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GaySatyr
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Posted - Feb 1 2002 : 5:07AM
As Falcon Studios begins flooding the market with DVD versions of their videos, BE WARNED: A LIST OF CENSORED FALCON VIDEOS !!! Never mind that you are being charged ultra-premium prices for censored product from ALL retail & mail-order vendors except Falcon itself !!! Highway robbery!
Please see also:
Matt Sterling's Huge Video classics
Questions about Falcon Videos
AVN's 100 Greatest Gay Videos + some more

NOTE: This list was updated as of the date last edited. Not all of these titles have been released on DVD at this time (and I may have missed one or two), but they are on their way . . .

    Falcon International Collection
  • FIC 018 - Red Hot

  • Falcon Studios
  • FVP 001 - The Other Side of Aspen 1

  • FVP 011 - Workmen's Compensation

  • FVP 017 - I Want More

  • FVP 022 - PornStud

  • FVP 034 - Winner Takes All

  • FVP 042 - Open Season

  • FVP 043 - Fist Full

  • FVP 044 - Super Jock

  • FVP 045 - Winner's Way

  • FVP 048 - Spring Break

  • FVP 050 - Giant Splash Shots 2

  • FVP 052 - In Your Wildest Dreams

  • FVP 060 - Touch Me

  • FVP 065 - Deep (In Hot Water)

  • FVP 068 - Private Workout

  • FVP 069 - Big Bang

  • FVP 075 - The Abduction

  • FVP 077 - Overload

  • FVP 078 - Down Home

  • FVP 079 - Shadows in the Night

  • FVP 082 - Grand Prize

  • FVP 085 - Full Length

  • FVP 088 - The Abduction 2, Conflict

  • FVP 089 - The Abduction 3, Redemption

  • FVP 091 - Summer Fever

  • FVP 093 - Workin' Stiff

  • FVP 095 - Flashpoint - Hot as Hell

  • FVP 099 - The Other Side of Aspen 3

  • FVP 100 - The Other Side of Aspen 4

  • FVP 103 - Download

  • FVP 104 - Driven - No Turning Back

  • FVP 105 - Code of Conduct 1, Stripped

  • FVP 106 - Code of Conduct 2, Deliverance

  • FVP 108 - Heatwave

  • FVP 115 - Red Alert

  • FVP 117 - The Big Thrill

  • FVP 119 - Fever

  • FVP 120 - French Connections 1: Temptation

  • FVP 121 - French Connections 2: Conquest

  • FVP 122 - Betrayed

  • FVP 123 - In Deep, Miles To Go

  • FVP 124 - Sting - A Taste for Leather

  • FVP 125 - Hot Wired

  • FVP 129 - No Way Out

  • FVP 130 - Snap Shots

  • FVP 136 - Bounce

  • FVP 139 - The Other Side of Aspen 5

  • FVP 141 - Splash Shots 3: To the Hilt

  • FVP 142 - The Dark Side

  • Falcon / Hot Hand Productions
  • HVP 001 - Ass on the Line

  • HVP 002 - Ass Wide Open

  • HVP 003 - Up Your Alley 1: Pitchin' In

  • HVP 004 - Up Your Alley 2: Takin' Charge

  • Falcon / Jocks Studios
  • JVP 042 - Someone's Watching

  • JVP 068 - Big as They Come 2

  • JVP 077 - The Player

  • JVP 085 - Soaked

  • JVP 089 - Stock - Sentenced

  • JVP 090 - Stock - Released

  • JVP 097 - Steal the Night

  • JVP 099 - Convictions 1

  • JVP 100 - Convictions 2

  • JVP 101 - Sprung

  • JVP 102 - Eye Contact

  • JVP 103 - Plugged In

  • JVP 106 - Big as They Come 3

  • JVP 111 - Deception, Part 1

  • JVP 112 - Deception, Part 2

  • Falcon / Mustang Studios
  • MVP 002 - Something Dirty

  • MVP 022 - Coming Together

  • MVP 027 - Hot Ticket

  • MVP 032 - Night Watch

  • MVP 035 - Receiving End

  • MVP 050 - The Taking of Jake

  • MVP 051 - Down On Me

  • MVP 063 - Shock 1

  • MVP 064 - Shock 2
  • ==============================
    NOTE: Here is the list in alphabetical order:
    ==============================

