Nothing against new guys. As long as they got wood and can deliver a decent pop shot on a female's face they are welcome.

[Link]

There's got to be a compromise that will work for both men and women that doesn't involve expensive, scripted features. Can't the gonzo makers just pull the camera back a bit more, and maybe shoot some of the action from a 45-degree angle instead of straight up the performers' asses the whole time?

Think of all the money to be made by casting attractive men to give beautiful women good, hard and rough sex, and marketing it toward women , not couples. Take out an ad in Cosmo for crying out loud. Get single women buying porn. Think of all the disposable income a single woman with no kids has. And think about how much money she'd spend to see really hot guys fuck really hot girls.

Is the industry simply already rich enough? There's no need to develop a huge untapped consumer market because, well hell, everybody's got more wealth than they can handle? Or is it that the industry just doesn't give a damn what women think? Don't the pornographers want our money? It's like we're shouting into the wind, and if anybody hears us, we get immediately shouted back down. It's infuriating and it's unfair.

/rant

So, who were those new guys, again?

[Link]

Most of the new guys are quieter too, which is also a plus. Sometimes those old guys forget that the women are the real talent that most fans pay to see!

-PornoPunK

[Link]

I don't like young good-looking guys... They're posing in front of the mirror like that guy in American Psycho.

[Link]

they can t keep their wood, or they pop 3 times and have to wait til they get hard again every time.
they dont know what they re doing (positions, opening to the camera)

anyday i d rather work with Erik Everhard, or Steve Holmes for the 25th time than try out a newbie. at least i m sure i ll get fucked good and we will deliver a great scene together.

Edited by - melissalauren on 11/5/2005 12:56:42 PM

[Link]

And I hear what you're saying about not being able to track down these new guys. Most times the male cast aren't credited, especially if they're one-hit-wonders. Seems wrong to me. The most important star on any b/g set is The Cock. Nothing goes right if The Cock is having a bad day. There's always a man attached to The Cock, so I think he deserves some credit, even if he's new.

[Link]

here, here pagoda. more head to toe shots of male and female. i've had it with ultra close in-out shots. for all i know, from that shot, the girl could be anyone, not the particular hottie i paid to see.

i've always thought a 2nd cameraman might fill the head to toe requirement - almost a behind the scenes feel if the principal cameraman is in the frame. I LOVE THAT IDEA - same scene two cameras

[Link]

Edited by - pornopunk on 11/6/2005 2:50:11 AM

Edited by - Steph on 11/22/2005 12:56:47 PM

[Link]

Yes, I'm sure that every guy and his brother probably, at some point, has fantasized about being in porn, but it's not as easy as it look on screen. For instance, just look at the BTS footage from time to time. What looks like a 20-minute scene may sometimes take hours to shoot. Can any new guy straight off the street be that professional to keep wood for that long during repeated breaks in shooting and while he has a camera crew standing in front of him?

Also, as Isabel Ice also stated, not every girl in porn is resembling of supermodel. Some are average looking or straight-up fugly. Most guys only fantasize about screwing the hot porn stars. But what if you are asked to screw some chick you would never ordinarily be attracted to? This, in fact, is how many porn guys get their start, with the exception of the ones who just may be lucky or may happen to know someone who hooks them up with hot pussy right away. But for most guys, they have to start at the bottom (no pun intended), which is usually standard at any job.

Plus, I have to agree with Melissa. Most scenes that I see with the newest, younger guys are completely dead. Yes, the guy may look nice, but who wants to see a dead scene? Not me. For example, in the early films of Erik Everhard when he first started over at Anabolic/Diabolic, many of those scenes were so dull. It was like he was just some silent robotic dick there to do a job and nothing more. However, once he started more regularly working and becoming a "star," he began bringing more chemistry and intensity along with him, which is likely how he was able to arrive to where he is now in the porn world.

It takes work, but it also takes persistence. If porn companies just started hiring random new guys all the time who have not yet proven themselves, they would probably never get their films done. They need to go with guys who they know are reliable and can do the job well, and not take chances on some guy who just wants to fulfill a fantasy and brag to his buddies. Porn is, after all, still a business.

[Link]

Torrents of a Labia

[Link]

Do you believe they would know exactly how to get the best from the girls and males without years of experience?

Is new wine better than wine with years of aging?

Is Windows 95 as good as Windows XP?

Bottom line: Experience counts.

