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Posted - Oct 10 2003 : 9:13PM
Since there has been talk recently of a lack of posts about European adult films, I thought I'd post one.

Since I've seen so many American classics, I was wondering if anyone can recommend some European classic feature adult films, preferably made before 1986 that are available on DVD as I'd like to see what Europe was offering at the time. They would have to be available on R0 discs as my player isn't multi-regional. NTSC and English language tracks would be nice, but my computer DVD-ROM can play PAL so NTSC isn't a requirement.

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Posted - Oct 10 2003 : 9:18PM
Region zero, huh? I don't know of any, maybe Bill can help.

Is there any special reason for using 1986 as a cutoff point? There's plenty of plot-based Euro-porn made after that, you know.

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Posted - Oct 10 2003 : 9:21PM
The reason for 86 is I want to see some classic selections. I've seen some newer Private and Marc Dorcel titles, but never any classic films and I wanted to know some good ones.
Lazerus
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187 Posts
9/03
Posted - Oct 11 2003 : 6:34AM
I'm afraid the problem with recommending old European porn on DVD is that there isn't much; very few titles are even available on VHS now, apart from second generation copies sold on a few web sites. The pickings are slim, at least at the present.

The earliest European features were made in Denmark and Sweden, but the best were from France, after the legalization of pornography in 1975. There is no point in detailing a lot of titles for readers here that they won't find anywhere, so I will limit myself to two films I would recommend from this period that are available on DVD.

The first is Le Sexe qui Parle (Pussy Talk) , which is often called the first French hardcore classic. Not quite, perhaps (Exhibition was), but this film holds up pretty well to this day. Made by the Lansac/LeRoi partnership, it is paired on DVD with a later Lansac film, Le femme Objet , on one DVD. I have not seen the DVD print on this (Blue One), so I cannot tell anyone about the quality, etc. I doubt there are any cuts from the original. There may be other editions of this title on DVD as well (?)

I have also noticed the Caballero has released a new DVD version of Education of a Baroness (Indecencies 1930 aka Parties Fines) , which is probably the best hardcore film of Bridgitte Lahaie's career (and one of the earliest). It dates from about 1977. Blue One has also released an edition of this one, and for me, I would be inclined towards the European import version--US companies are suspect in their treatment of DVD transfers on the old classics, and often edit them as well (and let's not forget the terrible dubbing). The Blue One edition is region-free PAL, the Cab. is NTSC. This film, by Gerard Kikoine, is for many old fans a model of the French style in hardcore: intelligent, humorous, fetishistic, and polished.

Most women would enjoy these films, I think, despite the obviously sexist theme of Indecencies 1930 . The only irritating thing for many contemporary viewers might be the editing in of insert close-up footage--a habit in old porn that gets old rather fast. That caveat aside, these are both worth seeing. I know they are available at Orgazmik to buy; you might shop a bit at other retailers if you find Orgazmik a bit pricey (I do). Also, I recommend www.egafd.com as an excellent resource for info about classic Euro porn.

sdc
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236 Posts
4/03
Posted - Oct 12 2003 : 8:32AM
I think Le Sexe Qui Parle /Pussy Talk is the best place to start. As Lazerus indicated, it's a landmark film and remains one of the best adult films to come out of France. Despite a bizarre/ludicrous premise - a woman's vagina develops a voice of it's own - the film is very erotic, very cinematic and features an outstanding score. It's had two dvd releases that I know of and both are worth owning. The first was in the UK on the Eurotika label. This is the softcore version but it's testament to the quality of the film that it's still very enjoyable. This version is noteworthy because, rather than being simply a watered down version of the original, it contains alternate footage not found in the hard version. However, the real selling point of this disc is an excellent 30 minute documentary on the history of French hardcore. It's been awhile since I watched it but it features lot's of rare footage and interviews, among others, Brigitte Lahaie (more on her in a minute). The French disk, on the Alpha France/ Blue One label, is the original hard version. I haven't done a side by side comparison but as far as I could tell it's uncut. It's available on a double-sided disk with La Femme Objet , another excellent movie from Frederic Lansac, this time starring the lovely Marilyn Jess.

Despite the historical significance of Le Sexe Quie Parle , I suspect the best selling titles in the Alpha France catalogue are those featuring Brigitte Lahaie. My initial exposure to Ms Lahaie was via her performances in a couple of Jean Rollin's vampire movies and I've subsequently found her hardcore work to be a bit of a mixed bag. My favourite is La Maison Des Phantasmes /Clarisse /Soumission , a movie with quite a serious tone. This one has quite a libertine feel to it and works well as a dramatic movie - highly recommended. It's available on double-sided disk and paired with Couple Cherche Esclaves Sexuels which is only recommended for those suffering from insomnia.
Another classic film featuring Ms Lahaie (and, like Soumission , also directed by Claude Bernard-Aubert albeit under a pseudonym) is Fievres Nocturnes . Here, one of Brigitte's neighbours (understandably) becomes fixated on her. The film is well made, enjoyable from start to finish and has a couple of nice dream-sequences.
Finally, in terms of recommendations, is Les Petites Ecolieres from 1980. This is an enjoyable if inconsequential movie directed by Claude Mulot. I believe it was also one of Brigitte's last hardcore performances. Here she runs a school in which young girls are tutored in the erotic arts.

Of the other European films I've seen from this period, only three are currently available on disk: Auto-Stopeuses En Chaleur , the first French hardcore I saw, is entirely unremarkable. Parties Fines is well made but didn't do a lot for me. Je Suis Un Prendre , by Francis Leroi, is a very stylish film but isn't currently available in English.

Finally, a word on the quality of these disks. Be warned that the English dubbing (all disks mentioned above have English soundtracks unless otherwise noted) is pretty poor. However, the visual quality of the Alpha France disks is excellent. All the movies are presented widescreen (I assume in their original aspect ratio's) and look fabulous. There is actually a documentary on the restoration of La Femme Objet included on that disk. If only the relevant US companies took such care (and pride) when releasing their classic movies. All of the disks I've mentioned are PAL and most are 'region free' but, a couple are apparently region two encoded. They can all be purchased from Xploited cinema.

Enjoy!

SDC

Edited by - sdc on 10/12/2003 9:09:51 AM

 
Lazerus
Member

187 Posts
9/03
Posted - Oct 13 2003 : 7:09AM
In addition to the films already discussed, I would also recommend Josefine Mutzenbacher--Wie Sie Wirklich War , another classic European title from the late 1970's, this time from Austria. Caballero released it edited as Sensational Janine in the US. However, now a uncut edition is available in R0 PAL format, from Herzog DVD. The sequel, released in the US in the 1980's as Professional Janine , is also available from Herzog, but I would stick to the original--it is perhaps less polished, but a better sex film.

I was interested to read sdc's opinions on the Lahaie films available from Blue One; I did not detail any other than Parties Fines in my original post, as most of her other features depend rather heavily (for me) on whether you find Lahaie herself exotic and appealing, given her amount of on-screen time in most of them. I personally find her very beautiful, but generally a wooden, mechanical sex performer. I think I once told someone she was the European Shauna Grant; too harsh, I think now, and I must also confess a relative indifference to Aubert (alas Burd Tranbaree) as a director. I did like Soumission , however. My favorite of her other films is Je Suis un Prendre .

There are many other interesting and remarkable European porn films made during the classic era, most of which desperately need the sort of definitive re-mastering that has been given to the Lahaie catalogue. Lasse Braun's Sensations needs a DVD version from source material. Max Pecas' Les Milles et une Perversions de Felicia needs a uncut hardcore edition on DVD. And so on.




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