Here's another escort thread for y'all. Whilst trying to procure talent for his porno project, a friend of mine offered nearly three times the going pornstarlet rate to various escorts to do a porno. They all refused, unless it was erotic/softcore. Now these chicks fuck strangers for a living, broadcast their naked bodies and faces across the globe on the net, and have no problem whatsoever with the idea of getting naked with a man on film to simulate sex. But they just wouldn't have non-simulated sex on film. What's up with that, man?
It's all about privacy and deniability issues. Most escorts think porn performers are insane to put their image on record doing what they do for the world to see forever. You can walk away from being an escort, with no one the wiser. Even if someone thinks they recognize you, it's easy to say "You must be mistaken." or "I just have one of those faces everyone thinks looks like someone they know." Stripping is like that, too. When you're done, it's over. With porn, doesn't matter if you're done, it's forever.
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Kensington Chapp Senior Citizen
Mine is the biggest. 610 Posts 7/07
Posted - Oct 21 2007 : 2:33PM
Good point. BUTT they are still willing to pretend to have actual sex on camera.
As Kimi says, softcore does not leave a stigma. Porn does. Over the years girls who've done softcore (from Playboy to "Emmanuelle") have had success in moving their careers "upward." Plus, on a personal level, softcore girls can openly date/marry celebs. Not so with porn girls. Doing porn is a major life-altering decision. This is why your friend is having trouble getting escorts to do in front of a camera what they willingly do in the privacy of a hotel room. I'm not surprised.
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Ordell Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 21 2007 : 3:27PM
I said this once in another thread and I'll repeat it here. I saw an escort once who told me she'd considered doing porn but that it was harder for her to erase her past if she did it, whereas she could leave escorting any time. Doesn't stop her from having a web site, though. :) She had a nice, thick body, kinda reminded me of Sindee Coxx.
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MikeSouth Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 21 2007 : 5:17PM
Why would she? I mean if she starts working in porn valley the odds that she will have at least one STD and probably herpes in the first month are astronomically high. Many escorts dont feel its worth it.
I have talked about this to several escorts and its mostly about not having family or frineds find out. Its fading though as many escorts have become porn stars and vice versa.
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brewski Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 21 2007 : 6:12PM
@MikeSouth How do the porn guys get wood thinking about multiple STDs and Herpes? No wonder they don't eat pussy anymore. They couldn't pay me enough.
Edited by - hardware on 10/21/2007 8:29:53 PM
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maniac killa Deactivated User
"Allow me to extend my hand in friendship and shake yo fuckin neck" 82 Posts 10/07
Posted - Oct 22 2007 : 1:11AM
is it true that most guys dont eat pussy in porn in fear of an std? i love watching girls getting eaten out. wouldnt they be getting one anyway if he stuck his dick there? and is it true that a lot of porn stars male and female have herpes?!!???!!
Regarding the risk of STDs . . . In a business where HIV, hepatitis C and syphillis are very much a reality, other infections such as genital herpes, chlamydia, gonorrhea etc are considered "occupational hazard." The only action I can take to protect my moneymaker (literally!) is to visit doctors fairly often. Unlike most individuals, my health has to be at +100% to minimize my risks of becoming seriously ill. Remember, we don't get sick days! We are also required to get tested every 28 days. Even if I get a mild cold, you can bet I'll be seeing my doctor to make sure the infection gets controlled quickly. Regarding escorts' fear of social stigma . . . We always fear the unknown. And there's no way to discover what's like to be an adult perfomer unless you become one! On the other hand, many adult performers also refuse to do "privates" because it places us in a very uncomfortable and vulnerable situation. I always feel safe and protected on a set. I wouldn't say the same regarding a stranger's bedroom.
My question is most herpes outbreaks and I could be wrong are cycled and there is no chance of catching it if there is no outbreak during the event. As long as you are not active during an outbreak you have a lower incidence of catching it. So, that would mean these people are performing during outbreaks during that month. That would be not good, healthy or smart. I am not a health expert on this issue but if outbreaks are going on with a person who has herpes they should not be performing that week. Nasty. Escorts and porn stars are all the same to me and one feeling better than the other about each other is silly. They are both the same, they have sex and make money doing it. Whether on film or for pay at a hotel.
