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oatmeal
Meat Popsicle


Seeking Beauty
1738 Posts
8/04
Posted - Oct 27 2004 : 9:55PM
Have you ever had this problem?

I was just making a copy of one CD-R to another and the source disc exploded in the Toshiba Samsung DVD drive.

I started it going and left the room to let Mrs Oatmeal play Mahjongg. A few minutes later I heard a loud snap noise three rooms away with the TV on. She just about dropped a load in her pants.

I don't know if the disc was warped and broke coming out of if the laser did something freaky.

Regardless my new Dell 8400 is one piper down. The DVD drive is filled with debris and sounds like a rattle. Anyone want to buy a used DVD drive? AS IS

I wonder if the warranty covers this?

Edited by - oatmeal on Oct 28 2004

Kperv
The Cuddler

*struck
(She slipped)

1818 Posts
1/04
Posted - Oct 28 2004 : 12:21PM
A couple of years ago on a slow news day there was a segment about this.

With drives exceeding 4 hex even minor imperfections in the disc become critical.
In some cases the front of the drive was blown off and the shards came flying across the room.

Did the missus complete her game?

oatmeal
Meat Popsicle

Seeking Beauty
1738 Posts
8/04
Posted - Oct 28 2004 : 12:35PM
no... she was too shaken the door was partially open and there was a pile of shrappnel. "It blowed up real good"
oatmeal
Meat Popsicle

Seeking Beauty
1738 Posts
8/04
Posted - Oct 28 2004 : 12:55PM
Proof
Kperv
The Cuddler

*struck
(She slipped)

1818 Posts
1/04
Posted - Oct 28 2004 : 1:46PM
One more reason to place the PC under a desk or in a closet if the cooling is up to it.

Exploding CDs may be rare, but having the PC on the desk could get nasty. Those shards are very sharp and can easily destroy an eye or two.

I hope you gave her a nice cuddle.

 
oatmeal
Meat Popsicle

Seeking Beauty
1738 Posts
8/04
Posted - Oct 28 2004 : 2:22PM
I'll use any excuse I can
cobalt60
Knuckle Dragger

2046 Posts
2/03
Posted - Oct 28 2004 : 2:32PM
Hmm...that wouldn't be a certain Microsoft desktop OS and key code now, would it?

Glad the missus wasn't harmed in the making of this disc!

Have you tried taking the drive apart and getting all the shrapnel out? It may actually still work?

oatmeal
Meat Popsicle

Seeking Beauty
1738 Posts
8/04
Posted - Oct 28 2004 : 3:13PM
No it wouldn't be (shakey eyes). When someone wants me to fix their computer I used to use that disc.

I did take the DVD drive apart and now have a wastepaper basket full of jewlery. The piece in the photo was the last piece to come out. Now it can open and close.

The drive probably still works but the cd did't just explode into solid pieces like in the photo. It blew the two layers apart and littered the insides with metal flakes. I'm afraid it's a shock or fire hazard and have taken it out. Dell is mailing me a replacement to install.

The first tech support guy sounded like he was in Russia (unconfirmed) and wanted me to try a couple of other things. Like what? "The drive is filled with bits of plastic and metal and sounds like someone eating captain crunch cereal?"

The second tech support guy I talked to was in India (confirmed).

Freaky thing. I had never heard of that happening before.

cobalt60
Knuckle Dragger

2046 Posts
2/03
Posted - Oct 28 2004 : 3:48PM
I've heard of it, but you're the first person I "know" to experience it.

I recognized the disk from experience.

Got a few of those floating around myself.

Ah, but some days I pine for the good old days of the 98 OEM Preload floppy and a CD-R of 98 SE CD...just walk away.

98SE was my favorite; know why? You could take a hard drive out of a PC, put it in another PC, boot it up and 98 would go "Holy shit! Look, new stuff! New motherboard, new controllers, hell, look at all this new stuff, hang on while I load it up" -- and long as you had the drivers for the rest, man, you were golden .

The Dell I'm manning at this moment has bombed TWICE on the XP SP2 load (can't FIND the FILE? WHAT???

It's right where you extracted it -- look I can SEE THE MOTHERFUCKER, there it is- RETRY RETRY RETRY

BANG BANG BANG -- [throw things] - ARRRRRGGGGGGHHHH!!!!),

...and I refuse to reload it. It's doing some serious flaky shit now. Won't burn CDs any more, for one thing.

Browses fine, though, obviously.

Break time over. *SIGH* Glad to hear you're getting a replacement.

Did you say Russians?? I bet their diabolical plan is to get CDs to explode so they can get the drives and load them up with stolen Iraqi explosives and ship 'em back to Dell to sabotage our factories and ...

Redish All-Star Supporter
Poetic Moderator

Long and Cursive road to the Ivory Pagoda in the province of Loraine
4076 Posts
12/03
Posted - Oct 28 2004 : 3:51PM
I once had an old Soundblaster cd-rom drive blow up on me. I was standing right next to it when it happened. I jumped about three feet in the air. Didn't have any shrapnel, but there was smoke and a burning smell. This is the first time I have heard it happening to someone else.

