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vincevega
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131 Posts
11/02
Posted - Jul 14 2004 : 8:57PM
I think your going to see a decent dropoff in IE usage.

By TechWeb News

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The Mozilla Foundation on Tuesday set September as the release date for its free open-source Firefox browser.

Firefox, which has been collecting accolades from users and analysts -- especially as recommendations mount to switch from Microsoft's vulnerability-plagued Internet Explorer -- is currently in beta, but is shooting for final by Sept. 14, said Mozilla's Ben Goodger in a revised roadmap posted to the organization's site.

"While we may slip past this, we want to set that date so that it gives us a near term goal to target," Goodger wrote. A release candidate -- more than beta and a step closer to final -- will post next month, Goodger added.

Firefox is currently in beta version 0.9, which released last month, and runs on Windows, Linux, and Mac OS X platforms.

Em
Member

198 Posts
4/04
Posted - Jul 14 2004 : 11:10PM
As far as I am concerned, everything is better than IE, the coffin nail of the web.

Em

Cumwhipper
Senior Member

4050 Posts
3/04
Posted - Jul 14 2004 : 11:58PM
Great news.

I just made the switch from IE to Firefox v0.9.1, and I'm glad I did. Firefox is much more intuitive - love the tabbing feaures and builtin pop-up blocker (essential for surfingh porn sites!).

Harri Patel
Senior Member

#SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele
5110 Posts
3/03
Posted - Jul 15 2004 : 12:44AM
Questions for anyone using the current beta version:

1. The current versions of Netscape and the regular Mozilla have, to the left of the row of window tabs, a little icon that you can press to open a new tab. Firefox doesn't seem to have that, at least in default configuration. Is there a way to turn it on? I've found that you can add a button to open a new tab to one of the toolbars (above the row of tabs), but I'm used to having it where it is in Netscape.

2. Is the Download Manager not quite ready for primetime? I've found that when I right-click a link and choose to download whatever the thing is, the whole program locks up for maybe 10-15 seconds, then the Download Manager window finally opens. It takes its time about closing, too. I know that you can go into the options and choose not to have the Download Manager appear, but then you don't have any indication of how fast the thing is downloading, how much longer it's going to take, etc.

Hardware All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

Your other left
14594 Posts
3/02
Posted - Jul 15 2004 : 1:47AM
The tabs are pretty cool, but they're also pretty easy to do, I imagine. It shouldn't be too long before Microsoft implements them in IE.

This release seems a little slow at times, and the Java snap-in has some issues on Win 2K (not sure if XP has the same issues), but overall I'm pretty happy with it.

There is a "new tab" button that you can add, Harri. Go to View - Toolbars - Customize.

 
Coyote
Member

Daylight Savings Time, is it really Necessary?
972 Posts
3/04
Posted - Jul 15 2004 : 3:03AM
Since I myself switched not to long ago from IE because of major problems to Opra I'm a little new to this new browser but am beginning to like it. What exactly is firefox? I know it's a browser but it is better than Opra? Thanks and yes thank you for being patient with my ignorance!
ObiBong
Senior Member

1162 Posts
12/02
Posted - Jul 15 2004 : 3:23AM
It's awful. I went from .6 to .8, and now it annoys me every time I try to DL something (fortunately, I don't do much of that). It makes me want to downgrade, as .6 was doing great for me and pretty much lacked nothing that I need.
Em
Member

198 Posts
4/04
Posted - Jul 15 2004 : 6:55AM
Coyote,

Better? Oh no. Firefox is designed to look like IE5, and work like IE6. The only difference is that it has a standards-compliant engine inside. Whether it is better than Opera's or not is a favorite dispute amongst developers, but for an everyday user there difference is less than negligible.

Opera is a modern-generation browser, and having used it for years I still discover new features. It has a completely different approach to user interface, as well as functionality, than anything else. Many features that you have in Firefox add-ons (called extensions) were copied from this browser. I could go on for weeks on end, so I'll shut up now.

