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BadKarma
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Posted - Sep 13 2002 : 12:36AM
I'm posting this here for lack of a better place. Its SORT OF an open question for stores in the kickback program.

I used the kickback program to place an order. All went well, no problems.

The store promptly sent me an email confirming my order -- with all the details -- in clear text. Then I started to wonder: how many mail spools that email message was sitting in?

Would the FBI's vaunted Carnivore email snooping program be logging my tastes in porn?

My surfing habits are encrypted by SSH tunneling, so the only the only thing my ISP can log is jibberish (or so it appears to them), but the stores send confirmation emails in the clear.

SO here's the question: is it/would it practical for the kickback stores (DVD Empire, FiveStar, DVDAdvantage) to encrypt emails to those of us who can/would supply a PGP public key? I guess they would need to store our public key in our account profile?

I don't know how much work it would be to implement that feature.

Now, I'm sure someone is going to tell me I'm paranoid, but just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean I'm wrong. Besides, I don't want to think John Ashcroft is 'pulling his pud' while reading the list of titles in my latest porn order.
Any light those 'in the know' are willing to shed is appreciated. And remember, be careful out there.

Drew Black
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Posted - Sep 13 2002 : 1:59AM
Sending an encrypted email is a fairly easy thing to do using a number of commerically available third-party mail components. Integrating an email encryption system into an existing site based on user profile data would be an extremely hefty undertaking. The majority of a store's customers would need to be interested in this type of feature to justify the development expense.

Receiving an encrypted email might make you feel slightly better but did you ever think about how many BCCs may be going on with your email confirmations? It's very common practice for order confirmation emails to be BCCed to various individuals/departments within an ecommerce environment. Some of the users accessing these accounts may be doing so remotely on POP3 connection (i.e., in the clear.) You have no control over the way a company handles your order data behind the scenes.

I guess the only way to be 100% safe is to not order any porn. Then there's no paper trail or data to sniff on the web.

Evil_Rip
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Posted - Sep 13 2002 : 2:48AM
or.. just pay in Cash at the porn parlor in the next town over.
Empire Man
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Posted - Sep 13 2002 : 2:16PM
are you worried about getting into legal trouble for what you order or just getting caught by wife/girlfriend etc?

From what I know, if there is questionable/illegal material being distributed, the feds will go after the retailer not the consumer....

the girlfriend/wife problem is a little different : )

BadKarma
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Posted - Sep 14 2002 : 12:33AM
In answer to Empire Man's questiona:

No, I'm not worried about legal trouble, since I live in NYC, which has no community standards (that I can see anyway). Every news/magazine stand has a rack in the back with 10 year old VHS porn on display, probably bootlegged.

And no, I'm not worried about my Significant Other objecting to porn.

I think what brought about my question is the continuing erosion of privacy, which has been accelerated by the 9/11 tragedy. People seem to be willing to trade away civil liberties for perceived security. I emphasize the word perceived.

This is rapidly becoming a cause for concern, for me at least. Guys like John Ashcroft scare the bejezus out of me. This guy would be right at home in Stalinist Russia.

And if you think your life is private, just get a copy of your credit report from one of the credit reporting agencies. And they own your private data to boot, not you.

Anyway, it was just a thought/question. And no, I'm not going to stop buying porn.




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