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I don't think so. Its much easier for women to get sex than men. I actually created a hypothesis about this for a class using a picture of the exact same male on craigslist with the same stats. In my results I received 24 responses from men and 3 responses from women one being spam. I had one ad in the w4m catagory and another in the m4m. Both were done for the same time period. My prof was actually really impressed and made mr present it to the class.
Man, I can't imagine ever going to an escort. They have too much volume, I would think it's a lock that you get at the very least herpes. I don't want that. If it happens, I'd rather it be with some one night stand than by an escort. I think......hmmmm.
"All knowledge ultimately means self knowledge."--Bruce Lee 97 Posts 4/07
Posted - Apr 24 2007 : 3:01AM
No, it isn't a lock that you'll get herpes from an escort. Some people would be surprised about what walk of life escorts come from. I know of a Hooter's restaurant where four of their hottest waitresses became escorts, and one of them is on top now in one of the biggest markets for escorts--Las Vegas. She works out everyday, is healthy, and drop dead gorgeous--a perfect 10 if there is such a woman. She banks--makes thousands each month, is exclusive about who she sees--and now has a sugar daddy who invented a software that made him so rich he is buying her a house.
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Posted - Apr 24 2007 : 12:33PM
I like what one guy said, I forget where I saw it: It's not the providers I worry about, it's their customers. The really responsible girls get tested monthly. They also have an escape plan for a life beyond escorting, which is more than we can say for a lot of porn girls.
Hairy Potter wrote: I would think it's a lock that you get at the very least herpes. I don't want that.
My friends never gave me any diseases. I played bareback with both of those girls. I have no idea if they played bareback with their clients tho.
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Posted - May 1 2007 : 11:45PM
fundo wrote:
"No, it isn't a lock that you'll get herpes from an escort. Some people would be surprised about what walk of life escorts come from. I know of a Hooter's restaurant where four of their hottest waitresses became escorts, and one of them is on top now in one of the biggest markets for escorts--Las Vegas. She works out everyday, is healthy, and drop dead gorgeous--a perfect 10 if there is such a woman. She banks--makes thousands each month, is exclusive about who she sees--and now has a sugar daddy who invented a software that made him so rich he is buying her a house."
AlexPanzer: Isn't that guy is the one who invented the sharpen filter for Photoshop?
They also have an escape plan for a life beyond escorting, which is more than we can say for a lot of porn girls. -------------------------------------------
"All knowledge ultimately means self knowledge."--Bruce Lee 97 Posts 4/07
Posted - May 2 2007 : 12:57AM
Wikipedia says: "Prostitutes are not the only people who have sex for money. Porn actors and actresses get paid for having sex, but they are both paid by a third party, the porn producer. A prostitute is paid by the person who he/she has sex with."
This definition means actresses working with any producer who is also male talent are prostitutes, and the producer is a john. Nothing wrong with that.
Most people don't have an escape plan for how they'd get out of their house if it ever caught fire. And most people have no clue what they want to do with their lives. They pick something they're kinda, sorta interested in and that they don't absolutely hate with every bone on their body and they go with it until they get so sick of doing it, they just can't stand another day. Then they pick the next most tolerable thing for a change of scenery.
Most professions suck. Most people don't really want to work. You should never turn your back on anyone who loves their job. Escorts probably don't like escorting any more than garbage men like picking up other people's trash for a living or painters like painting walls all day long. For every escort who's happy, there are probably ten who are miserable. For every ten who are miserable, there are probably a hundred who would be more miserable doing something else. We all live to make other people's lives a living hell. Everybody fucks somebody. Everybody takes it in the ass from somebody. Escorts risk STDs. Other people in other professions eventually just go completely mad from the stress. Almost nobody is lucky enough to make it through life unscathed. You will beg for mercy before it's over with.
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Posted - May 2 2007 : 11:41PM
Guys paid me to suck my dick and than I spend the money to fuck some chicks.
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I always thought it took at least a hint of gayness to pull off all of those weenie to weenie double anal/double vag scenes.....
I believe the accepted term is "hobbyist" in terms of using escorts. I've probably been with 40 escorts or so over the years, mostly lonely biz trips.
If you have the time to scout (which can be fun) try TER or bigdoggie for reviews and ratings and pictures. Bulletin board type sites are a mixed bag. Established agencies are good as well. If you can't get a TER or TBD review you are probably rolling the dice.
Etiquette as I understand it is leave the cash across the room on a table, but not in plain site. (you don't want to hand it to them). They might ask some "are you a cop" questions. It is really worth it at that point to treat it like a date and schmooze and relax them. It can be awkward if they ask for the money, and you have a bad feeling about the "services" and then it goes back and forth and it is weird.
The nomenclature is "full service"(intercourse) and "girl friend experience" no condom on oral.
At of 40 times I've gotten ripped off once (the girl left the room to give the $$ to her boyfriend....SEE YA). Fucking Vegas. Never let them leave the room with the bucks.