Bottom line is that as long as you stay away from IE, you are more than fine. Who knows whether it will take you 31 days to become an Opera lover, or fewer?

:]

Em

Coyote
Member

Daylight Savings Time, is it really Necessary?
972 Posts
3/04
Posted - Jul 15 2004 : 8:47PM
Ah, sounds good to me. I really think Microsoft needs to either put more effort into IE or just dump it. It's really not fair to everyday users to have to worry about security issues. Not to mention a lot of people I know have no idea what any of these other browsers are (just as I did a month or so ago).
Bill All-Star Supporter
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5334 Posts
6/00
Posted - Jul 15 2004 : 9:17PM
It probably doesn't matter how much effort they put into it, because as long as it maintains even close to the level of usage (I was going to write popularity, but that would imply that people like it, rather than just use it) that it currently enjoys, IE will continue to be the target of people who want to do damage.

Even if another browser had the same number of ways that it could be exploited, it's unlikely that it ever would be, because there's no point exploiting a flaw in software that only a small number of people use.

cykedout
Member

Ireland
245 Posts
8/00
Posted - Jul 19 2004 : 12:16AM
I've always hated IE. Partly because of it's look, partly because it's Microsoft, even for other reasons I can't quite remember. Maybe it's just on principle.


Because it's the first browser I really used, in college many years ago, I really like Netscape which is based on the Mozilla model. The newest incarnation Version 7.1 that I have, I'm quite happy with. I like the tabbed look and feel, the pop-up blocker, etc. alot more than the any of the functionality of IE. My only gripe is that Netscape/Mozilla doesn't seem to deal with Java heavy sites very well or just averagely. This is mainly IE and it's history's fault, in my opinion. Alot of sites are/were written for IE only and for those of us who prefer to use other browsers, that sucks!


I guess I'm just venting my emotions against Microsoft's browser and what it has done to the rest of the browser world, but I just thought I'd put my two cents in.


......Incidentally, will Firefox be any major improvement or be vastly different from Netscape, etc?? Any info would be useful, or I'll probably just stick with my current browser. Thanks.


Edited by - cykedout on 7/19/2004 12:18:08 AM

jamesn
Senior Member

Cambridge, MA
750 Posts
1/04
Posted - Jul 19 2004 : 12:59AM
Obi, I agree with firefox regressing with .8, check out k-meleon for something in keeping with what firefox was originally designed to be-the lightest gui possible based on gecko. you can also install .92 and transfer the engine files to .6 then uninstall it. also, firefox defaults terrible stuff, change the # of http connects and pipelining stuff to at least double the originals if you're on broadband.

i refuse to pay for opera, i've seen enough of the adware version to admit it's a good product, but it needs to be more than good to price itself with no consideration to the competition.

Joey Starr
Senior Member

Still wanking after all these years.
8082 Posts
10/00
Posted - Jul 19 2004 : 7:02AM
Speaking of browsers does anyone use Safari (Mac)?

I was quite happy with it at first (fast and reliable) but more recenlty had a number of crashes, not as stable as I first thought...

Anyway it's always nice to have an alternative if Firefox has a Mac OS X version.

Kperv
The Cuddler

*struck
(She slipped)

1818 Posts
1/04
Posted - Jul 19 2004 : 1:55PM
I'm currently using Konqueror. I believe Safari is built on Konqueror/KDE's KHTML component.
It never crashes and rarely has any major rendering problems.
FireFox still has the edge though.
Harri Patel
Senior Member

#SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele
5110 Posts
3/03
Posted - Jul 19 2004 : 2:06PM
From the standpoint of just using the program, no, not really.

Firefox is just the browser, so the download isn't very big, and when you install it, it copies all of your Netscape bookmarks; therefore it's pretty easy to see for yourself if there is anything about it that would make you want to switch.

 
EL_
Member

Browsing with Mouse Gestures
193 Posts
7/04
Posted - Jul 21 2004 : 1:59AM
If someone makes a better program like firefox then M$ will copy it sooner or later.



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