Why does it make someone less of a performer is he or she refuses to do scenes with people they are not attracted to? For some performers, sexual enjoyment and performance are inseparable.
Many singers refuse to sing songs they are not into. Many guitar players simply won't play music they find shitty. Why are porn performers especailly women are seen as less performers if they refuse to do scenes with someone they are unattracted too?
I say especially women because I get the sneaking suspicion that if a 20 year old man refused to perform in Scalebusters Babes 8 for $50 per scene, that would not be a problem. Just because women get paid twice as much in porn than men doesn't mean they are obligate to do ANYONE.
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Posted - Dec 5 2005 : 4:29PM
I've seen plenty of scenes where it looks like the girl was paid to be there and she didn't want to be.... Or you can look at it like she was paid to be with Joe Blow and she had no attraction to Joe at all, but she still did the scene....
I do however see your point, but I have a feeling this is a IR pointed question.
It is frustration because 'fans' want to see their favorite performers with certain men. Even if this is IR you are talking about, treating people fairly doesn't obligate anybody to have sex with anyone they don't want to.
You premise implies speaking out against wrong is somewhat uncool. I still have not understood the difference between protest and complaining from your propsective. If a performer criticizes society for how they percieve them on a consistent and passionate level, regardless if most of their audience wants to hear it or not, are they just complainers in your mind to. ARe they people just preaching.
A protester can not change how he percieves certain parts of reality that are evil because others feel it is not a problem. A protester is not supposed to stop protesting because for a long while his or her audience is annoyed or even offended by his or her message. As long as the problem exist the prostester feels obligated to speak out about it.
Gay activists, women activist and black activist do not stop protesting or preaching as you call because society is flipping the bird to the message. It is out of hope that someone will hear the message and perhaps deliver it in another way that may appeal to the audience. But if you think I am going to stop complaining about evil that disrpects other people as individuals because I won't change them then you don't comprehend a protesters heart.
The more I am told to shut the fuck up. The more I motivated to speak out. So call me a preacher, a minister, a fucking complainer all you want, you can not stop the compelling pyachhotifc and unrelenting assualt against evil ideals that poision sexuaulity, porn performers, fans and other areas of sexual morality.
Now the best way to shut me up is to ignore my message completely. Since you keep bitching about my complaining on this board, with all due respect, it tells me that it interests you on some level. If not why don't you just ignore the thread. Again I can not should tolerate evil ideals aimed at my lifestyle and sexual prefrernce from anyone. If you just want to ignore it that is on you but preaching that I should be apathetic is not a message I agree with.
The forums are for porn fans to discuss topics of interest. As far as I'm concerned, you aren't interested in discussion, you're just grandstanding. Who are you trying to convert here? Bob? Cobalt60? Lindi? Loraine? Walter Burns? Astroknight?
I don't think any of the regulars are in serious need of you proselytizing to them, so why don't you take your righteous indignation somewhere it might encounter some real porn-haters.
My goal in protest is to bring attention to an issue. I have many threads talking about porn for being porn. I could care less if I convert any of those guys or not because they are not the only one's who are on this board. The goal of preaching is for the hope to convert in the future. Do you think activist really thought they were converting hostile listeners such as yourself. Did it stop them from prostesting nope. Once you stop protesting, hope is totally gone because people unfortunately such as yourself will simply blow it off.
[quote}I don't think any of the regulars are in serious need of you proselytizing to them, so why don't you take your righteous indignation somewhere it might encounter some real porn-haters.
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I never mentioned anyone on hear as a porn hater. I have mentioned the brutal hypcoristy surrounding porn and the morality that disdains it. The problem is that people like you feel that porn hating is not a threat and is no big deal, but yet Howard Stern is capped from regular radio. We have still legal issues regarding adult that do not involving guys slapping and choking women.
Now just a thought, what does my statement that porn stars are not obligated to fuck anyone because they make twice as much money have to do with preaching. I am just defending the porn stars sexual taste. There are men on this board who preach the opposite. Go talk to them about preaching.
I have discussed. I simply reject your apathy. You give your view. I have given an opposing view. If I was a mod and heard your view, I would let you keep with your "stop complaining mentality".
Your opposite view I reject. If you are tired of the discussion you would go on another board. As a matter of fact the others that you have mentioned would haved done the same thing.
Then those regulars would not respond to my board. Why don't the regulars that you have mentioned stop replying to every thread regarding issues in porn?
I state my view quite clearly. If someone finds racism in interracial and wants to expose it for it's alleged immorality. Unlike you I would not call it complaining or preaching. if you don't like preaching as you call it you don't have to respond. It is your fault that you are listening to my preaching, you are the one who decides to bitch about it. Just skip over all my threads you consider preaching.
Yes, and I have particpated on many of them. What's your point?Convert? I am aggressively stating my opinion. You see I believe in my opinion so strongly that I am willing to fight for it. It is just not an opinion it is fact. Since you find my aggression and passion so offensive or uneccessary, suggest to these critics not to respond to my thread.
What I don't understand, Huggins, is why you have to reply numerous times to your own thread? Why not make a single response to Hardware there, as opposed to 7 of the past 9 posts being from you, directed to him? It's a little bizarre, to say the least.
or at least just reply once to each post. That last post by Hardware got 4 immediate replies from you. Sounds like someone might need to jerk off before starting to reply.
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Posted - Dec 5 2005 : 3:27PM