  • The Abduction (FVP 075)

  • The Abduction 2, Conflict (FVP 088)

  • The Abduction 3, Redemption (FVP 089)

  • Ass on the Line (HVP 001)

  • Ass Wide Open (HVP 002)

  • Betrayed (FVP 122)

  • Big as They Come 2 (JVP 068)

  • Big as They Come 3 (JVP 106)

  • Big Bang (FVP 069)

  • The Big Thrill (FVP 117)

  • Bounce (FVP 136)

  • Code of Conduct 1, Stripped (FVP 105)

  • Code of Conduct 2, Deliverance (FVP 106)

  • Coming Together (MVP 022)

  • Convictions 1 (JVP 099)

  • Convictions 2 (JVP 100)

  • The Dark Side (FVP 142)

  • Deception, Part 1 (JVP 111)

  • Deception, Part 2 (JVP 112)

  • Deep (In Hot Water) (FVP 065)

  • Down Home (FVP 078)

  • Down On Me (MVP 051)

  • Download (FVP 103)

  • Driven - No Turning Back (FVP 104)

  • Eye Contact (JVP 102)

  • Fever (FVP 119)

  • Fist Full (FVP 043)

  • Flashpoint - Hot as Hell (FVP 095)

  • French Connections 1: Temptation (FVP 120)

  • French Connections 2: Conquest (FVP 121)

  • Full Length (FVP 085)

  • Giant Splash Shots 2 (FVP 050)

  • Grand Prize (FVP 082)

  • Heatwave (FVP 108)

  • Hot Ticket (MVP 027)

  • Hot Wired (FVP 125)

  • I Want More (FVP 017)

  • In Deep, Miles To Go (FVP 123)

  • In Your Wildest Dreams (FVP 052)

  • Night Watch (MVP 032)

  • No Way Out (FVP 129)

  • Open Season (FVP 042)

  • The Other Side of Aspen 1 (FVP 001)

  • The Other Side of Aspen 3 (FVP 099)

  • The Other Side of Aspen 4 (FVP 100)

  • The Other Side of Aspen 5 (FVP 139)

  • Overload (FVP 077)

  • The Player (JVP 077)

  • Plugged In (JVP 103)

  • PornStud (FVP 022)

  • Private Workout (FVP 068)

  • Receiving End (MVP 035)

  • Red Alert (FVP 115)

  • Red Hot (FIC 018)

  • Shadows in the Night (FVP 079)

  • Shock 1 (MVP 063)

  • Shock 2 (MVP 064)

  • Snap Shots (FVP 130)

  • Soaked (JVP 085)

  • Someone's Watching (JVP 042)

  • Something Dirty (MVP 002)

  • Splash Shots 3: To the Hilt (FVP 141)

  • Spring Break (FVP 048)

  • Sprung (JVP 101)

  • Steal the Night (JVP 097)

  • Sting - A Taste for Leather (FVP 124)

  • StockReleased (JVP 090)

  • StockSentenced (JVP 089)

  • Summer Fever (FVP 091)

  • Super Jock (FVP 044)

  • The Taking of Jake (MVP 050)

  • Touch Me (FVP 060)

  • Up Your Alley 1: Pitchin' In (HVP 003)

  • Up Your Alley 2: Takin' Charge (HVP 004)

  • Winner Takes All (FVP 034)

  • Winner's Way (FVP 045)

  • Workin' Stiff (FVP 093)

  • Workmen's Compensation (FVP 011)

NOTE: This list was updated as of the date last edited.