When having sex with fellow pornstars, you are having sex with people that are tested regularly (every 28-days for HIV). Sex with a stranger is much more risky.
Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman ! 2776 Posts 10/07
Posted - Oct 22 2007 : 12:28PM
Herpes can be passed when there is an active outbreak or not. Some people can have herpes and never know they have it because their bodies keep it under control. I don't know for sure but I doubt that the STD testing that is done includes testing for Herpes. Correct me please if I'm wrong. Herpes is becoming more and more prevalent in the general population let alone the adult industry. People either don't know they have it or mistakenly think they can't pass it if they aren't having an outbreak or think a condom is 100 percent effective ( it isn't because you can have herpes outside the area it covers) or just lie about it. Thank goodness herpes is a relatively innocuous disease although aggravating as hell.I wouldn't think twice about going to bed with a girl who told me she has herpes becaused at least I know she is honest and knows when she is most infectious. Others I don't trust. I knew a girl who had told me she had it but had been lying to others. That wasn't a pretty scene when they found out. By the way , just ask Rikki Anderson what the difference between doing one hardcore movie can make. She was fired from her teaching job in Kentucky after the board of education found out.
I LOVE eating pussy and I never think about STDs. In over 10 years and more than 2000 scenes I only caught Chlamydia twice.Obviously it is not the same for the people who do it, and that is all what matters. Steve Holmes
I have never been with an escort, never met one or anything so a guess: A lot of escorts like sex, however most will only do what they want and not what the director wants, which porn stars are expected to do... Not everybody wants to be seen in porn, who wants to become famous for being a slut, or have the risk of their friends/family finding out... No contraceptives are used in porn...
All I just want is a blowjob...is that too much to ask?? lol
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Kensington Chapp Senior Citizen
Mine is the biggest. 610 Posts 7/07
Posted - Oct 22 2007 : 5:00PM
Hmmm. Or maybe escorts are hiding behind the "it's not what you know, it's what you can prove" thingy. Y'know, like nobaody can PROVE escorts have sex with strangers for dollars, but once you do porn, then ha! we got proof!
@backdoorman Great response to my post about herpes and outcomes and if someone has a outbreak and is still performing during an outbreak. I was unsure of the type of issues if someone does not know they have it and then can spread it. This does make it problematic for performers if that is the case. But, if someone knows they are having a legion time moment during that month.....they need to not perform during that time. Agreed. mod: snipped the quote Edited by - hardware on 10/22/2007 10:08:56 PM
Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman ! 2776 Posts 10/07
Posted - Oct 22 2007 : 6:41PM
Absolutely. Unless of course their partner already has herpes and is apprised of the situation. Of course there are different strains of herpes some more virulent than others. I guess it would depend on the performers and their prior knowledge. All this is conjecture on my part. It's not as if I've ever even been on a porn set. : )
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MikeSouth Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 22 2007 : 7:18PM
we gotta term for that down here in GA BULL SHIT straight up....if you cant figure out why its bullshit yer beyond my ability to educate ya
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magnyc Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 22 2007 : 8:14PM
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^ Please educate me, Mike. If you're going to tell me that, since other pornstars fuck strangers outside the industry, everyone is equally at risk, I disagree. Regular monthly testing will still weed-out the HIV risks (certainly better than untested strangers). If you're going to tell me that, certain talent fake their tests and/or results, so what? Again, monthly testing will eventually catch the people they infect. "Straight up"... I'm old enough that I like people to tell me why they disagree with me instead of telling me I'm full of "Bull Shit." I also don't give a rat's ass about anything other than HIV (you know, the one that kills you). Other STDS have been around forever (even in the pre-AIDS/ the "Pill" era when we all fucked anything that moved without a second thought).
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Zaer Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 22 2007 : 10:27PM
That service has never really had top line women, try bellamodels or Lexxi Tyler's group for better ones.