A few times I got uptight girls who wanted the money or said they were going to dance (for $400?). So that ended with me ginving them something for their time *$50 or $100, and letting them split.
Other girls will get you going and then say they need tips for anal or uncovered oral or whatever.
Again, all that is avoided by checking the review sites.
It can be great and thrilling, I've met some stunning women, several of whom I've hooked up with multiple times.
But I shudder to think of the bucks. Almost always $400...one time I got "talked" into $1200 or $1500...I must have been out of my mind. Wasn't even that great.
Escorts come in alot of different flavors. The traditional term escort is a person that would literally "escort" you to a function like a "premerie". It is a service for someone that is single and cannot find someone that fits his/her image that they want to project.
In the late 70s' and beyond that term refer to high price call girls. They would go with a gentlemen on date and then if they wish and the price was okay; have a specific sex act with them or an all nighter.
I read in a nonfiction book on this topic back in the 90s and it was the CEOs, hollywood studio heads, top flight actors that patonized their services for the most part! And a majority of them were married!
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Posted - May 8 2007 : 1:40PM
When asked about paying escorts for sex, Charlie Shee replied, 'I wasn't paying them for sex, I was paying them to leave afterwards!"
many sites are available to do a2m without condom as a porn scene. 200 in russia probably 300-400 in budapest. in terms of escorts. i know u can have all nighters in ukraine for 200 same in russia. all these rates i heard are way too high. i know in montreal escorts can be had for like 140 total gfe experience 200 with anal sometimes. offering her services in toronto good rates btw. i got an email from her agent recently. btw escorting/porn is totally legal in canada. this is the email from the agent. wildtorontochick@hotmail.com
http://toronto.craigslist.org/ers/324174024.html Hi thanks for your interest. IF YOU WANT TO BOOK MAKE SURE TO DO SO SOON AS IT WILL FILL UP FOR SURE..
EVEN DO A SEARCH FOR BELLE BOND ON GOOGLE
Well this is Katrina her booking agent..the rates and what is included is as follows: Do keep in mind that many girls now charge $300/hr for standard full and are just a regular girl..Belle Bond is a PORN STAR and only 19 years old. Offering much much more..AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS EMAIL IS MANY OF HER RECENT WORK ON VIDEOS AND MAGZINES ETC.
I will be in 3 locations during my stay:
1-Woodbridge 2-Toronto 3-Mississauga
Donation: *******NEW BETTER PRICING FOR PRE-BOOKING ONLY***INCALL OR OUTCALL
SPECIAL $350/hr (reg:400/hr) $600/2hours (reg:700/2hours)
PSE EXP everything bb included (with papers) I still do movies..need to be safe
SPECIAL $500/hr (reg: 750/hours) $1000/2 hours (reg: 1200/2hours)
Included in PSE everything above and more..(BARE YES FULL BARE IS INCLUDED as long as you have papers no older than a 1 month) I am still in UPCOMING MOVIES NEED TO BE SAFE and CLEAN TO CONTINUE MY WORK AS A PORN STAR
My list of videos ararchy- trom bown blown #27 www.bangbros.com -streetranger with bella- eat fuck and run scene www.firsttimeauditions.com bella new sensations- bound to please hush hush- bachelor party fuck fest Hustlers Barely legal #70 Huslters barely legal-my 18th birthday #2 www.cumonherface.com www.teensforcash.com www.lesbianhangout.com www.muffhuggers.com Combat zone- naughty amateurs I am also in the may issue of high times 2007 miss may
Whatever anyone decides it's supposed to be. It's all bullshit. The only four letters that count are:
YMMV
I would take GFE to be tongue kissing, pussy licking, cock sucking without a rubber on, and a higher level of affectionate behavior (as opposed to cold-hearted clock-watching, no kissing on the mouth, don't touch me there, etc.)
PSE ... um, usually an excuse to ask for an extra $100. For pretty much the same thing? Maybe some deepthroating? In my (extremely limited but plenty foolhardy) experience in this area, it's all about vibe. If they think you are not an axe-killer or a child-molester and you bathe within an hour of the appointment, you will probably have a good time and have things done to your person that are highly satisfying.
I can promise you, the less cash I've paid, the more nutty and "PSE" the girl has been. You can usually sense a ripoff just from looking at the ad. Really.
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Posted - May 10 2007 : 10:45PM
RUMOR: Not finger-pointing by any means, but I was told this was associated with LA Direct?
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Posted - May 10 2007 : 11:31PM
Dirty Doug, that's interesting--is your source sure? Here is a thread where escorts state that CityVibe's owner and the owner of The Erotic Review are friends and collude to promote their busineses--I've noticed that LA Direct Models who escort, like Ava Devine, always get perfect reviews. If the owner of LA Direct is an owner of Cityvibe, then that's interesting--Adutlfyi.com interviewed Carmella Bing, a Vegas Escort, who was doing a scene for Skeeter Kerkove last week, and she said the owner of LA Direct pimped her to a Japanese client. See Elvira's comment: http://www.thephantomreview.com/review/img886.htm
Skronker is right, if the ads make your spidey sense tingle stay away.