~ GaySatyr

Edited by - GaySatyr on Jul 19 2002

BIGmike
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Posted - Jun 1 2002 : 9:40AM
I still don't get it.

Gay studios can release uncut versions of their films (to certain areas), directly, for a price way over what straight studios charge.

Retailers get the films that are censored and charge the same high prices.

I've only seen two gay titles in my life and can not imagine paying anywhere between $50 to $80 for every title that is released.


---BIGmike, over and out!---

jackjock
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Posted - Jun 11 2002 : 8:03PM
Falcon MANDATES the retail prices on All its products
GaySatyr
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Posted - Jun 11 2002 : 8:37PM
It sure tries - however, it offers special buys to retailers from time to time and retailers often don't go by Falcon's suggested prices. Plus, retailers, especially on-line retailers, have sales. By shopping very carefully and taking advantage of the system, you can find Falcon titles for $35~40 - but only a few 0f them at a time - and quite possibly, not the ones you most wanted. You also need to decide if the censored material on many of Falcon's titles is important to you.

~ GaySatyr

superfly skywarrior
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Posted - Jun 20 2002 : 1:15AM
spring break was one of the first gay movies i saw. i used to have an uncensored vhs copy of it with the cradel fisting scene(which i personaly found a bit much). but its a great film and i'd love to get a copy on dvd. so i'm assuming the only thing cut from that film would be the cradle scene?
 
GaySatyr
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Posted - Jun 20 2002 : 1:32AM
Probably, but I can't answer you for sure.

Falcon often censors anything to do water sports, enemas and anal insertion of anything other than normal dildos &, of course, cocks.

~ GaySatyr

borobabe
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Posted - Aug 7 2002 : 10:05AM
GaySatyr
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Posted - Aug 7 2002 : 10:27AM
There is the argument that some acts are illegal based on community standards in many parts of the United States. Most studios don't film such acts. Falcon makes a big deal of producing some of their videos with fisting and water sports, advertising that the uncensored version is available only by purchasing directly from them at very high prices - it's more money in their pockets. In most cases, the missing material from the censored version makes no difference whatsoever to the storyline. What is really annoying is that sometimes Falcon shows the censored act blacked-out so that it is painfully obvious that something is missing. If the edits were such that the missing material made no difference, it wouldn't be a big deal.

~ GaySatyr

Edited by - GaySatyr on Aug 7 2002

joeblow69
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Posted - Aug 7 2002 : 9:34PM
I just noticed something really weird.

XRENTDVD is selling a copy of Falcon's Ass on the Line , which is part of Falcon's new line, Hot Hand Productions. From what I understand, it's a fisting line, so it should be safe to say that Ass on the Line is primarly a fisting video.

BUT, does this mean that the XRENTDVD version has all the fisting edited out? That sure would be something, eh? A fisting video without the fisting?

GaySatyr
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Posted - Aug 7 2002 : 11:29PM
I can't answer you. Falcon lists the series as having both censored and uncensored (sold only directly by the studio) versions. So, I guess that is exactly what it is: a fisting video without any fisting!

~ GaySatyr

Chillin
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San Diego
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9/01
Posted - Aug 8 2002 : 12:14AM
Maybe this will answer the question. I bought Fallen Angel 3 from XRent, and here is an excerpt from the caption on XRent:

"There was so much great sex footage that, using only the very hottest of the hours of film shot, we ended up with a 3-hour, non-stop action video!"..."This is the kind of hard-edged action you've been waiting for: Fisting, un-relenting flogging, bondage, torture, gang-bangs, sweaty fucks and throat-choking suck sessions!"

Of course, that wasn't what I got...I should have looked at the picture, as it says, "Over 2 hours...."...and according to your review of the movie, the uncensored version is 2 disks -- this one, of course, was 1 disk.

Chillin..

