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henry.black
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73 Posts
6/06
Posted - Apr 24 2007 : 9:43AM
Why all these ridiculous terminoly is used? Like sex positive etc.? Can you imagine referring to a man as being sex positive or non-sex positive?
The real problem is not sex. You either are positive about yourself or not.


Edited by - henry.black on 4/24/2007 11:09:47 AM

Ramsey
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Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Apr 24 2007 : 12:04PM
I actually thought the Violation of .... serie was feminist porn because it shows women can be as tough and rough as men when it comes to sex.
Thomas D C
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48 Posts
4/07
Posted - Apr 24 2007 : 2:59PM
I doubt that.
What about the prostitutes, some rich, doing it to revolt against their parents, or because they like sex off camera? Not in it just for the money.

Many wives and a few husbands do sex just for the money, but they are not persecuted by governments for it. 99.99% of people in the world do something or another just for money. The opinion that cleaning toilets or flipping burgers is better work than sex, would seem unnecessarily sex-negative to me.

In porn there are few condoms, compared with prostitution. The HIV tests in porn are optional, like they are in prostitution.
Prostitutes face the danger of being imprisoned by governments. The government is more threatening than Johns, so prostitutes hide from the government, and work in secrecy, which deprives them of protections enjoyed by the rest of us.

Edited by - Thomas D C on 4/24/2007 4:06:59 PM

Alexander Portnoy
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Sydnee Steele, Savanna Samson or None.
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Posted - Apr 24 2007 : 3:37PM
Feminists for the most part are not out to prove that they can be just as aggressive, as violent and as competitive as men. Rather they seek to bring about a more caring, more nurturing and more harmonious society.
 
the unknown pervert
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Posted - Apr 24 2007 : 4:55PM
Agreed, and on the subject of ridiculous terminalogy is there any term more over the top P.C. than heterosexualist?
Zartyr
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700 Posts
7/04
Posted - Apr 24 2007 : 6:46PM
Really?
Some feminists here praise some - I forgot which - matriarchial American Indian society for being a more caring, more nurturing, more peaceful and more harmonious society, e.g.
If you read the facts it turns out that this ideal society is in fact a warfaring society based on slavery.

In fact do a gender switch in the various texts of especially MacKinnon/Dworkin/Schwarzer/Solanas and it will turn out as the most anti-humanistic(misogynistic) pamphlets you have ever read.
If you are not faint of the heart replace female/women with A/aryan(s) and male/men with underling in these textsa and you will start to shudder.

Alexander Portnoy
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Sydnee Steele, Savanna Samson or None.
275 Posts
12/05
Posted - Apr 25 2007 : 7:15AM
Back in those days 'The Violation of...' series did huge numbers.

Edited by - alexander portnoy on 4/25/2007 7:22:27 AM

henry.black
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6/06
Posted - Apr 25 2007 : 2:19PM
I agree. When I think of nurture and care, I hardly think of feminism.

Edited by - henry.black on 4/25/2007 2:22:17 PM

Shagdog
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Houston
626 Posts
1/07
Posted - Apr 26 2007 : 4:25PM
That’s what I think of. My mom was strong, independent and smart, she didn’t take shit from anyone.

The feminist movement has many factions. Not one single group controls or dominates the rank and file feminist. And none speaks for women as a group.

Women have been very good at separating the issues, supporting the issues that make a real difference in their lives, and discarding the rest.

Most women just want to be treated fairly. They want help in raising their children. They don’t want to be beat up by husbands and boyfriends, they don’t want to have to suck cock to keep their jobs.

Women love men and love having sex with men. They just want to be loved and respected for it.

Thomas D C
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48 Posts
4/07
Posted - Apr 26 2007 : 4:56PM
Shagdog I agree with most of what you say. For the sake of discussion, though, a woman either respects herself or she doesn't. If women base their self-esteem on the opinions of males, it's submission to males that they willfully choose.
A lot of women do choose to marry for money and suck cock for money. just being honest.

Edited to add. I'm not looking down on women. I have eaten pussy just for money, I didn't feel oppressed, I felt glad I was doing that instead of doing something else for money.

Edited by - Thomas D C on 4/26/2007 5:10:54 PM

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