Glad none were hurt in the making of the CD. Definitely take Kperv advice and move the tower to underneath the desk or in a cabinet. you can always buy a cheap fan at Wal-Mart and blow air towards the tower for more cooling.

oatmeal
Meat Popsicle

Seeking Beauty
1738 Posts
8/04
Posted - Oct 28 2004 : 4:17PM
The drive is already under the desk. I can understand how it would scare the crap out of you, it would be so unexpected. Good visual too

SP2 didn't install properly for you? PCWorld has an article about that this month and how 75% installed it correctly and the rest had minor to major problems. They said Zone Alarm caused a fair amount of problems, particularly older versions. Spyware caused a few problems too, get Spybot - Search & Destroy

I've always found XP to be pretty good if you have a legal copy. I gave my old PC with the pirated stuff away so someone else can have the headache of pre SP1 XP. That's right, I'm legit... 2 legit 2 quit. Still, Microsoft should lower the price on XP.

The company I'm pissed with now is Symantec. They tried to chisel me out of a rebate. I had to lay Kami beating on them (actually no, I sent one polite email and they changed their stance)

cobalt60
Knuckle Dragger

2046 Posts
2/03
Posted - Oct 28 2004 : 4:56PM
Bah, yeah, this one's running a retail CD install of activated XP Pro.

Where I screwed up, I think, is letting Automatic Updates do it instead of installing it from the CD I got in my MSDN subscription. It was in the car!

It installed on my laptop swimmingly.

I actually scan for spyware fairly regularly with Spybot and Adaware and Agnitum Tauscan. I've got CA eTrust on the office network and I'm thinking about ordering their new security "whatchamacallit" suite since they bought PestPatrol.

I think I'll try loading SP2 off the CD before I go formatting anything. Ye gads, a reload on this system would take two days!

GaySatyr
Senior Member

Half dirty ol' man; half horny ol' goat!
1684 Posts
10/00
Posted - Oct 28 2004 : 5:00PM
I've had a CD explode in two different drives now, one a Teac (4 hex ), the other a LiteOn (48X). In both cases, the CD that exploded was one that was both older and well used. I'm guessing that some minor flaw or crack in each CD was exacerbated by the high rotational speed of the drive. In both cases, I ended up replacing the drive -- to much microscopic grunge inside.

~ GaySatyr (ABB)

oatmeal
Meat Popsicle

Seeking Beauty
1738 Posts
8/04
Posted - Oct 28 2004 : 6:43PM
I hear ya, it's a digital creampie in there.
oatmeal
Meat Popsicle

Seeking Beauty
1738 Posts
8/04
Posted - Oct 28 2004 : 6:44PM
I may redo my laptop just because. Had any problems reinstalling with product activation on XP?
 
cobalt60
Knuckle Dragger

2046 Posts
2/03
Posted - Oct 28 2004 : 8:28PM
Not yet. I've avoided reloads on anything that requires activation, thus far. I'm getting lazy in my dotage.
oatmeal
Meat Popsicle

Seeking Beauty
1738 Posts
8/04
Posted - Oct 28 2004 : 8:37PM
I best look up some FACK (FAQ) information then.... now back to our regularly scheduled porn
PL
Senior Member

God hates us all, you know it's true, God hates this place. - Slayer
1726 Posts
10/03
Posted - Oct 28 2004 : 11:11PM
I work on computers all the time and haven't had any problems re-activating Windows XP (even the ones with the new SP2 integrated). I have had a few problems re-activating some Symantec products, but with a quick call and an hour wait time, your back in business.

Depending on how bad the comp is you may want to think about just using the system restore - well depending on far it will take ya back in time too....

Anyway I digress...

oatmeal
Meat Popsicle

Seeking Beauty
1738 Posts
8/04
Posted - Oct 29 2004 : 8:22AM
I figured system restore was going to waste disk space and run extra services so I turned it off.

I've had this laptop since April 2002 and have not rebuilt it yet. It runs well but a fresh build would probably help.

oh, yeah, you just reminded me that I'd have to reactivate Norton Internet Security 2004. That would be a pain. Reconsidering...

oatmeal
Meat Popsicle

Seeking Beauty
1738 Posts
8/04
Posted - Oct 29 2004 : 11:04PM
The replacement drive arrived today. That was fast, from India () to Canada in 24 hours. Too bad the techie didn't write the apartment number on the delivery package so they could have delivered it to my door.
jamesn
Senior Member

Cambridge, MA
750 Posts
1/04
Posted - Oct 30 2004 : 2:10PM
a common 52x drive pushes the physical limits of the disc about as far as they can go. they CAN certainly make drives faster-but the 2 i can think of from kenwood and yamaha are no longer being produced. it happens sometimes
oatmeal
Meat Popsicle

Seeking Beauty
1738 Posts
8/04
Posted - Oct 31 2004 : 12:21AM
they should design a 52X DVD drive that spins with the disc outside the case. I'd love to use it to slice sandwich meats.
CJNeverWinter
Member

93 Posts
10/04
Posted - Oct 31 2004 : 12:43PM
never had this problem. I have seen it happen thought. its a pain in the ass to try and get all the pieces of the cd out of the cd drive.

Peace be the Journey




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