Evil_Rip
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Posted - Aug 8 2002 : 2:16AM
"Yeah stick your fist in my ass" EDIt/CUt / EDit

"wow that was great tony, you're hands sure are big"


LOL...

joeblow69
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Posted - Aug 21 2002 : 9:47PM
Here's some interesting information:

I just got my copy of Plugged In from the big FiveStarDVD sale ($31.99!) and not only does it seem like a good movie, but I think it may have been the uncensored version! There's a part in scene 3 where Jackson Price gets a screwdriver shoved up is lubey ass! Isn't that something that would normally get censored in a non-Falcon version? I guess it's possible that they could have edited out something else (possibly fisting ... they were wearing gloves afterall), but there were no glaring cuts, or big black boxes covering the action. Not even a mention anywhere to buy the full uncensored version at FalconStudios.com.

Maybe FiveStar is starting to get unedited versions of Falcon flicks now? That doesn't see right. Maybe its just a goof up on Falcon's part.

In any case, I think I'm officially in love with Leo Bramm. What a hunk! And he even bottoms in his scene!

Edited by - joeblow69 on Aug 22 2002

GaySatyr
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Posted - Aug 22 2002 : 12:56AM
I'm amazed the screw driver scene was included. I was under the impression that there is fisting in Plugged In (as the gloved hands would indicate) but I could be wrong. At least, if it is the edited version, Falcon has cleaned up its act, leaving out the cheesy black-outs and ads for the uncut version.

It would be really nice to know the whole story here.

~ GaySatyr

joeblow69
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Posted - Aug 24 2002 : 7:06PM
I just noticed something else that may explain things with Plugged In... on the cover of the DVD, it says: Director's Cut. I'm pretty sure that means this is the uncut version. I haven't been able to find any other scans of the DVD cover online, but the other VHS covers I've seen (at non-falcon stores) don't say Director's Cut on them.

I wonder how Five Star got a hold of the Director's cut?


I just noticed something else, too! At Fivestar, their images for the DVDs Red Hot and Hot Wired both say director's cut as well! strange....

Edited by - joeblow69 on Aug 24 2002

 
ILMR
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Posted - Aug 25 2002 : 12:28AM
Does Falcon reduce price on catalog titles?
GaySatyr
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Posted - Aug 25 2002 : 12:57AM
Falcon has some of the worst prices in all of gay-porndom. Their list prices are often in the $80~90 range for a video that is sometimes as short as 75 minutes. However, very few people pay list prices for Falcon videos. Falcon does have what they call a membership club that entitles members to get a discount, usually 10%, off their list prices; however, the membership costs $25 per month and the discount is not worth a hill of beans - at least in my opinion. Plus, I'm told that Falcon's membership website really isn't worth the money (based on the opinions of several people I know - I've never joined Falcon's membership website so I can't validate their opinion).

By the time Falcon titles get distributed through normal retail channels and are being sold over the internet via mailorder sites like the ones represented here on ADT, their prices are in the $30~50 range, much more reasonable. And, by shopping carefully and using coupons and ADT's KickBack dollars, it is possible to knock those prices lower by 10~20%, making Falcon titles down-right affordable.

The only remaining problem is that Falcon often edits titles for general release by removing certain scenes involving water sports, enemas and insertion of objects other than dildos into the anus, including fisting. To get the uncut versions of these particular videos, you are usually forced to buy directly from Falcon and pay their high prices. Then again, these scenes may not interest you at all, making Falcon's censorship a blessing in disguise.

I created this thread in an attempt to keep a current list of the video titles that Falcon has censored for general release. That way, you will know what you are getting if you order from other sources.

~ GaySatyr

Pornophile
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Posted - Aug 25 2002 : 1:55AM
I purchased "Hot Wired" from Fivestar. The version I received is the uncensored version. It says "Director's Cut" on the front and back of the keepcase and on the disk itself.

There is a very graphic fisting scene between Addison Scott and Johnny Rider. Johnny Rider also takes up some very large dildos. There were no black bars anywhere on this DVD.

How did Fivestar get uncensored versions?

