..,someone will probably try to bring something back but the heart and soul of Elegant Angel is gone. Arch Angel is not owned by Elegant Angel and Patrick Collins is not affiliated with this company. But for the record we have some of the people that made Elegant important join us at AA...when one door closes another opens. Elegant Angel is my family and I will forever love the guys that made that company flow....!
Mister Fahrenheit All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Dec 16 2014 : 2:13PM
Oh yeah, I know man. I was saying that was one of the best things Elegant did after Mason and William H. left. Big fan of that scene and movie. I know some people think the Jada/Prince pairing is played out, but when two performers have such great chemistry together I never get tired of watching them do new scenes together. Kinda like how Kristina Rose and Manuel did so many scenes together. They always brought the intensity so it didn't matter if I had seen them together before. Newness is nice, but heat will always trump everything for me.
Sad to hear Elegant is closing its doors, but everyone who made the company what it was has moved on to greener pastures. Looking forward to what you cook up with Remy and Jada.
MimeFreak
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Posted - Dec 18 2014 : 2:36AM
Mason and William are a tag team again over at HardX...I wish them well and I know they will continue to do what they are known for. Elegant is still loved and I hope there will be some light to come and production gets back up some way some how for the hardcore EA fans.
giveittome
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Posted - Dec 24 2014 : 11:10PM
^Hey, Mime...
Does that mean William has parted ways with Jules ?
I thought he made some great stuff while he was there.
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Denbedste
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Posted - Dec 25 2014 : 2:42PM
yeah what is happening with elegant angel they haven't updated their official site in months and Anal Freaks 2 is not out for HD on their website either
Anyone know whats going on ?
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jbob79
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Posted - Dec 25 2014 : 3:38PM
Any news on when their site will be up so videos are available in formats other than DVD/BluRay?
Denbedste
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Posted - Dec 25 2014 : 3:42PM
So there a HD version of Anal Freaks 2 will never show up on their website or anywhere?
Denbedste
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what is their website address ?
jbob79
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Posted - Dec 25 2014 : 10:06PM
archangel.xxx / archangelvideo.com
giveittome
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Posted - Dec 25 2014 : 10:55PM
^Pringles -
Thank you for providing that link - it all makes sense now.
Mime - Best of to you - and William in 2015 - and I hope ArchAngel flourishes.
MimeFreak
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Posted - Jan 10 2015 : 12:49AM
I appreciate it sir. Thank You
MimeFreak
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Posted - Jan 10 2015 : 12:50AM
So there's light at the end of the tunnel for all you Elegant Angel fans. I guess I spoke too soon. You might see more titles from the company. Stay tuned...
pringles All-Star Supporter
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giveittome
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Posted - Jan 14 2015 : 12:00AM
^Thanks for that recent link, Pringles...
That is really excellent news for Elegant Angel fans. Look forward to watching this evolve.
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Posted - Jan 14 2015 : 12:23AM
Really though, they're taking credit for Brianna Love's ascendency?
Arditti
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Posted - Jan 14 2015 : 12:43AM
Now that Elegant is under Exquisite's wing, will there be another Performers Of The Year film? Some of them were quite good over the years, especially the one with Lily Carter and I also liked watching Remy getting into it.
MorganKane
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Posted - Jan 14 2015 : 1:27AM
Even tho Elegant Angel isn't dead, I seriously doubt they'll continue to be the company they once were.
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Mister Fahrenheit All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Mar 20 2015 : 1:48AM
They're still putting out new content as far as I know:
I wish Bonnie and the current stable of directors at Elegant the best of luck. But they really have their work cut out for them if they want to reclaim the glory days of the company.
CrissStrokesLexRoccoNorth
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Posted - Mar 20 2015 : 2:32AM
Nice to hear that they still have a pulse and they have been delivering some new updates. It's still gonna take a lot more effort to get me not to cancel the yearly subscription. I really don't want to because of the back catalog but at the moment there is not much reason to stay a member. They still need to create some buzz and turn things around fast.
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Damn, you really got burned on that deal. (Just one of the reasons why I never have, nor will I ever, purchase a year-long membership to any site.)
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