Oh, and even when you think it's all locked in, there's about a 50% chance something weird will happen -- from flaking to, well, who knows what? Sadly, the photos are not always accurate. And what people post on the Internet as a "review" is highly subjective.
On the other hand, for every "Meg Ryan"-type who shows up looking more like a tranny, there's someone who really is "the girl next door." But, you know, even more so
My business partner's daughter (she's 28 now) is a full-time escort. She's a bit on the BBW side but has no END of clients asking for her services. She has a website, a FAQ, her own (very positive) set of reviews, her own merchandise sales arm....the whole nine yards. He calls his daughter a prostitute and isn't happy with her chosen vocation, but I have to admit....she's very professional and discreet about it.
She makes no bones about the fact that she can provide special services. Her normal price list on her website lists her at around $1800 for a "date," but even her FAQ goes into HUGE detail about the proper "protocol" for paying her. Leave the money somewhere visible where she can see it upon arrival, never call her attention to it, never mention it once she's there in person, tips not expected but appreciated, service charge is only for her company and companionship, no solicitiation for sexual services, etc. Very professionally done. Anyone can see thru that she's a prostitute and will "do" anything, especially once you read her reviews. I especially like the code phrases ("I won't travel to Greece without first class accomodations, but still enjoy French trips with all my clients," is listed on her ratecard) and all the nuances.
But given her setup, the "style" in which she offers her services, it ALMOST smells, looks and acts like a legitimate business offer.
Which is another reason why I think cops won't ever do anything about her or those like her. If it looks legit to me, and she's that careful about how she advertises her services and goes about receiving payment, it would be just too much effort to bust her as opposed to driving to the seedier side of town and rounding up the ho's by the dozens. The only time you see escorts busted are when their clientele become too high profile and numerous to be comfortable with them any longer...as is the case in the most recent busts in the DC metro area.
Incidentally, for all the porn stars who brag about their rates....I find it interesting that porn stars aren't really making any more than this woman does. She's never done any porn that I'm aware of and is just one of hundreds in her particular market (west coast). So it appears the economy of escorting doesn't necessarily cater to porn-stars. While he may not like what his daughter does for a living, she is very self sufficient and makes enough money to own two homes and has a sugar daddy paying for a vacation villa in the Keys.
So it basically wouldn't even be worth it paying the extra money for the "pse"...So if you paid for the "gfe" and she was actually attracted to you...you could probably get watever anyways?? (within reason of course)
If they dangle that as an extra $$$ option, don't even book them.
I live in New York City, and the going rate is $300. Some girls price themselves higher, and presumably there's "more" to be enjoyed, but really how much can you do in one hour? You're gonna get blown and you're gonna fuck, and maybe there will be some friendly interaction, or you have some little kink that can be indulged. (I like them to bite the living fuck out of my nipples while they reflect on their childhood attraction to Flipper re-runs) ... Strangely, out of maybe 10 occasions, the best times were always with girls who asked for $200-$250 an hour. And an hour was usually 1.5-2 hours in practice. I've met girls who let me "channel my inner Brandon Iron" and smiled gleefully. I met a wacky chick who squirreled me for two hours straight, while we drank wine and popped Vicodins. Even the tranny lookalike was strangely into intense throat fucking and ass-licking ... I dunno, it's a wild world ...Look around and read up, roll the dice. I can promise you will waste a few hundred bucks in the process, but it will all even out as you develop your "whore-dar."
Oh, and NEVER go whoring at the Circle Bar with Von Swine at 4 a.m. my friend. He will scoop "your" girl right out from under our gaze, and then tell you all about it the next day. lol
Just a quick question. If escorts alot of the time don't actually engage in any sexual acts, what exactly do they do when they come over to your house? Give you a massage?
For the gents who hire a gal for companionship only, mostly they talk. They're really lonely and just want someone's undivided attention. I've suggested to a few of those fellows that maybe a shrink was what they really needed, not a pro. I know that one did take that suggestion and thanked me for making it.
Other times they want someone to accompany them. Sporting events, concerts, movies, dinner - everything is more fun if you have someone, even a paid companion, to share it with.
Kimi Lixx wrote... ____________________________________________________________ I've suggested to a few of those fellows that maybe a shrink was what they really needed, not a pro. ____________________________________________________________
Are there any shrinks that look like Kimi?
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Posted - May 12 2007 : 1:31PM
Kimi should become one, only I think there would be a drop in her income, if she did.
I can certainly understand the need for company, Kimi. No one wants to go out to a pub on their own but surely they must have SOMEONE they could go with??
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Posted - May 12 2007 : 1:35PM
Are you serious? All he wanted to do was talk? Do you think he was just really shy and was afraid to ask for it? Did you make any hints that more may be avaialble?
Other times they want someone to
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Some guys have fantasies about being with a call girl and not having sex, instead just hanging out or whatever. I've seen it before, I think on an HBO special where they interviewed some guys at the cat house.