GaySatyr
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Posted - Aug 25 2002 : 3:05AM
I have no idea; it has to be a mistake on Falcon's part! However, I intend to buy several Falcon titles from FiveStar taking advantage of their kickback dollar redemption special and their special Falcon prices! No way I can pass up such a great deal.

~ GaySatyr

joeblow69
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Posted - Aug 25 2002 : 10:47AM
GaySatyr,

Which ones are you planning on getting? I was thinking of picking up a few more from Five Star, but none of the titles they have left at $31.99 are poppin out at me. I almost got Hard Wired, until I read the review at Radvideo. They make it sound like the scenes are just a bunch of leftovers.

(btw, my review of Plugged In is up. I really liked it! too bad it's now sold out!

GaySatyr
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Posted - Aug 25 2002 : 11:41AM
Eye Contact, Heaven Sent (I like Latinos), Plugged In (I'll wait for the back-order), Red Hot & Serviced. ~ GS
GaySatyr
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Posted - Sep 1 2002 : 8:48PM
Falcon/Jocks' <iEye Contact </i JVP-102 - 4, maybe 4.5 stars
  • The General Release edition is a very hot video, consisting of four scenes with generally really good chemistry between/among partners. The third scene, in spite of some serious double dildo work (into one ass), is the weakest of the four.
  • The Director's Cut edition adds self-fisting as well as partner-fisting to the third scene - it is still the weakest of the four scenes with some seriuous lack of wood at times. Unless fisting is your thing, don't waste the extra money.
Falcon International's <iRed Hot </i FIC-018 - possibly 4 stars
  • The General Release edition is good but the sex is more simmering slowly than boiling over with the possible exception of the scene between Vidanov and coverboy Volt which easily justifies the video's title.
  • The Director's Cut edition adds about 5 minutes of Vidanov with his ass cheeks spread, inserting the tip of a shower hose, filling himself with water and then expelling it slowly. There is no sexual heat here whatsoever. However, the heat rises to boiling when Vidanov tells Volt that he is clean, "Inside and out," and their sex scene begins. Again, unless an emotionless and sexless shower enema scene is your bag, don't buy Falcon's bull - the only extra is the enema.

~ GaySatyr
joeblow69
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Posted - Sep 7 2002 : 2:17PM
Wow, we're starting to get some really great prices on Falcon DVDs all of a sudden. GayDVDNow has 3 for $27.77:

Iron Will and
Basic Plumbing 2
Eye Contact (thanks to didier for finding this one... this is probably the censored version, btw. Looks like Fivestar has the Director's cut for $39.99)

didier
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8/02
Posted - Sep 18 2002 : 4:31AM
Just received Eye Contact from AdultDVDNow and it is the Director's Cut. Though this is not on the scanned pic on their web site, both the cover and the disc mention "Director's Cut". A $12 saving from FiveStar.
didier
Chillin
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Posted - Sep 18 2002 : 10:54AM
...and you're gonna tell us what you think of it, right?

Chillin..

 
joeblow69
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Posted - Sep 18 2002 : 9:08PM
HOly crap! That's a great deal! Falcon is selling the same movie for $79.50! I wonder what the deal is... that's 2 stores now selling Falcon director's cut DVDs.
GBright
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Posted - Dec 11 2003 : 11:34PM
The average cost of a straight DVD or VHS sex tape is now 3 for $9.95. The average cost of a gay title is $59.95. The copyright notices are equally absurd. You can show a straight movie to an audience, as long as you receive no monetary compensation. You must always pay a royalty for gay.

Falcon pays "adult Male film models up to $1500 compensation". That's nice considering the averag profit is around $2 Million, that's right $2,000,000. Straight men make a percentage of the movie, usually around 2%.

It takes around 3 months to make a gay film, and depending on number of scenes, a week to film a straight.

on and on and on and on...