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MikeSouth Deactivated User
511 Posts 11/02
Posted - Oct 23 2007 : 3:14AM
Ok for starters HIV is the least of your worries in this biz and in a bar pickup the truth is heterosexual transmission outside of anal sex and shared needles is exceedingly rare. but thats ok theres plenty of STDs out there that shoud scare ya, Hep, Syphillis, Gonnorhea, Herpes, even some that are antibiotic resistant, and if you dont think they can kill ya ask Al Capone...Oh wait he is dead. and those are the reasons why this biz is so much more dangerous than casual sex, particularly when you keep passing them back and forth and over time antibiotics are no longer effective. This biz is lucky that HIV is so difficult to contract otherwise this business would have destroyed itself ages ago. AIM doesn't even use gold standard testing for Gods sake but thats another rant entirely.
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ragingbull Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 23 2007 : 6:24PM
I don't know why the porn industry shoots the same people over and over again in similar scenes. Now, some of the big budget stuff and soft stuff I can see why girls fo it. But the girls who ten anals a month and blow-bangd and bukkakes. I don't know how they put up with it. But, they do, god bless.
I'll knock up your wife and won't give a f*** 74 Posts 6/07
Posted - Oct 25 2007 : 1:46AM
http://www.eros-austin.com/sections/austin_escorts.htm http://austin.craigslist.org/search/ers?query=w4m&minAsk=min&maxAsk=max&hasPic=1 ^be wary, some of these are just adverts...some are actually real women Anyone know if Claire Dames escorts? She is so fine Edited by - Mister Satan on 10/25/2007 2:16:05 AM
Isn't most escort activity with condoms and porn is mostly condomless? I think that is another reason escorts avoid porn. Plus, escorts make more per hour and don't have to do all the porn gymnastics required to get camera angles. An escort could also see several guys in the time it takes her to shoot one scene including travel time and make up chair. It is also much easier to deny a few still pictures on an escort site is really you compared to full video footage with audio.
I remember reading an interview several months ago in which Ava Devine was quite enthusiatic about her escort activities, unfortunately I didn't make a note of the specific agency, just took a peek at the webpage or I'd post it. There were quite a few porn/escort crossovers listed on that site as well. If I come across it again, I toss the link up.
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ragingbull Deactivated User
404 Posts 5/07
Posted - Nov 1 2007 : 11:19PM
I would definately pay to have sex or get a BJ from a porn star because those girls are so good. Most escorts don't want to fuck and don't give a fuck about you. They do a half ass job and take the money and run. Which I totally understand, but porn girls can fuck like nothing I have seen.
This is Mandy Dee. I am more in awe of her than I was of Greta 1478 Posts 1/04
Posted - Nov 2 2007 : 12:46AM
All of this fear of sex for money comes from the fact the United States is stuck in the Puritan, Texas Baptist, right wing crap that sex is evil. They think it's especially evil when a woman has sex for money and actually likes the job! Prostitution, escorting, and porn production is legal and state regulated nearly everywhere else in the world where a lunatic religion doesn't hold sway. It is an honorable and safe profession everywhere else in the industrialized world, except here. Let's just hope that the average totally ignorant American, has been so alienated by the vicious right wing W administration some headway can be made in getting us socially out of the 15th century. lordish
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ragingbull Deactivated User
404 Posts 5/07
Posted - Nov 2 2007 : 1:16AM
I agree with your thesis, but the truth is legalized prostitition is very rare even in W. Europe. It is not enforced in must of the sorld, so it may seem legal.
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Hypermastia Deactivated User
These R The Buttocks Of Ryan Star: No Butt Can Compare 248 Posts 6/07
Posted - Nov 2 2007 : 8:28PM
Becca Bratt, Eden, and Rayveness are available at the Moonlite Bunny Ranch...... ....not that i can afford a handshake
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ragingbull Deactivated User
404 Posts 5/07
Posted - Nov 3 2007 : 3:54AM
Also most escorts I have been with are really street smart. Seems like a lot of girls get into porn because they are in a """"""movie"""""""
I fucked a girl in a massage parlor that later got into porn as an actress. She was a wild one, we fucked in every position you can imagine except anal (not my thing). After she blew me to a giant cum I could barely walk. One of the best times I ever had.
jizz4ginger, sorry to throw that at you; if she was an escort/massage chick/prostitute then that's ok... for a while I thought you were talking about a normal civilian girl.