[Link]

Personally, I wouldn't want to see multitudes of new porn studs flooding the industry, even if it were possible. I tend to be loyal to the guys I like. I don't get bored watching the same man in 50 different scenes, because if he's any good, I'll see a slightly different side of that man with each individual girl. Little details and nuances make a difference for me. Unlike the girls, who are encouraged to pull more and more acrobatic or stomach-churning feats to retain viewer interest, the studs can be themselves in every scene and female viewers are happy if they like that stud's sexual personality. As long as he changes it up just enough to acknowledge that he's fucking an individual woman, and not a blow-up doll he fucks everyday, and he seems genuinely interested in pleasuring her, I'm satisfied. AND, I'm majorly impressed if he finds the time to work out and show some pride in his appearance, even if I rarely see anything more than his cock on my TV. At least I know he made some effort to look fit and sexy for the girls he works with. That makes a man attractive.

[Link]

Click here

I met him at the Kill Girl Kill 3 premiere party and he's intelligent and funny. He hasn't got a girlfriend either. He's happily playing the field.

[Link]

preston from bangbros fits that bill - big fan of his work

[Link]

Category 10: UNSUNG SWORDSMAN
RICK MASTERS
MR. PETE
KYLE STONE
WINNER: BRIAN SUREWOOD
MARK WOOD

[Link]

I welcome new-era guys, but are they performing naturally like the guys of old, or are they merely pill-poppers?

Dave

[Link]

that s why i love to work with the previous generation of performers (Mark davis, Steve Holmes,...) cause when they re fucking, they look into the girls's eyes, they talk to her, whisper in her ear, caress her... in short words, love her for the time the scene lasts.

[Link]

Obviously porn is fantasy and when you have some filthy pig banging the girl it’s a harsh reminder that’s its basically just prostitution.

[Link]

For me, porn is about expanding my fantasy base, and I like drop-dead-gorgeous guys in my fantasies. Steve and Mark are handsome men, but my fantasy man doesn't look like them.

Melissa, who would you say are those "few exceptions?" Who's the best-looking guy (in your opinion) that really connects with you during a scene?

Edited by - Pagoda on 11/9/2005 4:52:07 PM

[Link]

As long as he pays me for the female talent, location, make up artist, equipment, my time, gas money, food, etc. then I will give him a shot.

These newbies think they can get hired based on their confidence alone. No way am I letting one of those lame fucks ruin my scene and cost me a grand in expenses and kill fees because he could not keep his wood.

[Link]

but today is totally different. are there some guys who dont use anything to help them....sure...but its rare. There are so many companies and so many scenes available for guys who are good. I work 5-7 times a week, and I dont work nearly as much as at least 30 other guys in this business......can i do scenes without assistance...of course....but the 8th straight day of doing scenes kind of catches up to you. not to mention the fact that mark davis has worked for every company on the planet...i havent...so when he goes to a set, he knows what the surrounding are like....a new guy has no fucking idea what the scene is going to be like.....thats pressure.

i would also love to be one of the guys who owns their own lines so they can:

1. choose the girls they work with
2. work on days that they choose
3. can make their sets to their personal preferences

now, let me also say that the reason that those guys got their own lines is because they already made it though the business of working every day for years.

so in summary, taking a blue pill cant do anything to your scene but help.

[Link]

However... unfortunately one of the first things I panic about when I hear that a certain guy depends on Viagra nearly 100% of the time, I get afraid that he's going to have problems seeming into the girl during the scene (because he no longer NEEDS to), or that it is going to be nearly impossible for him to cum without having to jack off for 10 minutes. You, I was very thankful, did not have that difficulty.
You admit that you often don't need any pill-assistance. (I think that's my favorite new term of the day ) And, indeed, when you were with Dillan Lauren, I was very envious of the great ass-pounding you gave her. :)

I recently found out that Erik Everhard received his first booking from Jules Jordan by telling Jules that he did not want to be paid for the scenes, he'd just like his plane ticket to be paid for.
When I was performing, I felt very much as Melissa does: I preferred the guys that fucked me good. I especially preferred the good looking guys who could fuck me good, but as long as they were attractive to me on some level, and I enjoyed the sex with them, I has a happy person.

And to contribute more positively to this thread, here are some of my favorite new guys from the past 2-3 years:
Justin Slayer (duh!), Denis Marti, Scott Nails.
Even Manuel started only about 4 years ago, if I remember correctly.

Just looking at the nominations so far for Rog’s Rog Reviews Fan Favorites awards:
https://www.adultdvdtalk.com/forum/topic.dlt/topic_id=70616/forum_id=1/cat_id=1/70616.htm , there’s already a list of 40 great guys, most of them very, very good looking. And I’ve already sent in an email with about another 5 guys on it.

[Link]

Also great new guys (or relatively new) Scott Nails and Tommy Gunn with honorable mention to Jean Val Jean who is probably the best looking guy who has ever worked in porn (at least according to my wife). He came out of the gate rather weak and timid but he got progressively better then he disappeared for a while. Apparently he's back in action now.

I'd like to stop talking about dudes now. I'm beginning to feel like my drapes might clash with my sofa cushions and I desperately need to schedule a perm.

Quaze

[Link]