Go buy some insurance instead, better return for your....

gagged99
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Posted - Jan 14 2004 : 12:31AM
Hi
I was wondering if anyone knew what was different between the dvd Sprung (jocks jvp-101) and the directors cut, specifically. There is a scene where addison scott puts "a bandanna in his ass, pulling it out and stuffing it into the blond boy's mouth" and i was wondering if that was in the regular release or not. Also, anyone who has seen the movie, is it any good?
GaySatyr
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Posted - Jan 14 2004 : 1:25AM
I have the director's cut - I suspect the differences are these (by scene):
  1. Alec Martinez gets fucked with a billy club

  2. the scene you describe - Matt Skylar gets stuffed and then gagged with a red bandana

  3. pretty normal if you can overlook the close-ups of razor burn and pimples on Caesar's ass a he gets plowed

  4. the obligatory run-of-the-mill orgy scene - not one of LaRue's better group efforts
  5. I'm guessing that both scene 1 and 2 are censored a bit but I doubt you really miss much - cutting those parts probably reduces the video's running time by about 3 minutes.

    The guys are gorgeous (typical Falcon) and the cocks are huge. The 1st scene was great - and not because of the billy stick - chemistry among the three participants was excellent. I'd rate it 4-1/2 stars but the video, as a whole, only 3 or maybe 3-1/2. The jail guard, convict, and police costumes were a good idea but not really very convincing. Continuity sucks. Towels to protect a couch magically appear and disappear only to reappear in greater numbers. Considering the couch, cum stains would have been an improvement.

    I suspect the real truth is that Sprung was LaRue's excuse to see some cock one weekend and get paid for it rather than having to shell it out - oops, she did have to shell it out - my bad!

    ~ GaySatyr

gagged99
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Posted - Jan 14 2004 : 1:35AM
wow! thanks for the fast reply!!
well i really wanted the bandana scene so if u think it is in the directors cut i guess i will get that one... do you know of anyway/any place i can get it cheaper than directly from the tla or the falcon/jocks site?
GaySatyr
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Posted - Jan 14 2004 : 2:20AM
Not off-hand. Check with some of the vendors who have had Falcon director's cut titles in the past (FiveStar & AdultDVDNow). Plus, several times a year, Falcon has half-price (or greater) sales on some of its titles for members only, making it worth buying the 2-week trial membership, placing an order, and then resigning the membership. I went on a Jocks & Mustang shopping spree the week before Christmas: Cost me $16 to join and I ordered 23 titles on DVD (13 of them director's cut versions) at $25 each plus free shipping!

If I were you, I'd put Sprung on my long-term list and wait for a great deal rather than buying it outright. It really isn't worth Falcon's normal asking price. Chi Chi LaRue has done some good work in her career but this is clearly not her best.

~ GaySatyr

gagged99
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Posted - Jan 14 2004 : 2:33AM
Thanks for the advice, I'll probably do that...
I just wanted to ask (Sorry to keep pestering you!)
how to tell if it was the directors cut or not. I read that it says on the cover, but where would it be/would it be something obviously visible just by seeing the box cover?
they have sprung @ adultdvdnow, but im pretty sure thats not the directors cut version (based on the price...)
http://www.adultdvdnow.com/cat/u_product_detail.php?Pid=12368
thank you so much for all of your help, it is greatly appreciated! :)
GaySatyr
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Posted - Jan 14 2004 : 10:08AM
The only thing I can suggest is that you order by telephone rather than online and, while you have the person taking the order on the phone, ask which version it is. He or she may have to go look at the box. Director's Cut is clearly printed in small white type (dark background) on the cover directly beneath a white circle containing the letters "DVD" on the upper right-hand corner of the Sprung case cover.

As a general rule, this is one of two placements of the Director's Cut label, the other being directly beneath the "Jocks" (or "Mustang," or "Falcon," etc) brand label.

Each of the DVDs is also clearly tagged as being the Director's Cut version as well.

Let me again point out that I really do not know what has been cut from the general release version of the video; however, I would suspect that both the billy club and the bandana anal insertions are likely candidates.

~ GaySatyr

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